[Austin101]

Length doesen't matter a whole lot when talking about 5 star matches, Savage and Steamboat is only 14 minutes. But in just 14 minutes I think they accomplished more from a story standpoint then Flair and Steamboat ever did in any match so that is even more to there credit I'd imagine.





Power Trip vs Y2J-Benoit **** 3/4 (Absolutely)

[Andy3000]

Originally Posted by Taroostyles

They've had 2 tag matches in TNA that were both under 10 minutes and I've got one at ***3/4 and the other at ***1/2, pretty impressive stuff.

That 12 man elim tag is so gonna own.

I really, REALLY should make a point of checking out their TNA stuff. The TV schedule over here with the company is so completely fucked up that's it hard as hell to try and follow though.

They're my favourite thing about the entire Dragon gate promotion, having followed it for almost 3 years now, and you seriously should check out their ROH tag stuff. I wonder if even KIF can appreciate how good those matches are (the regular 2 on 2 matches, I mean).

And just to make it clear, time has absolutely no effect on my low-ish rating for the Benoit & Jericho/Power Trip tag.

[Taroostyles]

I've seen some of their ROH stuff, the 6 man from DGC I is pretty awesome. I think it's them and Cima vs Evans/Strong/Aries, I haven't watched it in awhile but I'm pretty sure.

Im with you on that boat Austin, Awesome/Tanaka is probably my favorite all time match and it's like 13 minutes long but it feels like it's 25 minutes long. That's a pretty damn good accomplishment.

[Austin101]

It'll always be different strokes for some matches but whenever I see one get a lot of love or a lot of hate, I definately take what people say into account the next time I watch it to see if it changes my mind. It usually always helps me decide on a rating as I listen to every opinion but in the end it's always me that decides on MY RATING as it should be with everyone else.

Watched Flair vs Race in the Cage last night.

That Starrcade 83 match is a classic for its time but it hasn't aged well. This is about the 10th time I've seen it now and I still feel that it's completely overrated by some and completely underrated by others.

I've seen it rated from ** 1/4 to ***** I shit you not, and I'll give out my rating when I review Disc 1 later on.

[Andy3000]

That Flair/Race cage match definitely, like you said, goes up and down on the snowflake scale like crazy.

I've got it at ****-****1/4 (can't remember since the last time I watched it), but Kiniski bugged the shit out of me most of the match.

[Word]

Ummm, anyone got the new Flair DVD?

[Andy3000]

Originally Posted by Word

Ummm, anyone got the new Flair DVD?

Started downloading it a couple days ago, but I'm just gonna buy it anyway so I figure I'll wait. You watched any of the matches yet, or still just the doc?

[HBKBretHart]

Someone posted it on youtube.

[Word]

Originally Posted by Andy3000

Started downloading it a couple days ago, but I'm just gonna buy it anyway so I figure I'll wait. You watched any of the matches yet, or still just the doc?

Seen the doc. and I wasn't so Impressed. I think the end was cut off where it talks about 'WWE'. Disc 2 fucked up on me and I have watched all of Disc 3 which is just matches with no Flair involvement at all.

[KeepItFresh]

Originally Posted by Andy3000

They're my favourite thing about the entire Dragon gate promotion, having followed it for almost 3 years now, and you seriously should check out their ROH tag stuff. I wonder if even KIF can appreciate how good those matches are (the regular 2 on 2 matches, I mean).

I watched one full Dragon Gate show, took me 6 months to finish it so it doesn't matter what they do I just don't care when they face eachother.

I, however liked when they were facing ROH wrestlers and they actually had a story that they didn't give up on half way through the match. Dragon Gate Challenge had some nice tag matches.