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I'll be saving that for tomorrow morning. Slightly burned out now . The reviews I saw on 411 earlier indicated a fantastic match too. Tomorrow should be Dusty/Flair, their 2nd match at Starrcade, the Magnum/Blanchard I Quit at 'cade and that BotB match. After that, hopefully find a footing on watching more weekly shows.
Oh man, Magnum/Tully is sensational and the best I Quit match ever. Heck depending on The Final Conflict tag its a pretty reasonable assumption its the best Cage match in history. So violent, so raw, so emotional and so simple and basic. Harrowingly violent and a sensational spectacle and culmination of a bitter and personal feud.

Flair/Wahoo may be even better, thought the context and structure is so different its hard to objectively compare them with each other. Its a typical Flair formula implemented by a powerful Wahoo performance, a far more violent and physical affray than you associate with Flair and a rabid crowd who become unglued for everything Wahoo does.

You seen much of Memphis & Mid South btw? There's some absolute gems I'm sure you could appreciate if you haven't already been exposed to them.

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Love your Bourne/Morrison write up. As a huge Morrison fan, I'm going to have to give that match a watch. I remember our debate a couple weeks ago about Morrison's offense not being all that captivating, but I felt his heel stuff was executed with a hint of violence (mainly the running knee) and once he transitioned into the role of a babyface I think the flashiness took over.
http://www.dailymotion.com/gb/releva...1#video=x90a8k

Yeah Morrison shocked me here. I mean a feckin' punt to the eye and what appeared to be a kick to the chin that should have shattered Bourne's face and made him an eternal hiedously deformed man. Where the heck he was keeping that reckless abandon for his opponent's health I have no idea, but if he started punting people in the eye on a regular basis I'd be forced to declare a case of man love for him.

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Unfortunately I think two those companies are a bit far in the future. Will probably check out AWA after finishing up around WCW 94-96.

Are there places to brush up on the Magnum/Tully feud? Not too fussed if its in writing or video. Would definately like to see into the more psychological side of their rivalry.
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Unfortunately I think two those companies are a bit far in the future. Will probably check out AWA after finishing up around WCW 94-96.

Are there places to brush up on the Magnum/Tully feud? Not too fussed if its in writing or video. Would definately like to see into the more psychological side of their rivalry.
Fair enough. There are some sensational brawls and angles that take place and its personally my absolute favourite era of wrestling by a comfortable distance (moreso Memphis, but its close). I'm gonna be buying the AWA set this week when I place an order to Cal & Seabs respectively, so I'll alert you to any gems in the near future.

http://www.oowrestling.com/columns/circa/20041217.shtml

That looks like a decent summarisation of the characters of both men and a basic overview of their feud. I can't recall too much in the way of specifics and angles, just that it was a long running feud and Magnum was positioned as the heroic babyface and Tully the despicable heel the crowd hated beyond belief. Arguably one of the greatest midcard/upper card feuds in wrestling history and which has one of the most sensational feud enders as well.
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Any overlooked Regal WCW/WWE matches someone wants to point me to?
v Barry Windham 4/18/93
v Ricky Steamboat 8/1/93, 8/8/93, 9/23/93 (the first two kind of disappointed me but maybe you'll like 'em more. I LOOOOOOVE the September one)
v Too Cold Scopio (Clash something)
v Terry Taylor 1/1/94
w/ Austin v Steamboat/Arn. This happened....sometimes in 1994. Arn was babyface I guess, so early-mid 94.
v Larry Zbyszko Slamboree 94, Clash of the Champions 6/23/94, Pro 6/25/94 (not overlooked depending on who you talk to, but the 5/28/94 in particular is one of the better matches in WCW history and not many people mention it...so I'm calling it overlooked. WOOLCOCK put that one down already so here are the OTHER THREE~! )
v Flair (the whole Queensbury Cup whatever it was from 1994. They have Five matches stretched out over five weeks or something)
v Finlay 4/13/96 (People know about the PLB, but I like this one a SHIT TON)
v Sting GAB 96
v Ultimo Dragon Slamboree 97
v Chris Benoit 6/14/01 (Really good for five minutes IIRC)
v JBL (Smackdown in England 2006......the date escapes me, sometimes in April/May)
v Randy Orton 4/14/08
v Christian 8/25/09, Breaking Point 09, 11/10/09, 1/14/10, 1/19/10
v Evan Bourne 4/3/10
v Goldust 8/12/10 (and whatever else matches they had in 2009/2010 but I remember this being the standout....if this is even right date)
v DH Smith Superstars 12/10

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Yeah1993 covered the ones I'd overlooked. Goldust/Regal have a gem of a match on 8/26/10 from Superstars. It goes 13 minutes and I remember it being great, but they had a mini series so its possible another match might have eclipsed it. Only reason I remember the date is that Masters/Mcintyre is the main event of the same show and its one of the better Superstar shows because of these 2 matches.

Also, this great match vs Bourne from the Wrestlemania Revenge Tour in Romania from 2011:



Regal is an amazing pantomine villain, there's some great chain wrestling and a classic heel in peril WOS comedy spot I adore and a really well worked middle and finishing stretch with the crowd being really receptive of everything that's happening. Blows away a Bryan/Regal match from Austria I saw.

Speaking of Regal/Bryan, their December '10 match from Raw was pretty great for 6 or so minutes. Well worth a watch. I'd nominate the Ambrose matches from '11 & '12 in FCW, but I'm assuming you might already be aware of those two. If not, WATCH THEM.

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Fair enough. There are some sensational brawls and angles that take place and its personally my absolute favourite era of wrestling by a comfortable distance (moreso Memphis, but its close). I'm gonna be buying the AWA set this week when I place an order to Cal & Seabs respectively, so I'll alert you to any gems in the near future.

http://www.oowrestling.com/columns/circa/20041217.shtml

That looks like a decent summarisation of the characters of both men and a basic overview of their feud. I can't recall too much in the way of specifics and angles, just that it was a long running feud and Magnum was positioned as the heroic babyface and Tully the despicable heel the crowd hated beyond belief. Arguably one of the greatest midcard/upper card feuds in wrestling history and which has one of the most sensational feud enders as well.
What were the rosters of Memphis and Mid-South like? The regulars I remember were DiBiase/Duggan/maybe Hansen and Brody? from Mid-South, and I can only think of Lawler from Memphis.

I look forward to the AWA feedback. I only really know of Curt Hennig, Adrian Adonis & Nick Bockwinkel wrestling in the fed, but everything about it indicated they were putting on solid matches on a regular basis.

Enjoyed the article, seems the Starrcade match is all about Blanchard's come uppance. Had to avoid the last bit, spoilers. But, seems pretty much the typical heel vs babyface. Regardless, I look forward to the match a bit more from it. Going to hit the hay, to get the full concentration of watching the matches before I get hassled by people tomorrow. Cheers for the feedback and matches though.
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What were the rosters of Memphis and Mid-South like? The regulars I remember were DiBiase/Duggan/maybe Hansen and Brody? from Mid-South, and I can only think of Lawler from Memphis.

I look forward to the AWA feedback. I only really know of Curt Hennig, Adrian Adonis & Nick Bockwinkel wrestling in the fed, but everything about it indicated they were putting on solid matches on a regular basis.

Enjoyed the article, seems the Starrcade match is all about Blanchard's come uppance. Had to avoid the last bit, spoilers. But, seems pretty much the typical heel vs babyface. Regardless, I look forward to the match a bit more from it. Going to hit the hay, to get the full concentration of watching the matches before I get hassled by people tomorrow. Cheers for the feedback and matches though.
Memphis: Lawler, Dundee, Mantell, Ricky Morton, Moondogs, Fabulous Ones, Bigleow (short appearances), Austin Idol, Tommy Rich, Terry Funk (predominantly in the Lawler feud in '81), Flair (short appearances to defend vs Koko Ware & the classic Lawler angle in summer of '82), Savage, Koko, Bockwinkel/Martel/Hennig as touring AWA champions, Jerry Blackwell, Bobby Eaton, Jimmy Hart etc.

Mid South: Duggan, Dibiase, Magnum TA, Flair, Wahoo, Rock n Roll Express, Midnight Express, Buzz Sawyer, Junkyard Dog, Butch Reed, Dick Murdoch, Chavo Guerrero (Chavo Classic in WWE), Mr Olympia, Steve Williams, Terry Taylor, Jake Roberts, The Fantastics, Matt Borne (Doink) etc.

Stacked with talent. Wonderful angles, intense and well executed brawls with magnificent performances, nuclear crowds, a plethora of beloved babyfaces and detestable heels, an array of quality segments and promos. Just chaotic and at times surreal wrestling but held together by cohesive, logical and well developed feuds with satisfying payoffs.

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Hansen and Brody weren't regulars for pretty much anything in the US. Brody was a guy who toured around where he wanted and held up promoters for more money, and Hansen was pretty much Japan-only past 81 other than his AWA run in 86 and his WCW run in 90-91. Hansen showed up in Memphis in 83 and had a pretty great feud with Austin Idol, though.

It's really hard to say what the 'rosters' were, but regulars/semi-regulars (depending on your term of 'regulars...these guys popped up a bunch on either the DVDVR sets or just random shows n shit) include

CWA: Lawler, Bill Dundee, Koko Ware, Bobby Eaton, Austin Idol, Buddy Landel, Dutch Mantel, Wayne Ferris, Eddie Gilbert, Tommy Rich, Kamala, Bam Bam Bigelow, Kevin Sullivan, the Fantastics, the Moondogs, Adrian Street, Randy Savage, , Norvell Austin, Jeff Jarrett, Phil Hickerson, etc.

Mid-South: Duggan, DiBiase, JYD, the Guerreros, Butch Reed, the Midnight Express, RNR Express, Magnum TA, the Fantastics, Chris Adams, Terry Taylor, the One Man Gang, Dick Murdoch, Ric Flair, Jake Roberts, Steve Williams, Terry Gordy, Bubba Rogers, Buzz Sawyer, Dick Slater, etc.

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Goldust/Regal have a gem of a match on 8/26/10 from Superstars. It goes 13 minutes and I remember it being great, but they had a mini series so its possible another match might have eclipsed it. Only reason I remember the date is that Masters/Mcintyre is the main event of the same show and its one of the better Superstar shows because of these 2 matches.
Ah, THAT'S the one I meant. I was thinking of the date for Masters/Chavo......for some reason.


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Regal/Punk MSG House Show 12/30/08
Regal/Psicosis Nitro 12/16/96
Regal/Edge series according to Cal
Regal/Benoit Velocity July '05
Regal/Zbyszko Saturday Night 5/28/94
Regal/Mysterio Nitro 2/10/97
Regal/Tony Pena Nitro 11/25/96
Regal/Johnny B Badd COTC XXV 11/10/93

I know you asked for WCW/WWE specifically, but Hashimoto/Regal (4/16/95) is sensational and a top 3 Regal match ever. Maybe his best ever depending on how much people adore the Uncensored '96 bout vs Finlay.
I <3 you. Moment the match finished all I had in my head was: "which one did I love more - Regal/Hash or Regal/Finlay from Uncensored?"

Oh, and Regal/Goldust from Superstars in 2010 only goes 6 minutes. So it emphases on the GREAT work to a higher degree considering how little time they had.

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