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Its actually been good as a version of 2009 superstars this season, there was a brief spell where Superstars was just divas matches and matches featuring Nexus, JTG and other lesser workers and instead Kidd feuded with Tatsu on NXT and they had some really good matches with the odd match also being on Superstars.

Apparently Kidd and Barreta had a real good match this week on NXT, Barreta bumps like a freak for a Kidd brainbuster and also hits a bonkers whisper in the win off a guardrail. Think Seabs on the other forum mentioned it was a real good match in his Smackdown review.

Yeah McQueen I get what you mean, I'm guessing the extra freedom and creativity may just appeal to some of the better workers who get to basically try out and plan spots for future matches that they wouldn't normally get to do on TV. I think the likes of Regal and Bourne though naturally work better in House Shows since Regal can really play a better character and put on a show, and Bourne can run through some great spots that he won't be able to use on TV every week whilst getting more time to play a really good cheesy babyface and do some comedy spots and interact with the crowd. Punk's amazing in House Shows as well, especially as a Heel.

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I think with house shows the pressure's off and people relax and interact with the crowd more, especially on Raw if you're not a featured part of the show you're lucky if your match goes 5 minutes and people try to make as good an impression as they can in the limited time they get. With House Shows the wrestlers can relax and focus on entertaining just as much as putting on good-great matches.
Good thought. Its too bad that might be accurate. I know WWE claims to not only just focus on the wrestling, but they would really benefit if their programs had noteworthy matches weekly. Especially if the roster gets chances to shine and give us something more. Let Tyson Kidd have a good night vs Punk or Cena. He doesn't have to win. Let them work in the ring with time and no pressure and i'm sure the product can just be that much more fun. Having everyone grow and develop can only be positive. Maybe some aren't a fan of Kidd's like I am, nonetheless, you get my point here.

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WWE should book Yoshihiro Takayama for one night only at Wrestlemania and have him beat the shit out of The Rock and/or HHH.

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Yeah part of WWE's problem is how many matches they give away on TV and then do later on PPV where the heat is barely greater than it was when we got it for free. I'm a big fan of heels agreeing to a big match on TV against a face before ducking out and subbing a midcard workhorse who could benefit with working a top face for a good amount of time, Ziggler's looked really great whenever he's faced Orton this year and had a really great match with Cena on Raw during that infamous Raw where Vickie got unreal heat even for her.


McQueen why would you get my hopes out like that ya bastard. Rock attempting the people's elbow only to catch a running kneelift from Takayama would make me lose my shit. Actually imagine Takayama vs Bourne.....FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
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My problem with WWE is how protected some of the guys are (ORTON). Lets have him fued with the midcarder who needs to be a top heel on the brand that needs starpower and not let the guy win once against Orton.

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I can see myself watching FCW on a weekly basis, they put on better matches then TNA does.
Smackdown puts on better matches/overall shows than both Raw and Impact. I'd love for WWE to air FCW, NXT and Superstars on the new WWE Network next year so I'd actually watch the shows because I would at least have them recorded to my DVR.


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Yeah part of WWE's problem is how many matches they give away on TV and then do later on PPV where the heat is barely greater than it was when we got it for free. I'm a big fan of heels agreeing to a big match on TV against a face before ducking out and subbing a midcard workhorse who could benefit with working a top face for a good amount of time, Ziggler's looked really great whenever he's faced Orton this year and had a really great match with Cena on Raw during that infamous Raw where Vickie got unreal heat even for her.


McQueen why would you get my hopes out like that ya bastard. Rock attempting the people's elbow only to catch a running kneelift from Takayama would make me lose my shit. Actually imagine Takayama vs Bourne.....FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
Loved the Ziggler vs Orton match. Ziggler vs Cena from late last year delivered too. Only part of the reason why he should be in the WWE picture atm. Great worker, imo.

Subbing out the major heels for other heels is exactly right. Del Rio can back out of something vs Punk come this monday, then Punk has to duke it out Drew McIntyre or someone. A good way to utilize a good part of the roster if you ask me.

EDIT ~ Yeah, fuck Orton hard for that. Rhodes losing even though he is the best heel on Smackdown that isn't named Mark Henry. Real smart.

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Exactly as well as ensuring they hold off on the big PPV matches, at the very least I'd prefer a tag match (insert Teddy Long joke here) where they mix up the roles: i.e Punk/Orton vs Rhodes/Del Rio would see Punk work Rhodes and not ADR so as to leave more of their interaction and spots to the PPV match, and likewise Rhodes/Orton. The inability as well of WWE to sustain the heat in a feud is also pretty dire, it seems more often than not the build to the first match is really good (Batista/Cena, Cena/Miz) before eventually we get two or three rematches on PPV and the heat is non existant or certainly lacking compared to the first match.

I mean part of why I love the HBK/Jericho feud is how you could tell with each passing match they hated each other more, they didn't have one hate filled match and then subsequent rematches where it seemed like an excuse to keep a good thing going rather than progress the angle, with each match Jericho had done something worse to Michaels to draw some hate out of him (although the less said about Michaels in the Unsanctioned match at Unforgiven the better).
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McQueen why would you get my hopes out like that ya bastard. Rock attempting the people's elbow only to catch a running kneelift from Takayama would make me lose my shit. Actually imagine Takayama vs Bourne.....FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
Because seeing Takayama stop The Rock's stupid punch combo or other cartoonish wind up strikes with a legit jab to the face is just too good not to think about. Seeing him counter The People's Elbow by getting up and kneeing The Rock in the face would make my life complete.

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WWE lacks the fundamentals right now to keep the heat in a feud. I know they are capable. They need to act on it. See, the Jericho vs Shawn promo. YES. Great example. Proves what they can do and it isn't from YEARS ago. Was recent. Instead they have a match on a ppv with decent heat. It happens. Then a rematch with little to no heat is made, a la Punk vs Del Rio. Luckily Henry vs Show is justified and working out with given how Vengeance was a non-finish. I hate to see the potential there and them not capitalize on it. I don't even know if I would call myself a Del Rio fan anymore. I am that bored with his work now.

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