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If the WWE are serious about the Women's revolution, why not put Io into the cruiserweight division?

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#1 · (Edited)
Io has competed with men before and is more than capable of hanging with the men. I haven't been against the idea, I only felt if a women were to compete with the men, she must be on the same level. Io is on the same level, maybe even higher than a lot of mens wrestlers in the WWE today.

Her addition to the division could spike interest in 205 and would allow her to work at a higher level, one which you probably won't able to do with the other women as she's so far ahead of them.


1.54 onwards for Io.
 
#4 ·
Nah, WWE won't let a Woman vs Man match happen, certainly not anytime soon. Look at how they handled it when Tyler took a finisher from Nikki Bella, a physically much less intimidating person, they clearly won't entertain the man beating up woman matches.
 
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Look at how they handled it when Tyler took a finisher from Nikki Bella
I hated that so much. Not because Nikki is a woman but because she is completely devoid of any semblance of talent or charisma while Tyler has both in spades.
 
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The women mainevent raw/SD regularly and have mainevented a ppv and you think putting one of them in the cw will raise their profile a division that's treated as pure prelim/filler by Vince.

Anyway lu tried something similar and it ended up the least watched episode of the year. People are just not that interested in men wrestling women. If there was any money in it the UFC women would be fighting the flyweights and they ain't
 
#7 ·
This is 205, not the main event guys.

205 could do with a boost and lets be real, who wouldn't interested in seeing a women as skilled as Io go up against Neville, Aries, TJP, Gallaghar or Towza.

Sure as hell will do more for the women's revolution than watching bad to below average main events.

Just put her in the womens division, and not because I'm sensitive about women getting beat up by men on a fake tv show but because I just like to keep men vs men and women vs women, it makes more sense. Not to mention, the womens division needs as many women as it can get, it's already staler than year old bread. The same matches over and over and over again. Enough is enough. 205 live is dead, adding a woman will just make it look like even more of a clown show than it is. They need a bigger revamp than that.
Check out her work, she's too good to be wasted in the women's division. This will actually be a women's revolution with a women showing she is just as good as the men.
 
#8 ·
I think we all need to accept that nothing WWE will do with Io Shirai or Kairi Hojo will be anywhere even close to their awesome, single appearance on Lucha Underground. What they did with Io Shirai, Mayu Iwatani and Kairi Hojo just wouldn't fly in a WWE environment and probably wouldn't be accepted by its primarily stupid, lowest common denominator audience anyway.

That match with Pentagon is the best thing you'll ever seen them do on American TV. It is what it is.

And threads like this always go the same way. It'll just devolve into people arguing for/against intergender wrestling or people just shitting on women's wrestling in general

In my opinion though, it would be a great idea. WWE could still have their women's divisions, but treat Io Shirai as an experiment and see how it goes, kind of like Chyna and Beth Phoenix. They probably won't do that though for corporate reasons i.e. upsetting sponsors/shareholders and all of that bullshit.

Lucha Underground, and occasionally TNA it seems, are the only places you'll ever see intergender stuff, which is a shame, because some of these women can really go. Look at Cheerleader Melissa in this fucking awesome match:

 
#12 ·
Having a women go toe to toe with the men would be great, it would give girls a true benchmark to aspire to.

Yeah. I don't think this is a good Idea. This Io women is better off in the women's division as it needs all the bodies it can get as it's thin as shit on both shows.
Io will likely be slowed down having to compete with women who are below her. If you're good enough, there's no reason why they can't compete with the mid to lower card men (at first).
 
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#20 ·
You realise how much wow factor they put into a 1 min spot involving Beth eliminating Great Khali. Most guys won't want to job out to a girl either.

Bad booking and guys won't accept it. Unless the woman is like a Kharma or Nia Jax type, it won't happen.
 
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She could be the female HBK and there's still no chance WWE ever put her in a serious competitive match with a man. WWE are too terrified of offending people. There's three occasions WWE would allow intergender violence.

1) Accidents that are typically saved for Steph McMahon at Mania
2) Comedy shit- like Becky vs. Ellsworth is bound to happen, but I bet Ellsworth doesn't hit one move.
3) Whenever Steph feels like swinging her ladyballs around on Raw
 
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I think that would be completely pointless and unnecessary. Why can't men and women just do their own thing? Putting them against each other isn't the way to give women 'equality'. In her own division Io will look like one of the best. Going against somebody such as Neville will make her look less impressive by comparison. He's simply physically superior in every way.

I disagree with this view of Io being far and away the best woman in the world too. She's undoubtedly in the conversation but some people act as if she's HBK and everyone else is Enzo Amore. Even if number one, she's not as far ahead as people think. Yes, some women will struggle to match her in the ring but the solution to that isn't putting her in a division where she would now be the one that is physically inferior.

Overall this is not the huge issue that it's being made out to be. Every roster ever has had a handful of workers that were on their own level compared to the rest. As somebody else said, WWE's focus should be on making the women's division better, not mixing guys and girls.
 
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I always use Kharma's royal rumble appearance as an indicator of their thoughts. She dominated the guys she was in there with with zero offense from the guys. Her elimination was done with a simple lift. This is as close as we'll likely get with male v female on TV for quite sometime.
 
#32 ·
They got Asuka, Hojo, Crazy Mary Dobson, Kimber Lee, Nikki Cross, Ember Moon, Peyton Royce, Billie Kay andRuby Riot just down in NXT. Theres talent down there, WWE just needs to learn how to present them roght.
 
#33 ·
This thread just reminded me of the beating minoru suzuki gave kana (asuka) :lol

Regarding the topic i think intergender matches just wouldnt be as acceptable in mainstream wwe as on the indies. You have to also remember this mae young classic will hoepfully bring in some decent talent for the likes of io to square up to. Hopefully names like candice larae come in.
 
#37 ·
Honestly, seeing what Lucha Underground does with women just makes the whole concept of a women's division kind of stupid to me. I honestly prefer that WWE just do like NJPW and not have women wrestlers there at all if they won't do intergender matches rather than them being in a degrading "women's division" which by very definition means the ladies are weak and can't really fight.

LU has kind of spoiled me. The ladies there literally do everything the men do. And it's a fair environment too. The men can literally beat the shit out of them over there and nobody starts booing them like they are heels. I mean women there have been put through tables, dropped on their heads, speared, hit with chairs, beaten up in cage matches, bladed, and taken stiff kicks to the head from men and it's all cool. The audience have been conditioned to this in LU so it isn't even shocking anymore. It's about as normal as Black Widow fighting dudes in an Avengers movie or seeing Stephen Amell fight Nyssa Al ghul on Arrow. Nobody really takes issue with seeing a back and forth fight between a man and a woman in movies or TV shows.

When you've seen men and women mix it up in the ring with a crowd that cheers and boos for both genders based on whether they are heel/face and not based on their sex, it makes it hard to take "Women's wrestling" in WWE seriously anymore. And what's interesting is that people in the audience were uncomfortable with it in season 1 of LU, and now they aren't phased by it at all, which means that wrestling fans can accept IG wrestling given enough time for them to get used to it. Unfortunately, WWE has spent years making people see women as "divas".

I don't really care anymore, as I don't even watch WWE anymore as I just don't care about that product anymore. I've seen everything WWE is all about for years and I finally got bored with it. There's more interesting wrestling programs out there that do more interesting things with women. Io Shirai will likely just be Asuka 2.0, nothing to get excited about.
 
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