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Quick summaries of what I watched from 2005-2007.

Rey/Eddie holds up, obviously. There was never any doubt that I'll have 6/23 top ten. Judgment Day is getting a vote from me. Loved it. When I watched GAB last year I came out kind of disappointed, and I'm guessing I was just in a mood because I dug it almost as much as ever on this watch. The brainbuster on the second set of three amigos is a spot I totally forgot about and it kind of took me aback. I'd agree with jawbreaker that's it's the weakest of the three and I won't be throwing it a vote, but it is, in fact, awesome.

Cena v. JBL I Quit was kinda bleh. Very run-of-the-mill and average WWE area 'brawling' before Cena gets awesome and fires away at Bradshaw's back. Everything post-chair shot was better, but I didn't love it. The TV spot was completely lame and the table spot was even lamer. It had it's moments like JBL constantly wrapping things around Cena's throat (and Cena looking like he was dying), and Cena throwing Bradshaw into the limo door before ripping it off with his own hands, but this had too much shit I didn't give a shit about.

I liked Benoit/Regal 7/16/05 more this time, but I'm not going to vote for a less violent, less awesome, and more commercial-filled version of their No Mercy match when their No Mercy match is right there. Still a super match and I wouldn't be surprised if it made lists.

Edge/Hardy at Unforgiven is on the list, but near the bottom. I'll always dislike Edge's Christopher Daniels-y 'I've been knocked out for two seconds' selling on every hit he takes, but this might be career performance. He finds cool ways to use the cage and tries to bail out of the cage on Irish whips. This is kind of a Hardy show, though. He looked like the #1 guy in the company, and Matt getting to have his revenge for everything was beautiful. Also I fucking hate Lita's voice. Does she seriously sing in a band? She has the worst fucking female voice I've ever heard.

HHH/Batista Cell holds up pretty well, but it's more 'very good' than 'great'. I really liked how each weapon seemed like a dangerous and violent tool instead of a WWE prop, and stuff like a couple of the chain shots looked nasty. Probably a top 3 cell match, but there's only one cell I'd say is 'four stars' so I guess it isn't saying a huge bunch.

Rey/Orton 4/7/06 and Benoit/Finlay 5/5/06 blew me away. The former was a match that I thought went the tiiiiiiiiniest bit down while I watching 2006 consistently, but I loved it as much as ever here. Orton having counters for all of Rey's signatures was gorgeous. Face-planting him on bulldog attempts, drop-kicking him on springboards, uhhh some other shit. Rey plays the babyface being forced to sell, so you know how that is. Yeah amazing match. Benoit/Finlay 5/5 I don't think I have ever liked this much. Just a total rough-housing. They spend a good amount of time on the mat, and it all look unco-operative and stiff. Every hold looked hard-earned and none of it looked choreographed in the least. That's all I ask for. The two best matches during SmackDown's GODYEAR. I will have both of these ahead of HHH/Foley and Austin/Angle.

Benoit/Finlay Judgment Day holds up, classic match, top ten lock, etc. etc.

Benoit/Regal No Mercy holds up, great match, maybe top half, etc. etc.

Cena/Umaga LMS holds up, terrific match, top 5 WWE of the decade, maybe top 25 overall, etc. etc.

Cena/Michaels at Mania doesn't hold up. Well, I still think it's really good so it does 'hold up', but it doesn't live up to when I last watched it. The beginning was really great. Cena throws his gigantic fists, Michaels ducks every one of them and chops away. Cena was awesome selling the leg. Yeah you heard me. While Shawn was going after it he was selling and holding it and shaking and it was great. There's been tonnes of shit about him no-selling it afterward, but I didn't see that. For ONE - Michaels stopped working the leg long before Cena stopped selling it. FOR TWO - Cena was selling it between getting his offense in. For THREE - even after hitting his running shoulder-block he was selling it. So yah. Other stuff.....the ref bump didn't look stupid. Nasty piledriver on the steps. I didn't bother finishing the match. I knew I wasn't going to rank it so I stopped it. I really don't have much bad to say about this, other than it isn't really great. Since when is 'not great' a bad thing to say though? 'Great' doesn't come all that often.

Well 'great' does come with the Raw re-match. Great, great match. Cena ruled. I love that the headlock was clearly to bide time, but also looked great. Cena's superhero body builder arms really look like they have enough strength behind them to squeeze you brain out of your nostrils. He sells the body part maybe even better here. I loved when he yelled at his own shoulder to stop giving him trouble. Michaels was good and his old man exhaustion selling comes off way better in a lengthy match, but this was John Cena shifting from John Cena to John Motherfucking Cena. I said Rey/Chavo might be my #100 and this is right above it, so it could finish near the tail end.

Finlay/Hardy 6/22/07 and Finlay/Rey 11/9/07 are both on the list. The former will be high. The latter is something I didn't think I would vote for, but fuck it; I liked it more this time. Will be pretty high, not as high. Really, really great match. Million stars. Motherfucking Finlay.

Rey v. Noble from the week before Rey/Finlay is really goddamn good. I can't vote for it, but if someone did I wouldn't put a stink up. Noble does some neat and creative offense and Rey is forced to babyface sell. MILLION STARS!!!! If this was the WWF poll I'd consider it.

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^^^ great review, I am probably the only person that has not seen cena/umaga LMS since i stopped watching wwe at the begin of this feud and got back in it in 2011 ,might watch it if Im not doing anything tonite. Love the hbk/cena series and have it in my top 5 mania matches. I think the raw match is in my top 5 raw matches as well, Cena's 2nd best series of matches

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^^^ great review, I am probably the only person that has not seen cena/umaga LMS since i stopped watching wwe at the begin of this feud and got back in it in 2011 ,might watch it if Im not doing anything tonite. Love the hbk/cena series and have it in my top 5 mania matches. I think the raw match is in my top 5 raw matches as well, Cena's 2nd best series of matches


Cena/Umaga is definitely a MUST WATCH. In fact I'm gonna rewatch this match over the weekend! RIP Umaga

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Finally got around to watching Elimination Chamber 2013 on Blu-ray. I watched it live but wasn't really paying attention. My review:

World Heavyweight Championship: Alberto Del Rio vs. The Big Show
Like a lot of people, I was confused why, after two LMS matches, they were having a straight match, but it wasn't until after this match that I realized it was so that Del Rio could get a clean victory and look really strong going into WM. This is obviously different from the two LMS matches, but it's still quite good. Show can bump so well, Del Rio can wrestle, the pace never let up. This was a good title match, a good opener, and very entertaining. Only nitpick: there was a sequence that was straight out of a match Show had with Jericho just three nights before, and it was odd how the commentators made such a big deal of it.

***1/4

United States Championship: Antonio Cesaro vs. The Miz
Another match that never let up. Miz looked great here, there were some really inventive moves, and the crowd was into it. I think considering that this feud never really got much resolution, we should have had a clean finish here. The non-finish would have worked better on TV. Still, solid match.

**3/4

Elimination Chamber Match: Randy Orton vs. Jack Swagger vs. Chris Jericho vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Kane vs. Mark Henry
Okay, given the competitors, this should have been a MOTYC...it isn't. Not even close. It is solid, though. You get some great wresting from Y2J and Bryan, Henry is great as the monster as always, Orton looked like he could win it, and Swagger looked strong yet his win was still a shocker. The match just never switched into another gear. Not a "disappointment," but not as good as it could have been.

***1/4

John Cena, Sheamus, & Ryback vs. The Shield
The Shield is soooo good. Their matches are just crisp, vicious, exciting, you name it. This started strong and never let up. Cena as the fip was perfect, especially since the action remained exciting. The finish was definitely a shocker.

***1/2

Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Zigger
Filler incarnate. The finish was cool, Ziggler looks strong going into WM, and Big E gets some nice screen time.

**

Divas Championship: Kaitylyn vs. Tamina
Decent women's match. Nothing to write home about or rip apart.

**

WWE Championship: The Rock vs. CM Punk
Personally, I liked the RR match better. I thought it hit all the right notes, was never boring, and the finish made sense. But given what it was hyped up to be, and what it could have been, I understand the hate. This match was okay, but the ending sequence was fun. Way too many restholds, it felt like the match was 75% restholds. The definitely shockers were Punk kicking out of the rock bottom and Punk having Rock beat clean for about 30 seconds. That's what I appreciate Rock coming back. Rock could win the match, but Punk looked incredibly strong coming out of it. And I still think it's awesome to see Rock, an international movie star, wrestling CM Punk for the WWE Title. Decent main event.

***


All in all, this was a solid show. 2013 had been a great year for WWE and WWE ppvs.

Favorite Matches of All Time

1. Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit - WrestleMania XX

2. Career Threatening Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair - WrestleMania XXIV

3. WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank 2011

4. No Holds Barred Match: The Undertaker vs. Triple H - WrestleMania XXVII

5. WWF Championship: Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania VI
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Ambrose/Bryan is pretty good. Ambrose with his selling is pretty great, especially his selling of Bryan's kicks to the back (which did look nasty). I guess I understand the Kofi run-in, but I'm still not sure if I like it. AMBROSE STILL WON THOUGH.

Michael Cole still blows. (About Ambrose) "He's a strange dude."

Also think it's no surprise that Ambrose is only one (I think) who's been given singles time, not to mention they put him with Taker, and gave him time to get offense in, no less.

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Cena v. JBL I Quit was kinda bleh. Very run-of-the-mill and average WWE area 'brawling' before Cena gets awesome and fires away at Bradshaw's back. Everything post-chair shot was better, but I didn't love it. The TV spot was completely lame and the table spot was even lamer. It had it's moments like JBL constantly wrapping things around Cena's throat (and Cena looking like he was dying), and Cena throwing Bradshaw into the limo door before ripping it off with his own hands, but this had too much shit I didn't give a shit about.


Watched it last time was thinking to myself it was typical WWE gimmick type stuff. I can put over a Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Charlie Haas match on the same PPV which I thought were better overall. Not to mention I liked Cena vs JBL stuff from '08 WAY more than I did in '05. Judgment Day '08 included. I have a lot of fun watching it. Don't get me started on their NYC parking lot brawl. I love that match too much for words.

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Watched Piper/Goldie again. Might as well face it, such a fuckin' good drug.
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I share your love for that match too. Well, match may be a bit of a stretch, but that's what makes it so rad.

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cena/umaga LMS ****1/2

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I share your love for that match too. Well, match may be a bit of a stretch, but that's what makes it so rad.

Took a break from Taker's Tombstone doc (shamefully was I bored).

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