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Cena-Umaga is around, ****3/4 for me. Spectacular match, and in irony sense, we were given 2 more great LMS matchs that year, in Taker-Batista & Orton-Hunter. 2007 = The year of Last Man Standing.
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La Parka v. Saturn (Thunder 3/19/98)
Parka makes a ‘head into chair whilst holding the chair’ spot not look contrived and stupid, so that alone makes this good. It’s a shame the camera didn’t catch Parka taking a slide out of the ring properly, because that looked to be really cool. I’ve never given a crap about Saturn’s work, but he doesn’t look bad at all, he had a really nice spot where he suplex/superplexed Parka whilst on the second rope in the middle of the ring (not near the turnbuckles). If anything it makes me actually hopeful that the Goldberg matches around this time won’t be dragged down by him. Parka trying to work lucha mat-pin stuff with him was probably a bad idea, though.

La Parka v. Meng (Nitro 3/27/00)
So this had an odd story attached to it, an average looking hold for the finish and it went about two minutes. And I LOVE IT. There are just some match ups in wrestling that you don’t realise are dream matches for you until you see the two names on paper together. Parka and Meng fit that bill perfectly and you gotta love WCW for the ‘what if’ match ups being answered. You gotta kinda hate them because the matches never get to really reach their potential with all the restrictions, but, nevertheless, if not for WCW I wouldn’t have seen this. Parka has a gimmick sort of thing where some dubbed voice talks over the microphone for him, and this voice starts talking about his homies and shit, and Parka is playing along. Then the voice calls Meng Angela Davis (this was during Meng’s Huge Fucking Afro period), and Parka drops the mike and tries to tell the voice to shut up. Meng shoves palm after palm in his face and sells a chairshot perfectly for a thick-headed Islander. He stumble to the ground, but Parka shows the chair with a dent in it and on second attempt for a swing, Meng grabs a death grip (which looks kind of bad because Parka’s jacket is in the way) to win it.

La Parka v. Adrian Byrd (Saturday Night, late 1999 or early 2000)
Not sure I’ve ever heard of Byrd before. That’s one of the main things I love about watching random shit – finding stuff that’s totally foreign to me. Byrd kind of looked to me like Carlton from Fresh Price of Bel-Air, if he got really buff and stole Ezekiel Jackson’s head. He was OK ‘mechanically’, but ‘mechanics’ was basically all he was doing. You know when you watching Tough Enough or some sort of wrestling school thing and guys are practicing clotheslines and arm drags? Yeah, kind of looked like he was doing that. Parka is a guy who, no matter how bad a match is, will always be entertaining, and he kept things pretty interesting with his dancing. Taking off the glove so a palm would hurt more was a cool touch, and maaaan the bump on a dropkick where he slid down the apron looks pretty hurtful. It’s probably one of those things that looks more hurtful than it is, but that’s a huge plus in wrestling. You know what isn’t a huge plus in wrestling? WCW announcing. Yeah, keep talking about that Benoit v. Jarrett match that never even happened.

La Parka v. Dean Malenko (Saturday Night 12/27/97)
Tony Schiavone: “what I want to talk about here, is the arrogance of the nWo”. Of course it is. This was really fun, and between this, the Norman Smiley, Ohtani, Disco Inferno and Liger matches, I’ve been underestimating Malenko for a while. I mean I kinda have no time for a bunch of his lengthy matches and I would rather eat my own eyeballs on a skewer than ever watch the Hog Wild match with Benoit again, but he works so well in these short TV matches (the Disco match was even on PPV). He and Parka mess around on the mat and it’s surprisingly quick and spry. Parka gets a camel clutch and fishhooks Malenko’s cheek, which is badass. Wait…. Tony actually APOLOGISED for off-topic commentary. I’mma go feed the flying pigs in my backyard. For a short match this had a really neat finish run, too.

La Parka/Silver King v. Kendall Windham/Curly Bill (Saturday Night 10/2/99)
Curly Bill is Virgil/Vincent’s West Texas Redneck name. I have nothing to say about the match. I could mention what happened, but it’d sound like simple play by play ‘reviewing’ and I don’t do that stuff. Silver King is FIP and eventually tags Parka in. The wrestling wasn’t terribly impressive, but for a seven minute match I have no real complaints. OK, well, one complaint – I’m pretty sure Virgil Irish whipping King into his own corner was the reason for the ‘hot’ tag. Why would you do that?

La Parka v. Spyder (Saturday Night 7/17/99)
After a Google search I still know almost nothing about Spyder, but Tenay says that this is his debut. Turns out he was the lWo bodyguard who is now wrestling, and he seems competent. He takes a fine bump off of offense (and a cool one from a missed stinger splash…or whatever you might call it), but he's the kind of guy to bodyslam someone and then just walk around aimlessly as to say ‘yeah I bodyslammed someone’ or something. Parka’s selling makes this fun, and the end-part of the match where he trips Spyder who’s on the top rope to send him crashing to the floor was awesome as hell.

La Parka/Psicosis v. Mortis/Wrath (Nitro 7/22/97)
Are you fucking *kidding* me? If there was EVER a WCW dream match. Parka takes a fucking corker of a bump off of a Wrath elbow (spins sideways almost 360), and Psicosis hits amazing dives no matter what. Parka then corkscrews to take Wrath out. Psicosis totally botches something from the top rope and crutches himself before going to the outside. Wrath and Mortis hit a powebomb/neckbreaker combo, and instead of breaking the pin, Parka goes outside to get a wooden chair for the post-match. He blasts Kanyon with it and struts with the two wooden pieces left, then takes a fucking SPLAT of an outside bump from a Wrath boot. This is wrestling.


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Cena-Umaga is around, ****3/4 for me. Spectacular match, and in irony sense, we were given 2 more great LMS matchs that year, in Taker-Batista & Orton-Hunter. 2007 = The year of Last Man Standing.
That's... not irony.

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Finally catching up on NXT, and Cesaro/Neville was 1st, which was pretty awesome. ***1/2 I'd give it.

Btw, what are your opinions on this "indie-hunt" the WWE has been going - more espefically Adam Cole, Mike Bennett, Samuray del Sol ( ), Davey Richards ( ) and Colt as a commentator?

Personally, it is a good initiative considering the number of indie guys currently in the roster: Punk, Bryan, Ambrose, Rollins, Bourne, Cesaro, Ohno, Neville, Zayn, Graves... If only they sent Sin Cara into NXT to adapt to the WWE style and repackaged him though.



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Del Sol is coming?

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They are in contract negotiations with all of those I mentioned, so I hope yeah.



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Finally catching up on NXT, and Cesaro/Neville was 1st, which was pretty awesome. ***1/2 I'd give it.

Btw, what are your opinions on this "indie-hunt" the WWE has been going - more espefically Adam Cole, Mike Bennett, Samuray del Sol ( ), Davey Richards ( ) and Colt as a commentator?

Personally, it is a good initiative considering the number of indie guys currently in the roster: Punk, Bryan, Ambrose, Rollins, Bourne, Cesaro, Ohno, Neville, Zayn, Graves... If only they sent Sin Cara into NXT to adapt to the WWE style and repackaged him though.
I love Cole but he's really small. Like to me he comes off even smaller than Bryan does. I'm sure they could do something good with him though, the guy's only 23 and has nothing but upside. Great mic skills too. Del Sol's a fucking blast to watch and I think he'd do much better than Sin Cara has if they just take their time, especially since he's actually wrestled for an extended period here in the states. Bennett would thrive in the 'E, simple as that. Davey? Fuck off. Colt would be a badass commentator. I enjoyed him on EVOLVE 18.

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Del Sol is legit. He'll amaze fans once he shows up.

Cole would be a good pick up but bad for the Indies. He's destined to be the new golden child with how good he is at such a young age. WWE can like his look, but I could go either way with where he stays. He just signed a new ROH contract so I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon.

Colt was a miss by WWE and then some. Having him back in any role would appease me.

Bennett is tailor made for WWE. Almost certain he'll be signed.

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La Parka/El Dandy/Psicosis v. SUWA/Magnum Tokyo/Shima Nobunaga (Nitro whoGIVESafuckwhen)
If la Parka, el Dandy and Psicosis are not the best trio in the history of wrestling……fuck….la Parka, el Dandy and Psicosis are the best trio in the history of wrestling. How could you *possibly* come up with a better team of three guys than that? I get the idea that if I watched more SUWA he’d be one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, and that’s because he’s a grade A dickhead. Unfortunately he doesn’t get to be the dickhead here, but you can see he still has personality. Parka ruled this. Tokyo goes for a dropkick and MID-DROPKICK, Parka kicks his fucking leg to make him tumble. Spectacular. Similarly Psicosis dropkicks the top rope when Nobunaga tries a springboard and Shima goes down. Dive train when people are flinging heads into barricades on impact, Parka takes a Psicosis bump on a turnbuckle, Psic takes the best bump from a top rope spin kick EVER. Bliss. This was soooo much fun.

La Parka/Ciclope v. Rick & Scott Steiner (Saturday Night 5/31/97)
Cool for 100 seconds or however long it was. Steiners throwing dudes around and Parka bumping big clotheslines will always be enjoyable. Parka cutting off Rick’s dog-ring-running (whatever the fuck) with an enzuigiri was probably the best part (and it was the first move in the match). Bit of an awkward ending.

La Parka v. Buff Bagwell (Thunder 3/29/00)
Still during Parka’s ‘It’s Not Me’ promo period. The voice says Bagwell has a George Clooney haircut and says he’ll kick Bagwell’s “jacked up ass”. All while Parka drops the mic and pulls a sign from his jacket that reads “I’m sorry”, with “I’m not really saying this” on the other side. IDK why you’d book an angle like that. I mean every simpleton and lamebrain can tell it isn’t Parka on the mic; it makes the wrestlers look like brainless goofballs for believing it. OR DOES IT? Park gets Bagwell to believe him, does the ‘oh sheesh, oh thank you, I’m so glad you know now’ shtick, they hug, shake hands and embrace, and then Park LEVELS him. I think Heenan is right about him being a master ventriloquist. Parka was a pretty great bump machine here. He takes another Psicosis bump, does the ‘turned him inside-out’ sell of an elbow, and pretty much fucking spikes himself on his OWN split-legged moonsault. Heenan said it looked like he kind of speared Bagwell on the way down and if you can imagine a split-legged spear to a prone man’s arm, well that’s a pretty good way to describe it. I still don’t think I’m doing it justice. Bagwell sold the opening cheapshot shockingly well, but seemed kind of gassed, which really stands out in a match this short. Parka also tries to get out of a sunset flip by using his strut, by the fucking way. Fuck. This is why Park is the greatest.

La Parka/Silver King v. Bobby Eaton/Kenny Kaos (Saturday Night 1/9/99)
Do you know how many times I’ve thought to myself ‘I want to see la Parka and Bobby Eaton match up’? Zero. Do you know how much I want to see la Parka and Bobby Eaton match up now? A hell of a lot, and it delivers pretty well. Most guys will throw a clothesline to Park after he struts to them. Bobby Eaton just throws an amazing slap and shoves him toward the mat. Eaton was still an awesome seller in 1999, apparently, and it’s even more impressive when you consider the fact that’s he’s called on to work in a babyface tag team with a random Power Plant guy. Kaos was a fine big dude who wipes people out, and I wished Eaton played FIP for all of this before tagging him, because he seems like a natural hot tag guy (also Eaton’s selling rules enough to be FIP, which we saw in flashes here). Oddly enough there seemed to be, like, three two minute FIP spells (and one including Parka playing FIP…..). Why do that? Oh well, this got enough time to deliver something cool and it did. Park’s double team double stomp to Eaton was great.

La Parka v. Juventud Guerrera (Nitro 3/24/97)
Well he did it. La Parka finally did it. He broke me. I knew somewhere, some way, there was a la Parka spot that would break me. And it was here. He did it. I have no words for this. He catches Juvi’s attempt at a crossbody, and struts. He just struts. He just struts……with a fucking man..…in his arms. Honestly, this was an awesome five minute match, with awesome performances, from two awesome wrestlers. But I have no words for it. He broke me. I can never think of anything the same way again.

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Del Sol vs. Cesaro. Oh my goodness.

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