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Old 03-02-2013, 08:11 PM   #71 (permalink)
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So, I watched a match I never have gotten around to watching today, Flair/HHH LMS, here is a little on the spot write up,

Triple H vs Ric Flair, Last Man Standing, Survivor Series 11/27/05

Oh my Jesus, let me start by saying, Flair was 57 fucking years old when this match happened, and holy shit the shit the man took. The match starts with HHH beating the hell out of him while Flair is still in the robe, BAH GAWD! In the first two minutes Coach is losing his shit because he hates Flair and wants HHH to deliver the fatal shot, ala Ole Yeller. Anyways, Flair eventually is out of the coat and chops and old men punches galore~. Jesus I love this man. What happens next literally made me cringe. Flair goes head first into the ringpost, then DA GAME takes a screwdriver to his head. Before you say, "but Flair always bleeds, he is DA GOAT" but Flair bleeds like a motherfucker. So in the first ten minutes of the match, Flair has taken a backdrop to the floor, a suplex to the floor, and is bleeding like fuck.

The middle portion of the match had me marking so hard, one spot in particular, in which Flair backdrops HHH through the announcer table . After that there really isn't a control segment, but it is pretty much even. Then Flair starts working over the leg like a god, with the idea of "oh shit he can't stand if he has another torn quad" so it is self explanatory mini story in the match, and I loved it. Flair then locks in the figure four for a solid minute with HHH tapping and Flair holding himself up with the ropes. Now the finishing stretch!

DA GAME is pissed when he is up and able again, and boom, steel steps to Flair's head. Flair comes up at 7. HHH goes for another, A MOTHERFUCKIMG DROP TOE HOLD! It looked like to me that HHH barely got his hands in front of his face in time, but now he is fuming. When he rises, PEDIGREE TO FLAIR! Flair hulks up and is up at 8! SECOND PEDIGREE TO FLAIR! Flair hulks up at 9! THIRD FUCKING PEDIGREE TO FLAIR! Flair begins to stir, and HHH delivers the final blow to the head with his signature sledgehammer to put down the Nature Boy.

Rating: ****3/4

Holy fuck I adored this match, I probably overrated it but who gives a shit, this shit owned . Sorry if my review is meh, it was my first one so please don't judge too harshly
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:13 PM   #72 (permalink)
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HHH vs Flair LMS - ★★★★¼

Their cage match is the shit and even better, though.

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To be fair, his heel stuff in 2009 were awesome. The promos were not anything like today. His face run has totally ruined his character IMO.
That's not my problem. What I am bothered by is how much of a 180 his slow transition was. He used to cut promos with a load of energy and just had that awesome cocky grin with an awesome wrestling style before then suddenly he becomes a psychopath who speaks in the slowest most monotone way possible and walks around the ring at a snail's pace.
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@ the crowd in Angle vs Orton. Really like the Angle/Orton ONS match and subsequent Vengeance rematch. Then again, I pretty much marked the fuck out and still mark the fuck out for his 04-06 work.

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Oh yea, I probably should of mentioned I loved the cage match even more, *****
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That's not my problem. What I am bothered by is how much of a 180 his slow transition was. He used to cut promos with a load of energy and just had that awesome cocky grin before then suddenly he becomes a psychopath who speaks in the slowest most monotone way possible.
His character was always going to change though. He was a young arrogant heel for 5 years, he was never going to be the same character. Almost every wrestler has changed their gimmick/characters. ROCK in 2001/2002 was different from the ROCK in 1999, Cena's rapping gimmick slowly died in 2007 and etc.

The main problems with Orton are his stale face run and his booking. The dude hasn't had a real storyline since summer of 2011.
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One thing I just noticed during Orton/Angle from ONS... THERE'S ACTUALLY A SIGN THAT READS "JOHN CENA RULES"! Can you believe that? :shock

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His character was always going to change though. He was a young arrogant heel for 5 years, he was never going to be the same character. Almost every wrestler has changed their gimmick/characters. ROCK in 2001/2002 was different from the ROCK in 1999, Cena's rapping gimmick slowly died in 2007 and etc.

The main problems with Orton are his stale face run and his booking. The dude hasn't had a real storyline since summer of 2011.
But Orton changed way too much. Going from arrogant, cocky heel to psychopath? Just sounds like too much of a change. When Cena or ROCK changed their characters, it was minor changes and not complete overhaul of their looks and how they carry themselves. Cena's rapping gimmick died in 2004 btw.
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Umaga vs Jeff Hardy - Great American Bash 2007 - ***3/4

Fun as hell. These two had great chemistry together and I'd say this was probably my favorite match between them.
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LOVE IT.

Plus a humorous JR line: "do they have sidewalks in Samoa? Either way it was a hell of a Sidewalk Slam."

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Especially agree about this theme music from then. It was so much better than the current one, IMO.
I like the Voices theme. Burn in my Light was my song though. Fit his character so well at the time.

I'm with C2D here on Orton. His character change has been drastic. How could someone go from cutting promos with charisma, to being devoid of it nowadays? It's...unusual.
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Agree with Cody loved the GAB match between Umaga and Jeff, outside of maybe Hunter I can't think of anyone else who had better chemistry with Jeff, then dat Samoan Bulldozer
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Just wanted to suggest this site, It gives you all the matches a certain opponent has had with another. It finds all TV and PPV matches, don't know about house matches though.

http://www.profightdb.com/

Use the white box at the top to type in your wrestler's name, when it's done searching it would give you all the gimmicks they had. For example, When i put in Undertaker. It gave me 3 gimmicks - Cain The Undertaker, The Fake Undertaker and The Undertaker

The bold is obviously the right one, Once you choose that gimmick. They will give his last set of matches wrestled and the results, Click on where it says Opponents & Partners and follow thru from there.

It's a real simple site, i feel i have complicated it with this Guide. LOL, Just thought i'd share considering it helped me find all the Angle/Taker matches.
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Agree with Cody loved the GAB match between Umaga and Jeff, outside of maybe Hunter I can't think of anyone else who had better chemistry with Jeff, then dat Samoan Bulldozer


Trips vs Umaga Street Fight IMO too.

Profight is a beacon of light for the majority. Wished it updated AJPW matches. Would make finding results much simpler.
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