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Old 08-23-2010, 06:13 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Christian Vs Drew McIntyre - WWE Smackdown 16/07/2010

Damn, these two don't waste any time going at it, its almost like they have wrestled a bunch of times already and don't want to mess around with a warm up or shit lol.

Cool to see a variation of that move Christian does in the ropes where he falls back and kicks the guy in the face. Normally he does it in the corner, but here its on the apron and is done to kick McIntyre in the back of the head and off the apron. I'm a fan of the move in general, but it does kinda get predictable in his matches so I'm loving the variation. Oh, and this is about 30 seconds into the match too lol. Like I said, they ain't wasting their time!

Its a couple of days before the MITB PPV, and both guys are in the match, so them going at it right from the start makes sense as they both want to make a statement going into the PPV.

Loving the shit they do on the apron in this match btw. First it was Christian's kick thing, then McIntyre with a neckbreaker on Christian using the top rope, and then a great (and sick looking) bump from Christian from the top rope falling backwards and landing on the apron on his way down. Love how Drew tries to do the same thing a few minutes later when Christian is getting in some offence, only for Christian to counter with a great Tornado DDT.

Christian is really awesome in this. He plays the veteran really well; countering the relatively new Drew and timing his comebacks nicely (one point was when he got a shot in at Drew, knocking Drew into the corner but didn't go after him. Instead he waited for Drew to come after HIM, and he went straight for a drop toe hold. Simple, but I liked it). Drew was great too, as he seemed to get better as the match went on; learning how to counter Christian and eventually realising that cheating would be the best method of gaining the upperhand long enough to hit his DDT and win.

Really, really great sub-10 minute TV match. Glad that Sterling's pimping of these Christian/Drew matches made me go back and watch it . Now to watch the other two!

Rating: ***


Christian Vs Drew McIntyre - WWE Smackdown 30/07/2010

Apparently you can "feel Drew enter your world" when he makes his entrance. I'm not sure what to make of that...

Things are a little slower at the start of the match, no doubt since both guys have been in the ring with each other a few times by now and are a little wary of each other lol. Christian, and I know I keep saying this, really does come across as the veteran with his actions in the ring. Every time I watch the guy, he just does a great job of establishing that he is the veteran (for the most part anyway lol, he seems to wrestle younger guys more than older guys these days), and he works with that better than almost anyone else right now.

Drew takes a couple of good bumps, especially the back bump into the apron following a dropkick. The transition spot where Drew leads Christian closer to the ring so he can smash his arm into the metal part of the ring apron is fucking glorious. Not only is the spot well done, but it means Christian gets to sell his arm . As we saw in his series with Swagger last year, Christian can sell the arm (and other body parts) better than probably anyone in the company today.

Nice control segment from Drew as he works over the arm and is nice and vicious about it. All culminates in Christian's comeback (another thing he is great at), and a nice finishing stretch complete with selling of the arm (a lot of very talented wrestlers tend to stop selling towards the end, but not Christian!).

Matt Striker actually says something smart when he talks about Christian's veteran instincts and how he lures Drew into position so he can do something (like I mentioned in my last review), and it plays a big part in the finish with Christian countering the DDT and pinning Drew with a small package!

Another fantastic TV match here, and again I think it was sub-10 minutes, but a little longer than their first match. Christian's selling of the arm was fantastic as usual (not up there with the Swagger match, but still great), and Drew's offence looked focused and vicious, and just great.

Rating: ***1/2


Christian Vs Drew McIntyre - WWE Smackdown 20/08/2010

Drew basically running at Christian and going after the arm as soon as the bell rings is awesome. Christian making McIntyre look like a fool is awesome. McIntyre getting pissed off and making sure he injures Christian's arm again is epicly awesome.

The whole Christian arm injury is reminding me of Benoit in 2005, where he got it injured in the MITB match, and continued to sell it in his matches for the next couple of weeks, and that's exactly what Christian is doing here. Plus something like this allows for storytelling to be automatically added to the match no matter the opponent, and storytelling is what its all about .

McIntyre is even more vicious than last time with his attacks on the arm, and hell, Christian is even better with selling the arm too. Sterling mentioned a DDT spot from Christian, where he hits the move and sells the arm at the same time, and you really have to see it to see its awesomeness.

Loved the finish to this match, again plays into Christian being a great veteran, and keeps Drew looking somewhat strong in defeat too. Just as good at the 30/07 match, and I probably enjoyed this one just a little more too. Another solid TV MOTYC.

Rating: ***1/2


Dolph Ziggler Vs Chris Masters - WWE Superstars 13/05/2010[/u]

Don't think I have sat through a full Masters match in... umm... years lol. Heard a TON of great things about him in the last few months, so I am very interested in seeing how he has improved. And going against Ziggler, a guy I really enjoy, is probably going to help me give this match a real chance .

I love Todd on commentary btw. Striker is just talking complete shit, and Todd is calling him on pretty much everything and making him look like a retard. Striker tries to throw some shit back at Todd, but Todd works with it and continues to make Striker sound like a retard .

Ok, the match. Masters gets a really nice babyface shine period for the first 5 minutes or so of the match. His offence looks good, and Ziggler is a great bumper so naturally everything looks good. Nice transitional period into Ziggler's control segment with a couple of decent hope spots from Masters.

I like how they are building up both guy's finisher too; the Masterlock from Masters and the sleeper hold form Ziggler. Masters went for his early on and Ziggler quickly escaped before it was locked in and ran out of the ring, putting the move over. Ziggler on the other hand had to wait before he could try and lock it in, and his first opportunity came when Masters was on the mat, and Ziggler couldn't quite lock it in so he quickly changed his positioning and locked in a different hold instead, one that was much better on the mat. Smart wrestling from Ziggler.

Masters makes his comeback, and we quickly go right into the finishing stretch rather than having Masters get fired up a little more, but I'm not complaining. More build to the Masterlock, with Ziggler running away before Masters can even grab him, then coming right back in the ring to go for the sleeper, and we get a great little back and forth sequence with them trying to lock in their submissions, only for Ziggler to take advantage of a situation and he hits the Zig Zag for the win instead!

Damn, this was... fucking great! I wasn't entirely sure what to expect given what I remember Masters being like (shit), but he was as good as everyone has been saying, and being in the ring with someone like Ziggler made him look even better. As far as the actual match, it told a wonderful story based around the Masterlock and the sleeper hold, and I was loving it. See what a story can do for a match? Now imagine if any of the Beer Money/MCMG matches had storytelling in them... they might have turned out good!

Rating: ***1/4

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Old 08-24-2010, 10:04 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Really really glad to see you loved that stuff, Cal. I can't believe how good the Christian/D Mac series turned out. Gee whiz. Have you re-watched the Hardy/McIntyre matches yet? Really good stuff there, though I prefer the series with Christian. And Masters has had a really great year. Tons of stuff worth checking out, but the Gallows and Chavo matches are probably the best ones other than the Ziggler match. And there was a really fun triple threat with Primo & Chavo.
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I'm working my way through SD 2010 atm, similar to what I did with SD 06. On the last match from the last show in Jan (HBK/Rey ) just now, so I'll eventually catchup to some newer stuff with Hardy/Drew. I should probably download Superstars or something and do the same with that too. Maybe Raw as well, but meh, Raw is hard for me to watch these days. I think its just the presentation of it, being black and red and looking so... dreary. SD is nice and bright with white and Blue and just seems better to watch lol.

Since you brought up series of matches... have you seen the Dolph/Kane series from SD in Jan? I really liked them first time around, and still really liked them this time around too. Dolph looked great, and Kane looked better than he has in years. Not on the level of the Drew/Christian series, but still good and their final match is very good.
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Yeah, actually, I remember being surprised by how much I enjoyed that series. You know how I feel about Kane, but he's been involved in some pretty good stuff this year. Dolph looked really really awesome in those matches. Kinda been wanting to see them again to see how they match up with other stuff.

I should be able to provide links to most of the good shit from Superstars. I'll bring a little post over here, and that combined with Seabs's post should cover most everything worth seeing, unless you really want to see some Bellas matches and stuff like that.
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Have there been any major or interesting DVDs released over the last few months? And were Summerslam or MiTB worth seeing?

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I watched the Undertaker/Randy Orton series from 2005. I don't know how others rate these matches but there was nothing approaching a four star match for me. I was going to write reviews for them and give stars but there's no point. I'm never going to watch this batch of matches again and they only barely kept me interested.

I'm pretty sure it was 'Mania 21 they started hyping the streak. The Cell match I thought was very bad though the last great Cell match was Taker/Brock so that figures.
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I watched the Undertaker/Randy Orton series from 2005. I don't know how others rate these matches but there was nothing approaching a four star match for me. I was going to write reviews for them and give stars but there's no point. I'm never going to watch this batch of matches again and they only barely kept me interested.

I'm pretty sure it was 'Mania 21 they started hyping the streak. The Cell match I thought was very bad though the last great Cell match was Taker/Brock so that figures.
Their 'Mania 21 match was great. Higher side of 3-stars. The rest of the series was okay.

As for the Cell matches comments, Veangeance 2005 would have something to say about it. Personally, it's arguably the grestest Cell match, maybe a hair behind numero uno.
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Huge fan of the Undertaker/Orton series. ****1/4 for their WM and SS matches (SS being the better of the two), then ***3/4 for the SD match they had around that time, and probably ***1/2 for their HIAC thought I haven't seen it in a while, and I don't remember anything about the handicap casket match.
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Taker/HBK is the best Cell match. Then I'd probably go Vengeance 05, then Cactus/Hunter, then Taker/Lesnar.

And to redeadening: I'm probably higher on 2010 WWE than anyone else on here, so keep that in mind, but I enjoyed SummerSlam and thought it was at least worth a watch. The main event was for the most part great, though the finish was slightly lame. Great surprise return, awesome babyface stuff from Jericho, actual good offense from Bret, AWESOME performance by Skip Sheffield (who comes across as a legit madman), Heath Slater proving he can bump around really well, unintentionally comical punches from Michael Tarver, minimal Otunga action, fun stuff from Gabriel, well-worked tension on Team WWE. Not sure if you know the surprise or if you've been hiding from the internet and living in a cave, but it was awesome.

Rest of the show was alright. Ziggler/Kofi wasn't as good as their best matches together, but they have good chemistry and Ziggler rules. Sheamus/Orton was really fun and Orton was over like crazy. The finish of the SES/Show match did no one any good, but it was still fun. Show looked like a beast and Punk was a riot and Gallows and Mercury both bump around well, and they played off Show's hand injury well. Kane/Rey was good, too. It was a Rey Mysterio match in 2010.

Others like MITB more than I did, but I'd still say it was a good show. I thought both MITB matches were really fun-- some folks thought the SD! one was legit great. Show was freaking awesome. Mark Henry was awesome in the Raw match, too. Made Edge's Spear look better than anyone else has. Pretty sure there was a good Drew/Kofi match on that show. I don't like Kofi much, but Drew has been impressive lately. Swagger/Rey was good but nowhere near their first SD! match.

As for Orton/Taker-- I liked both the Mania match and the SS match a lot. Wasn't crazy about the handicap match (Craig was crazy about, but he's crazy <3) or the HIAC, though I'd probably call the HIAC good.
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I really enjoyed the Orton vs Taker series. Both men were in the top of their game in terms of workrate. But the match I enjoyed most was the Wrestlemania 21. I was tense the entire match. Psychology was awesome. And when Orton reversed the chokeslam into the RKO, I almost had a heart attack. The HIAC match too was very enjoyable.

Thanks for the reccomendations sterling. I guess I'll check all of them out. I'll also be getting the Elimination Chamber set. BTW, whats this I heard about a 'Best of RAW Yr 1 and 2' DVD?
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