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Daniel Bryan
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Some random match reviews for things I recently watched.

Hollywood Blondes vs. 2 Cold Scorpio/Marcus Bagwell 5/9/93

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Never really got a chance to ever look in-depth into the Hollywood Blondes outside of a couple big matches (mainly the overrated Flair/Anderson 2/3 Falls Tag). Saw this match recommended on, so I decided to give it a shot. The beginning of this match has one of the best examples of heel tag team work I have ever seen. Pillman and Austin took turns with hiding a foreign object from the referee while the faces beg the ref to keep checking them. These guys are so good at playing with the crowd. When the match starts, we get some great domination from the heels, which brings me to the conclusion that Austin's most underrated aspect was not his "technical" ability, but his work in a tag team environment. The man just "gets" how to do all the tag tropes (blind tags, cheap shots, etc.). I've always preferred Pillman as a face in the ring, but he also knew how to get under the skin of the audience.

One guy that I am honestly shocked that we do not talk about very often here is Scorpio, who is so underappreciated. He's the one that gets the hot tag here, which makes perfect sense as he is the one with the exciting crowd-pleasing offense. The man seems to have a very good grasp with what being a face entails. His charisma always shows up in the ring with his flashy moves and taunts, and because he is black and his name isn't Ezekiel Jackson, he is very entertaining. I should also show my respect to Bagwell, who I never really liked in all honesty. He did a great job flopping around whenever the heels but him in a submission or attacked him with a weapon/towel. Never thought Bagwell had it in him to do all these aerial offensive maneuvers or maintain a fast pace, but consider me shocked.

Apparently these two teams had three other matches in 1993. Looks like I got some watching to do. Match goes to the 15 minute time limit, but in those 15 minutes we get no lull period whatsoever. Can't wait to watch more of these guys, especially if they are as fun as this match.

Brothers of Destruction vs. Power Trip Backlash 2001

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Haven't seen this match since it first aired, and the most I remembered as a kid was how upset I was seeing Kane and Undertaker lose to the newly turned Austin and the GOAT heel HHH. Whenever I looked for show reviews for Backlash, I always saw this match rated very low and deemed as nothing more than an average Attitude Era brawl, but over here at this thread, it has seen some love. No harm in giving this match the old college try.

Once again, we get to see Austin do his thing as a tag team specialist. Every time he gets the tag, he always has the urge to be as rough and aggressive as possible instead of making his heel control segments turn into generic filler. At first glance, this is sort of your typical Attitude Era main event, but the first thing to take note of is that almost all the action stays in the ring instead of it taking place outside the ring, which is honestly one of the most annoying things in the WWE-style main event. The second thing to note here is the consistent limb work based on Kane's elbow. This isn't just something that is abandoned as the match goes in its finishing stage; HHH and Austin attack that limb whenever they feel that the momentum will be shifted. I also loved how Undertaker only tagged in Kane only when he had the advantage as a way to look out for his brother.

As the match progressed, I was waiting for the classic overbooking and nonsense to occur, but I'm happy that they saved it for the very end instead of starting it during the middle portion of the match. The ending inflicted the desired feeling with the way that it made me feel sympathetic for the two monsters. Everyone looked strong in this match, and it really makes me wonder why we don't get more tag main events.

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Rollins plug. Awesome. I probably would have said him if I grouped Rollins with the rest of the Shield. Didn't think collaborative efforts meant what the topic was suggesting. He's plenty great. Always has been so I'm not surprised. He should easily be a star. I know he has the talent to do so. Not to mention he's been the star of almost every promotion he's worked for.

Rollins is the future. Or I can only, truly only, hope for. Being a mega fan since I got into the indies doesn't blind me, I swear.

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Not surprising that they add it to the set, they pretty much had to or there would be a backlash from fans
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Man that Scorpio tag in fantastic. Best Blondes match for sure. What I said a year and a half ago-

The Hollywood Blondes v 2 Cold Scorpio/Marcus Bagwell (Worldwide 5/8/93)
--Not even my hatred for Bagwell prevented me from loving this. I'm going to try to talk about everything I liked but I'll probably forget fifteen things because of how much water made up this tidal wave of greatness. I'll start with how awesome the weapon stuff early on was. You get a lot of weapon-play in matches, but Pillman shoving the [insert what I thought was a bar of soap] into different areas of clothing so the referee would never find it was as good a weapon shtick as I've seen. Would have cool of him to keep it instead of giving it to Austin so he didn't get his his arse handed to him by Bagwell and 2 COLD SCORPIO. Scorpio looked really good on offense and the crowd jumped for his shit. Bagwell looked replaceable, but he was a good guy to be the hot tag to run around clobberin' people up, and the way he fell after the towel wrapped around his neck looked nasty. The time limit expiring disappointed me in a marky way and I was totally pissed that there were any commercials. I may actually be the low voter on this, but it's definitely top 50 material and I'd gladly call it better than any match I saw from 2011. Just everything I want in a tag team match.
They have at least one other match that rules as well. SCORPIO! Scorpio's 1993 >>>>>>>>>>> HHH's 2000.

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How good is Bigelow-Bret from KOTR in star expression?
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It's the other Blondes match vs Scorpio & Bagwell that I saw; not the one mentioned. Scorpio was a talented cat. While in his prime. Anyone who tries to pass him off today is living with nostalgia vision.

Triple B vs Hart KOTR is great. So, where ever that left star ratings for most, go from there. It's worth your time.

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What makes Mark Henry a top 5 worker in the company right now?. What has he does this year to even warrant that position? I was just looking at this years PPV's, and he's only appeared in 3, Elimination Chamber, WrestleMania and Extreme Rules. Henry's performance in the Elimination Chamber was great and I'll give him praise for that, but his matches at WrestleMania and Extreme Rules both sucked. I can't remember any good TV matches from him either this year and he's been gone for some of the year. Unless I'm missing some good TV match he's had, he hasn't had a good in-ring performance since February in the Elimination Chamber, and here we are in July calling him one of the best workers in the company right now. Genuinely curious why, I think the people who just enjoy his work are putting them in their top 5 despite the fact that Henry hasn't done shit pretty much all year. The question might as well be ''who's your top 5 favorite in-ring guys''.
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It depends how you want to classify a worker, I guess. Henry's character work this year has blown everyone else out of the water. Even during a match that isn't particularly great (i.e. Ryback Mania), Henry is still tops.


I could swap Rollins for Jericho, Ziggler, or Sheamus, but Rollins has just been fantastic this year. In his individual work during the six man tags, and all of The Shield work. It's nice to have another fresh face around the top of the pile. Given the opportunity to work more singles matches, I think he'd give anyone a run for their money right now. Guy has improved so much since signing with the 'E and it's tremendous.

Christian returning makes things more interesting as well, and hopefully Rey comes back on form.

Cena has been wishy-washy in '13, like he was in 2012.

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Mark Henry hasn't had a good match this year. Why are people putting him in the top 5 workers this year?

His promos have been good, But his matches have mostly sucked this year.

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Top 5 workers this year:


For curiosity sake, TLC 2012 or Payback 2013?

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