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post #16621 of 20998 (permalink) Old 06-17-2013, 08:29 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

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So are you saying I can't have an opinion on someone else's ratings? Or is that just an opinion?
Unless you're suggesting that you're the standard bearer for what all ratings should be (which is a ridiculous concept anyway) then no. You can have your own/different opinion on the match, but telling others what their ratings should be is silly. I don't care to discuss this any further because it's ridiculous.

Back on topic...I watched Henry vs Orton NOC for the first time last night. Holy fuck that was epic, the crowd was lapping it up too. Henry's initial control segment was excellent and Orton sold the offence with the required amount of respect. Loads of really stiff collisions. It didn't suffer from the drawn out pauses/rests that some of Mark's matches do either, that was probably because Henry spent the breaks toying with Orton in what seemed like an attempt to portray dominance through mind games. I loved the idea that the match generally represented a power switch and not just through the actual result. The little tease for the RKO before the end was well done too, Orton thought he had it and Henry was like "not today bitch", just summed up the match to a tee.

It's a shame that I stopped watching WWE at the time because of the convoluted Punk/Nash/HHH mess, wish I had persisted now. Powerslam said the match was poor at the time and that the crowd groaned when the "unover" Henry won. In reality there was a mix of shock and cheers. That's Powerslam though, they have a huge agenda against Henry and always have done even since 1999.

I might look up some Henry squash matches later when I'm less busy...



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ADR/Ziggler was quite outstanding. Probably the best told match of either man's career. Not necessarily the "best" match, but certainly the most meaningful. In a sense that this match really felt important. It felt like a truly monumental moment. Not on the grand scheme of wrestling history, but monumental in current WWE for these two wrestlers. Something that both men usually struggle to capture. Most ADR (&/or) Ziggler matches are just 'there'. This felt special.

The double-turn worked really well and it's probably the first time since his arrival that ADR has really 'fit' a character. If he can keep this momentum, he might finally click with the audience. I just hope they've got something planned for Ziggler. He's finally got some real traction after last night. I could definitely get behind a face run, based off the fact that Ziggler's heel work has been pretty bland for the longest of times, and his style is more conducive to a sympathetic reaction anyway.

AJ/Kaitlyn - ***
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Shield/RK-NO - ***1/2
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Very solid PPV. I could probably watch the whole thing again today without fast-forwarding (until the main-event).

Great to have Punk back as well.

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gonna rewatch Punk/Jericho and the tag match today. I can settle with ziggler/del rio being around the ***3/4 range, great character and storytelling work but kinda bummed del rio won and is consistently getting accolades when a piece of paper is more interesting

It was the first watch and I probably was caught up in the return, but I thought the punk match was awesome and better than wm and ex. Crowd really helped

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

At first I thought Payback was going to be a classic PPV. I was actually contemplating buying it on DVD. But, imo, it's nowhere near Extreme Rules 2012 quality.

I wonder if WWE would ever be able to churn out another PPV like it? Extreme Rules 2012 that is.

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Havnt watched the PPV yet, probably won't for a bit yet, but alot of people were saying on another forum about Punk's condition, and saying he looked raggy, what did you guys think.

Understandable if true considering he's been out for a while.
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I wonder if WWE would ever be able to churn out another PPV like it? Extreme Rules 2012 that is.
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Havnt watched the PPV yet, probably won't for a bit yet, but alot of people were saying on another forum about Punk's condition, and saying he looked raggy, what did you guys think.

Understandable if true considering he's been out for a while.
He looked a bit out of breath at times (maybe it was apart of the Storyline) but the reactions he had to Paul Heyman were interesting. It wasn't a classic but it was a fine match made better by the crowd.

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Havnt watched the PPV yet, probably won't for a bit yet, but alot of people were saying on another forum about Punk's condition, and saying he looked raggy, what did you guys think.

Understandable if true considering he's been out for a while.
If you ask me, that was easily the worst match of the night, on par with Kane/Ambrose. A true let down and an extremely dull disappointment, nowhere near the quality of their WM match.
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If you ask me, that was easily the worst match of the night, on par with Kane/Ambrose. A true let down and an extremely dull disappointment, nowhere near the quality of their WM match.


Definitely wasn't as bad as Kane/Ambrose or Cena/Ryback. Now take a look at ryback. That was being winded. But I do agree with you that punk/Jericho was a disappointment. With those two talents they should easily be putting on 4 star matches.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

From what I really paid attention to.

PAYBACK

Triple threat IC title match

Axel vs. Barrett vs. Miz - *** Solid match that didn't really stall, plenty of counters.. loved the finish.

Kaitlyn vs. AJ; Divas title - **** on a curved scale for divas.. best divas match I've seen in a few years..

Ambrose vs. Kane; U.S. title - ** piss poor match, some decent moments just didn't click.

Del rio vs. Ziggler ; WHC - ***3/4 would bump it higher if I can watch it and not cringe and think WWE put Ziggler in danger.. maybe Ziggler is that good but I'm really sensitive with concussions.. Great story if Ziggler is okay.

Punk vs. Jericho - ***1/4 Never really got out of second gear to me, Punk had some ring rust.
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