[Big Z]

Originally Posted by redeadening

I really enjoyed the Orton vs Taker series. Both men were in the top of their game in terms of workrate. But the match I enjoyed most was the Wrestlemania 21. I was tense the entire match. Psychology was awesome. And when Orton reversed the chokeslam into the RKO, I almost had a heart attack. The HIAC match too was very enjoyable.

Thanks for the reccomendations sterling. I guess I'll check all of them out. I'll also be getting the Elimination Chamber set. BTW, whats this I heard about a 'Best of RAW Yr 1 and 2' DVD?

http://www.silvervision.co.uk/produc...D-4-Discs.html .

[Forever Unchained]

I do like the Undertaker but his series with Orton just did nothing for me really. The chokeslam reversal into RKO was a great move the first time but each time after that not so much...


I'd say 1997 might be Undertaker's best year.

• One excellent match with HBK as well as the Ground Zero match
• Two excellent matches with Bret Hart
• Two fine matches with Vader
• A great match with Mankind
• He wins the strap
• The Final Four

... oh and he wasn't crippled!

[Big Z]

1997 Undertaker was awesome as hell, but I do love his 2002 and 2007 as well (and most of his other years, good or bad ). 2002 more from a character standpoint (Big Evil heel run was epic) and 2007 from a match quality standpoint (he had MULTIPLE great matches with Batista. BATISTA).

[JOAL.com]

Lets face it, even when facing Warrior, the Undertaker fucking ruled.

[Forever Unchained]

Originally Posted by KingCal

1997 Undertaker was awesome as hell, but I do love his 2002 and 2007 as well (and most of his other years, good or bad ). 2002 more from a character standpoint (Big Evil heel run was epic) and 2007 from a match quality standpoint (he had MULTIPLE great matches with Batista. BATISTA).

Nah 2002 wasn't a great year. When he turned heel and battered the crap out of Rob Van Dam that was great but he just didn't have anyone else to work with after that. His match Austin @ Backlash was poor I thought.

Originally Posted by redeadening

Lets face it, even when facing Warrior, the Undertaker fucking ruled.

Eh nope I gotta disagree. Undertaker matches up until his series with Mankind weren't very good imo. Average to okay but he did not rule. Urgh.. Kamala, El Gigante, King Kong Bundy, Kama, Mabel...

C'mon, the man did not rule until Mankind!



Has anyone seen all of the Undertaker/Kurt Angle matches recently? I'd seen the earlier two from 2000 but not since then. I think they had two Smackdown matches which I haven't seen. Just wondering what they're like compared to the No Way Out match?

[Big Z]

After RVD he had nobody to work with? Rock? Flair? Hardy? HHH (shit matches, but he was a big babyface to work with)? Hogan (see HHH)? Austin? Angle?

Then when he ran through the babyfaces, he turned babyface and had a great feud with Lesnar, giving Lesnar one of his best matches ever (some say his absolute best).

As far as Undertaker/Angle SD matches go, the one from 2003 and the NWO 06 rematch are the best two, with the SD 03 being better than NWO imo.

[Forever Unchained]

Originally Posted by KingCal

After RVD he had nobody to work with? Rock? Flair? Hardy? HHH (shit matches, but he was a big babyface to work with)? Hogan (see HHH)? Austin? Angle?

Then when he ran through the babyfaces, he turned babyface and had a great feud with Lesnar, giving Lesnar one of his best matches ever (some say his absolute best).

I didn't like the Backlash match with Austin much. Same with the Trips and Hogan matches. Love the Ladder with Jeff though. There was just something about this Big Evil heel run that I didn't get into. The roster was full but it seemed like every other match had interference. Ye know I can't even remember the build-up feuds for Hogan, Triple H or Austin.


I don't disagree with Lesnar match being fantastic, maybe not his best as my favourite would be Angle @ SummerSlam 2003.

[Big Z]

Doesn't matter if the matches were good or not (I liked most of them, with the exception of those godawful HHH and Hogan matches ), but you said he didn't have anyone to work with when clearly he did lol .

Undertaker needs to have another heel run.

And while I'm here... Fuck you Sterling! Not only am I downloading almost all the matches you uploaded from 2010, but I can't get enough of SD/Superstars/ECW (before it died) 2010 . Already worked my way through SD in Jan, and I'm working my way through Superstars right now, and will no doubt get to ECW soon (technically next, but just for one match I know I have on my PC, and is a very strong candidate for TV MOTY). And that's just January. I'm months behind dammit!

I really should pay more attention to things when they happen .

[Clique]

Originally Posted by KingCal

Undertaker needs to have another heel run.

Who's going to boo him?

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by The Clique

Who's going to boo him?

Hmm... good point . He should become more sinister anyway.

A sample of the 2010 reviews I have been doing:

Christian Vs William Regal - WWE Superstars 14/01/2010

Now I understand why I have this show on my PC .

Great start to the match, with both guys fighting for control through the arm. Not working over the arm, but trying to control their opponent through the arm. And I think Regal is one of the better guys at doing it, both controlling with the arm and letting his opponent control him through the arm.

Its all back and forth, even with Big Zeke trying to get involved (and being sent to the back), but one little shove by Regal sends Christian off the ropes and down to the floor, hitting the apron on his way down. Seems to be a favourite transition spot for Christian in his matches lol. No surprise because it looks great.

Regal headbutting Christian for daring to attempt to escape a hold is awesome. Like, really fucking awesome. Like, better than anything not involving old man Flair in TNA awesome . Christian just collapsing after taking the headbutt further solidifies my thoughts on him being one of the best sellers in the world... either that or Regal is still one of the stiffest bastards in the world . Either way its great.

Speaking of great... Regal's Half Nelson suplex makes me mark like a bitch every single time I see it. I'd love for someone to make a video of just Regal hitting that suplex. Would be like a fetish porn for me .

Finish is nice, showing that Christian can survive anything and still comeback with his Killswitch to pick up the win, which is just what needed to be shown going into the RR against Big Zeke for the ECW title.

Definitely a TV MOTYC for me.

Rating: ***1/2