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Old 03-02-2013, 08:36 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Agree with Cody loved the GAB match between Umaga and Jeff, outside of maybe Hunter I can't think of anyone else who had better chemistry with Jeff, then dat Samoan Bulldozer
CM Punk had an array of 4 star-plus matches with Jeff leading up to Summerslam, Right before Jeff left for TNA.
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One thing I just noticed during Orton/Angle from ONS... THERE'S ACTUALLY A SIGN THAT READS "JOHN CENA RULES"! Can you believe that? :shock



But Orton changed way too much. Going from arrogant, cocky heel to psychopath? Just sounds like too much of a change. When Cena or ROCK changed their characters, it was minor changes and not complete overhaul of their looks and how they carry themselves. Cena's rapping gimmick died in 2004 btw.
I think 2006/07 was the official end for Cena's gimmick. He was still insulting his opponents by rhyming words when he moved to RAW. Sure he wasn't rapping in every segment/promo like he was in 2003 but he did rap a few times. After 2007, he stopped completely.

I agree that he changed too much but my point is that Orton's viper gimmick only sucked after he turned face in 2010. He was cutting one of the best promos of 2009 when he was feuding with HHH. Compare the promo below to the any of his promos now. I don't think it really matters how different your gimmick is compared to previous gimmicks. Look at Taker's gimmicks. American badass is very different to his lord of ministry or Phenom gimmicks. It's how you play them and Orton has shown that he can be entertaining being the Viper. It's just that the guy is a natural heel, in the same way Punk and Edge are.

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CM Punk had an array of 4 star-plus matches with Jeff leading up to Summerslam, Right before Jeff left for TNA.
My mistake Punk would be right up there as well, granted I'm not as high as everyone else on the TLC, it's still a great match. I loved though the Cage match on smackdown and there NOC match is great too
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NOC is good. Won't go past that. The TLC & Cage matches were wonderful. Especially the Cage. Such a drama filled encounter. Ah, its something special.
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Holy shit, I'm watching Benoit and Angle from W17 to see how it holds up against their Rumble match and i was looking at the crowd to see how they were reacting to their match and I think i'm actually seeing Batista in the front row, He is wearing sun glasses and a yellow shirt. You need to check this out guys.
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That was Batista in 2001. He was in OVW. Champion for a good while too.
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Punk/Cena > Rock/Austin for me as well.

Austin vs. Rock

WMXV - ***1/2
WMXVII - ****3/4
WMXIX - ****1/4

Cena vs. Punk

MITB '11 - *****
Summerslam '11 - ****1/2
NOC '12 - ****1/4

RAW August 2011 and February 2013 - ****
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Ignore the WM 15 match for Austin/Rock. Backlash '99 people. It makes their series look much stronger.
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Still need to complete the Austin/Rock series. I've only watched Wrestlemania 17 and 19 matches. I need to rewatch the Cena/Punk matches again though.
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I don't remember that match at all. To search I go!

On the topic of early Orton greatness, I was definitely a mark for his 2003-06 run. Especially his IC run. Loved his character back then.
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