[stinger-splash]

My greatest: (North America)
in order

1)HBK
2)Flair
3)Austin
4)Randy Savage
5)The Rock
6)Bret Hart
7)Ricky Steamboat
8)Hulk Hogan
9)Owen Hart
10)Sting
11)Angle
12)Taker
13)Mr. Perfect
14) Chris Benoit
15) HHH

[kennedy=god]

Originally Posted by Austin101

Billy Graham

Repped!

Awesome that you included Superstar, he wasn't a GREAT worker (although he certainly wasn't bad), but i think he deserves to be in a 15-30 list purely because of the fact that wrestling altogether has just immitated him for the last 25 years (Hogan being the biggest immitator).

I think HBK will crawl up many peoples greatest of all-time list as time goes by, but right now i probably wouldn't put him above SCSA or Flair, although unlike those 2 he's still got a few years left to prove me wrong.

[Taroostyles]

Just to mention on what people were talking about a few pages back, I totally agree with those talking about Vader. To me, he was definitely the best big of all time and the only one who was close was Bam Bam.

I loved the Vader/HBK match from SS 96, shame that Michaels was in the prime of his prick days and refused to do the job when he should have.

He also has classics with Flair, Sting, Foley(many times), and he also has some really good matches from Japan. Does anybody know if him and Savage ever wrestled a high profile match? That matchup just seems to really intrigue me.

[bigcal]

As far as big men go:

1. The Undertaker
2. Vader
3. Bam Bam Bigelow

I could certainly see myself putting Vader above The Undertaker if I saw more of his work. I just really wish WWF didn't crap all over him when he was there. 1996 should have been the year of Vader as champ IMO.

[straightedge015]

Originally Posted by Austin101

That's a shit load of reading Ethan, good job. Enjoy those DVD's and looking forward to your reviews.

McQueen, glad you put Misawa, Steamboat and Austin in your top 10.

Bulldog vs Owen -Germany 1997 European title finals

**** 3/4 (Gets better and better every...single...time)


My Top 40 North American


Steve Austin
Randy Savage
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Ricky Steamboat
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Shawn Michaels
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guererro
Mr. Perfect
Owen Hart
Terry Funk
Brian Pillman
Triple H
Mick Foley
Vader
Kurt Angle
Chris Jericho
Arn Anderson
Sting
The Undertaker
Ted Dibiase
Jake Roberts
Rey Mysterio
Tully Blanchard
Barry Windham
Rick Rude
Dean Malenko
Nick Bockwinkel
Bam Bam
Magnum TA
Greg Valentine
Roddy Piper
Jimmy Snuka
Bob Backlund
Bruno Sammartino
Lou Tesz
Paul Orndorff
Billy Graham
Dusty Rhodes

No Harley Race?

[dan_marino]

My top ten list (in no order):

Ric Flair
Terry Funk
Shawn Micheals
Ricky Steamboat
Mr. Perfect
Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Undertaker
Owen Hart
Chris Benoit
Bret Hart

Randy Savage, Arn Anderson and Angle all come close.

[McQueen]

Originally Posted by bigcal

As far as big men go (300+ lbs):

1. The Undertaker
2. Vader
3. Bam Bam Bigelow

I could certainly see myself putting Vader above The Undertaker if I saw more of his work. I just really wish WWF didn't crap all over him when he was there. 1996 should have been the year of Vader as champ IMO.

My pics as far as big men:

Stan Hansen
Vader
Bam Bam Bigalow
Bruiser Brody
The Undertaker

If his prime was longer than just two years I probably would put Yoshihiro Takayama above Taker as well.

[KeepItFresh]

Shawn Michaels earned his 1996 title run, despite his attitude and whatnot. He shouldn't have jobbed to Vader at Summerslam, because it was HIS RUN. Seriously the guy could have been pushed to the title 92/93, but they waited until 1996 for his fullfledge run. Totally deserved despite what some of you are saying.

[bigcal]

I never said Shawn didn't deserve a title run, I was just saying that Vader also deserved a title run. Shawn had the belt for what, nearly 5 months already? By todays standards, and even back then, that would be a relatively long title run. If anything, Vader could have been given the title, then maybe had 1 PPV where he successfully defended it before losing it again to Shawn or whoever.

Best to try and move away from this subject though, or before we know it everyone will start listing guys that should have won a title in a certain year but didn't .

[kennedy=god]

I don't really think of Stan Hansen as a big man, i've only seen 5 or 6 of his matches but he didn't really look that big too me, more of "Brawlser" IMO.

I don't think i'd put Bam Bam or Brody over Undertaker, i'd say Taker & Vader are about equal, Vader in his prime was probably better, but Taker has just seemed to get better & better with age.

Race would easily get in my 40, probably top 20, he was a pretty brilliant worker back in his day, and he wasn't bad on the stick IMO