[Ownage™]

Originally Posted by .twinksy™

Not really, I'm pretty sure there's a good 13 years worth of spectacles that happened way before Cena even appeared on RAW.

I think it was Mac that said it, the only way they could save this DVD is if they have a lot of memorable segments in it, and hopefully they have nothing to do with Cena. He just had his own fucking DVD released this year, and he's taking over this one.

Not only is it too much Cena but most of his matches on the DVD aren't even worth watching.

The match I'm most disappointed to not see on there is HHH/HBK from 03.

[Undertaker777]

DVD = Better quality than downloads = > downloads

[KeepItFresh]

Originally Posted by Ownage™

Not only is it too much Cena but most of his matches on the DVD aren't even worth watching.

The match I'm most disappointed to not see on there is HHH/HBK from 03.

Already on HBK's set, but it would have been great to see it on here.

Still not upset about the match listing, though. Cena has been the biggest part of Raw for the last few years, so it should have been expected.

[-Mystery-]

Originally Posted by .twinksy™

Not really, I'm pretty sure there's a good 13 years worth of spectacles that happened way before Cena even appeared on RAW.

I think it was Mac that said it, the only way they could save this DVD is if they have a lot of memorable segments in it, and hopefully they have nothing to do with Cena. He just had his own fucking DVD released this year, and he's taking over this one.

Cena's the face of the WWE and he's what the majority of people want to see so of course he's going to dominate the release. I guarantee you that the majority of people who buy this DVD probably didn't start watching Raw/WWE until after 2000. This DVD isn't geared towards old school fans because frankly, there isn't many of them left today. Today's fans consist of mostly people who started watching wrestling in 2000 and who could really careless what happened before then.

Like I said, Cena's the face of the WWE and the biggest draw in the entire world so you'd have to expect him to dominate releases like this one. It's smart marketing.

Originally Posted by The Clique87

Cena may be the face of Raw today but he damn sure wasn't the face for the entire 15 years. That's what pisses me and a lot of fans off who have seen Raw at its best.

And I could go download HBK/Benjamin but I expected a top notched DVD from WWE covering their #1 show for the last 15 years. I was going to buy the dvd until I saw the match listings. I guess they have just one less buy to worry about for this one.

Like I said, people like you set the bar too high. You pretty much set yourselves up for disappointment. It's almost like you set yourselves up for disappointment so you can bitch and moan afterwards.

[The Clique87]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Like I said, people like you set the bar too high. You pretty much set yourselves up for disappointment. It's almost like you set yourselves up for disappointment so you can bitch and moan afterwards.

I didn't set my expectations high so that I could bitch & moan afterwards. I wanted WWE to deliver and so far with this DVD they haven't. WWE delivered well with Flair, Hart, HBK/From the Vault, Ladder match, Benoit, RVD and many other dvds. Thats why I set the bar so high for this dvd. And I plan on setting the bar high for future Stone Cold DVD as well.

[Austin101]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Cena's the face of the WWE and he's what the majority of people want to see so of course he's going to dominate the release. I guarantee you that the majority of people who buy this DVD probably didn't start watching Raw/WWE until after 2000. This DVD isn't geared towards old school fans because frankly, there isn't many of them left today. Today's fans consist of mostly people who started watching wrestling in 2000 and who could really careless what happened before then.

Like I said, Cena's the face of the WWE and the biggest draw in the entire world so you'd have to expect him to dominate releases like this one. It's smart marketing.



Like I said, people like you set the bar too high. You pretty much set yourselves up for disappointment. It's almost like you set yourselves up for disappointment so you can bitch and moan afterwards.

If putting Cena vs Bischoff on the list over Rock vs Austin among others is smart marketing then I want to remain dumb, thanks.

Seriously though. I completely agree about people bitching and moaning over match selections but this set is more then justified to bitch over.

I do like the 123 Kid-Razor match, among a few others (But I already own the bulk of them) and then the others are down right terrible.

This was supposed to be a set that covered the greatest matches of Raw and instead we get some of the most random matches ever. There's absolutely NO EXCUSE for them to leave out all those great moments and add in current crap.

If anything it shows the NEW fans just how shit there current product has become compared to the stuff of old.

It's like McMahon sits there with the entire library of Pro-Wrestling in the last half-century, goes to the washroom and takes a dump and delivers us his feces instead. Sad really.

[-Mystery-]

Originally Posted by Austin101

If putting Cena vs Bischoff on the list over Rock vs Austin among others is smart marketing then I want to remain dumb, thanks.

Seriously though. I completely agree about people bitching and moaning over match selections but this set is more then justified to bitch over.

I do like the 123 Kid-Razor match, among a few others (But I already own the bulk of them) and then the others are down right terrible.

This was supposed to be a set that covered the greatest matches of Raw and instead we get some of the most random matches ever. There's absolutely NO EXCUSE for them to leave out all those great moments and add in current crap.

If anything it shows the NEW fans just how shit there current product has become compared to the stuff of old.

It's like McMahon sits there with the entire library of Pro-Wrestling in the last half-century, goes to the washroom and takes a dump and delivers us his feces instead. Sad really.

I hope you aren't referring to Rock/Austin froma fter WM X7. If so, that match was horrible. Only thing noteworthy that happened in that match was the formation of the Power Trip.

There is no reason to bitch over the match selection because you shouldn't expect the best set ever. Like I said, no set is perfect and there is always room for improvement.

Also, why would you want to show new fans how bad the product is? That is so fucking stupid. If you show them how bad the product, they might turn off their TVs.

Fact is, despite everyone bitching for no reason, this will still be one of the highest selling DVDs of the year.

[The Clique87]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

There is no reason to bitch over the match selection because you shouldn't expect the best set ever. Like I said, no set is perfect and there is always room for improvement.

Fact is, despite everyone bitching for no reason, this will still be one of the highest selling DVDs of the year.

Have you see Ric Flair's Ultimate Collection and Bret Hart's DVD because I call them perfect.

I could care less if RAW XV Ann. is the highest selling dvd of all time I'm not spending my money on it.

[bstaple12]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

I hope you aren't referring to Rock/Austin froma fter WM X7. If so, that match was horrible. Only thing noteworthy that happened in that match was the formation of the Power Trip.

There is no reason to bitch over the match selection because you shouldn't expect the best set ever. Like I said, no set is perfect and there is always room for improvement.

Also, why would you want to show new fans how bad the product is? That is so fucking stupid. If you show them how bad the product, they might turn off their TVs.

Fact is, despite everyone bitching for no reason, this will still be one of the highest selling DVDs of the year.

I don't care what you say; there is no excuse for having Cena-Federline and Cena-Bischoff on the dvd. Talk about showing how bad the product is; these two matches might make people break their dvd players.

[Undertaker777]

If they have to put 6 Cena matches can they atleast put 6 good ones. Cena/HBK and Cena/Jericho were both good, the tag match wasn't anything special, I can't remember it too well though. The other 3 matches are terrible, why not Cena/Edge Cage, Cena/Edge Christmas, or Cena/Edge/RVD.