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@BEAST np man @lilOME thanks its so weird watching matches and not ** them I almost forgot how to with doing so

gonna get off here and enjoy this matches

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Can't really think of too many "bad" Scott Steiner matches. Even from TNA. He was always pretty fun to watch in the ring. Perhaps I like the guy a lot, but meh. I stand by it.

Leaping Frankensteiner from the late 80's & early 90's is unreal.
No, you're right, it's not even subjective. He was fantastic. It's just that my perception of him was based on what people say about his more current character, and the "Getting wrestling advice from Scott Steiner" thing that shows up on the side of profiles. It makes it seem like Scott is a shit wrestler or something.

I totally had no memory of him back in his younger days, except I do remember him coming out in the collegiate jacket. I just didn't remember much of his WWE run for some reason (and I didn't watch WCW back then).

So when I watched him in the Hart match, I was completely blown away. It's like, I was being blown away, not only by a wrestler being absurdly excellent (he was), but also blown away because my perception of him was totally different, just based on the comments of people.

I mentioned in another thread that I was genuinely confused, and thought that Scott Steiner must be Rick Steiner. When I realized that the long haired dude really was Scott, it just couldn't compute for me. I kept looking up different sources, thinking that I must be wrong. For real! lol.

Anyway, because of all of that, I've started looking up his more recent stuff, and I agree with you. He was still good and better than people give him credit for, as the roided up dude. Plus, I love his promos, and his Twitter rants had me seriously LOL'ing.

Basically, he's quickly become one of my favorite wrestlers ever. As the younger version of himself, he's one of my favorite pure wrestlers ever (and I'd say, seriously rivals or betters any of the known "best wrestlers"). And as the older version, he's one of the most entertaining characters to me.

A total win, all because I was randomly checking out old Hart matches, lol.

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And you're right about the leaping Frankensteiner, but have you seen the old Steiner pilerdriver? Not the way he did it relatively recently in TNA, but the one he did on Owen was just nasty. You could tell that Gorilla Monsoon was genuinely blown away.

He was a damn creative wrestler, and had a ton of stuff in his arsenal.

He really should get more praise.

Also, to me, he's a classic case of bullshit politics, because there's no reason why he couldn't be contributing to a major company right now. He's much better in every way than a lot of old folks who stick around, and you can tell that he genuinely is a fan of young talent.

There's a lot more to say on this, but eh.

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almost forgot the "Hi I'm Dolph Ziggler" stick he use to have. I remember his segment with hbk and rey lol, if only Shawn and him had one match, would be on cloud 9 for days


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No, you're right, it's not even subjective. He was fantastic. It's just that my perception of him was based on what people say about his more current character, and the "Getting wrestling advice from Scott Steiner" thing that shows up on the side of profiles. It makes it seem like Scott is a shit wrestler or something.

I totally had no memory of him back in his younger days, except I do remember him coming out in the collegiate jacket. I just didn't remember much of his WWE run for some reason (and I didn't watch WCW back then).

So when I watched him in the Hart match, I was completely blown away. It's like, I was being blown away, not only by a wrestler being absurdly excellent (he was), but also blown away because my perception of him was totally different, just based on the comments of people.

I mentioned in another thread that I was genuinely confused, and thought that Scott Steiner must be Rick Steiner. When I realized that the long haired dude really was Scott, it just couldn't compute for me. I kept looking up different sources, thinking that I must be wrong. For real! lol.

Anyway, because of all of that, I've started looking up his more recent stuff, and I agree with you. He was still good and better than people give him credit for, as the roided up dude. Plus, I love his promos, and his Twitter rants had me seriously LOL'ing.

Basically, he's quickly become one of my favorite wrestlers ever. As the younger version of himself, he's one of my favorite pure wrestlers ever (and I'd say, seriously rivals or betters any of the known "best wrestlers'). And as the older versions, he's one of the most entertaining characters to me.

A total win, all because I was randomly checking out old Hart matches, lol.
Scott's WWE (not F) tenure is a bit marred thanks to what he was given and did upon first arriving. The pairing up vs a completely awful Triple H did not make for a good combo. Scott himself was really bad vs him too. The rest of his run was fine. Nothing I'd describe as bad or incredibly memorable, although once he moved away from Trips it was much better. Program vs Test bred some good matches.

His work in latter WCW too was worth a look. I'm talking like the 2000 days. Specifically against Goldberg, Mike Awesome, & generally any other match where he got to squash someone. He squashed four guys one night and put them in a Steiner Recliner all on top of each other. Considering how much you seem to dig Scott Steiner, I'd say you should go scope it out asap. If you haven't stumbled upon it already.

Have you see Steiners vs Nasty Boys from Halloween Havoc '90?

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Scott's WWE (not F) tenure is a bit marred thanks to what he was given and did upon first arriving. The pairing up vs a completely awful Triple H did not make for a good combo. Scott himself was really bad vs him too. The rest of his run was fine. Nothing I'd describe as bad or incredibly memorable, although once he moved away from Trips it was much better. Program vs Test bred some good matches.

His work in latter WCW too was worth a look. I'm talking like the 2000 days. Specifically against Goldberg, Mike Awesome, & generally any other match where he got to squash someone. He squashed four guys one night and put them in a Steiner Recliner all on top of each other. Considering how much you seem to dig Scott Steiner, I'd say you should go scope it out asap. If you haven't stumbled upon it already.

Have you see Steiners vs Nasty Boys from Halloween Havoc '90?
Yeah, I heard a wrestler commenting on this in a shoot. I think that it was Lance Storm. He said that he felt that Scott was used as a scapegoat, since both Scott and Triple H were coming off of major injuries. He said that Scott was put into those main event matches way too soon, before he had even recovered. He didn't understand why Scott seemed to have gotten most of the blame (don't know if this is accurate, as to who got blamed at the time, just relaying what he said).

Yeah, I saw a match against Goldberg that I liked. What's the where he squashed four guys in one night?

No, I haven't seen the Nasty Boys match. Checking it out now!
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I'M IN THE LEAD

Seriously, if I win I can do Savage-Benoit, Hansen-Misawa, & Kawada-Tsuruta in the next round. KEEP IT COMIN'.

Back to MATCH related news; fuck the WWE for not giving Hardy & Henry a ton of time at Summerslam 2008, opting to let them tear shit up on ECW a few days later. Anybody have a link to the FULL ECW scramble match from Unforgiven 2008 & not chopped up into parts, would be greatly appreciated as I realized that I need to watch that before I tackle the No Mercy match.

@lilOlMe, here's the Steiner Vs 4 guys link. CAL was actually the guy who uploaded it .

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw5...t#.UcKGlvksnjU





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Have you see Steiners vs Nasty Boys from Halloween Havoc '90?
Only three minutes into this, Obfuscation, and I'm already :shock at the way Scott gets out of the Superplex, and then reverses it.

The man is amazing.

Sucks for him that he came along when the tag division wasn't as strong in the WWF in the early-mid 90s. If he were around in the late 80s, he would have been beastin' in the WWF.

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@lilOlMe, here's the Steiner Vs 4 guys link. CAL was actually the guy who uploaded it .

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw5...t#.UcKGlvksnjU
Thanks so much, going to watch this after!

I should do a Scott Steiner appreciation thread one of these days, lol...
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Literally have seen a bad cesaro/sin cara match yet watching all of them

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Evan did you watch the No DQ Hardy/Henry I posted from a house show in 2008? Maybe I was just blown away by the fact I'd heard of it, but I thought it wasn't far off of their best match together (which is 8/19/08 unless I'm missing some more. Still haven't watched 12/30/08, I don't think. They had one in early 09, as well).

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Someone asked for a 'fun' match, yeah? HERE is your answer. Also random plug for Scorpio v. Al Snow (or whatever name he had then) at Survivor Series 96. And that Henry/Tajiri from 02 Evan found is mind blowing levels of fun. I can't think of a sub-five minute I like more. Then again my memory isn't the best for match times.

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Taker & Big Show vs. Mankind & Rock is so fun. I believe it was buried alive too, hilarious.
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