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Old 05-08-2013, 05:45 PM   #11831 (permalink)
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Batista/Trips HIAC. Every time I see this thing it manages to get even more gruesome. I can't believe half the shit they pulled in this match and I was suddenly struck with the thought that so many people were going crazy for two men bleeding like stuck pigs and hitting each other with barbed wire. And they say we have evolved as a species since the days of the Gladiators . My random thought of the day. Moving on....this match is just fantastic and I mean fantastic. So brutal with the chain whipping and the barbed wire steel chair shots to both the back and head to name but a few. I love the underlying sentiment that Batista is champion, he has beat HHH but he's still unproven to some degree and that THIS is where he's going to earn his stripes. Then you've got the whole HHH undefeated in the cell thing and the fact that this is their third match together. Something's got to give. I'm almost inclined to go the full 5* on this but something is holding me back. I mean, it's truly awesome but not a perfect match. It's not a 4.5* match either because it's better than that so naturally that makes it a comfortable ****3/4.

So glad I bought this HIAC set. Going to watch some UNDERTAKER tomorrow.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:48 PM   #11832 (permalink)
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Must spend B-Day money on wrestling dvds.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:50 PM   #11833 (permalink)
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just watched Hunter/Brock ss 12 again and gosh its such a polarizing match, you either love it or hate it, I am in the loving it category ****1/4-1/2. Brock selling of the stomach
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Brock/Trips SS is ****1/4 for me. I've yet to watch their Mania match since Mania itself so I can't really speak on that. Intrigued by their cage match tbh. We'll see how it goes.
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That last part reminds me of one of my favorite all time matches when KENTA tries to destroy his arm at GBH. I just saw that Hero defense for the first time a few days ago and I wasn't expecting much* and it was incredible. ****1/4+

*because their match in '09 in PWG sucked imo. One rare instance of trying to make epic happen and it not happening.
Ah, forgot the KENTA matches. Yes the first encounter (Glory By Honor V Night II I think) is tremendous and a lot of that is down to one of Danielson's finest performances. I'm generally not a huge fan of KENTA bar when he works against the heavyweights as I find his offence far more engrossing and think he's underrated in shining in that environment, though stick him with someone closer to his size and I generally struggle to like much bar the great SUWA match from NOAH in '05. Still, he was perfect as the international sensation picking apart a broken and fragile champion but Danielson's herculean effort in wrestling back control of the match marked a defining moment in his title reign. The fact he was still able to work afterwards as a cocky heel is exemplary and testament to his ability to portray a true champion here but not evoke a necessary face turn.

Haven't seen the Hero '09 match for some time (Guerre Sans Frontieres?) but I really dug their BOLA 11/2/08 match. 15 minutes and sees Danielson coming in with a damaged leg. Hero is great in respectfully choosing to stay away from the leg before immediately seizing upon it once Danielson gets the better of him. From there you get Hero as the vicious, methodical and brutal dissector and Danielson working underneath and trying to find a way to overcome certain defeat. Even the Danielson dive spot works through its timing as Danielson having to use everything to try and put Hero down, even at the expense of the leg.

Danielson/Low Ki from JAPW '02 is also an overlooked but wonderful Danielson match. Its a submission match and the camera angle is right underneath the action and you get to see the intricacies of every escape and counter. Unlike your typical indy mat wrestling though there's a real sense of bite and struggle in every transition (think Benoit/Finlay esque) and as a result it becomes highly engrossing and not a choreographed exhibition. If you haven't seen it I'd highly recommend it if you could obtain a link since its seemingly hard to track down.
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Sorry I just couldn't stand both Brock/HHH matches. Probably because it could be so so much better. This was a dream match in 02. Id give they're SS match ***1/4 rating.
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Yeah vs Hero is from Guerre Sans Frontier. KENTA vs the big guys, as you say, is gold. Him vs Kobashi x2, vs Takayama x2, w/Kobashi vs Nakajima/Sasaki, and vs Tenryu are also some of my favorites. Can't get enough of solid big guy vs little guy action. I'll look for that Lo Ki match you mentioned.
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Yeah vs Hero is from Guerre Sans Frontier. KENTA vs the big guys, as you say, is gold. Him vs Kobashi x2, vs Takayama x2, w/Kobashi vs Nakajima/Sasaki, and vs Tenryu are also some of my favorites. Can't get enough of solid big guy vs little guy action. I'll look for that Lo Ki match you mentioned.
The Takayama & Tenryu matches are my favourites out of those you mentioned, but I've heard good stuff about the Kobashi match so I'll make a note to try and watch it soon. The Takayama and Tenryu matches are wonderful though. Both Takayama and Tenryu know how to brutalise a smaller opponent and rough him up and in Tenryu's case you get an array of brilliant facial expressions and subtle little touches whilst Takayama goes for generally more harrowing knee strikes.

The Ki match is great and I'm confident you'd dig it. Much better than their Final Battle '04 match and likely superior to their '02 singles match (can't remember the show name but Shamrock was the special guest referee).
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