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I have gotten texts and DM's as well as spoken personally to 15 different Justin Roberts who all contacted me after the article I wrote, some literally welling up. Justin was the only one without any interest in going back who would speak publicly. The rest were just thanking me because they went through the same thing.

It's way worse and well known that I had imagined. It's astonishing.

Only one of them knew Mauro, only their own experiences.
WON subscribers can view his post here.
http://theboard.f4wonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=202303&start=675
“JBL asked me and my partner to steal [Justin’s] passport, and we didn’t,” John Hennigan (Lucha Underground champion Johnny Mundo) told Deadspin. At the time of the incident, he worked for the WWF as Johnny Nitro, teaming with current WWE producer Joey Mercury as “MNM.” “JBL was one of the main event guys at the time,” he recalled, “and I don’t remember exactly what Justin Roberts did to become the target for the hazing of this specific oversea trip, but JBL asked me and Joey to snag Justin’s passport.”

Under the circumstances, they had to think it over.

“I remember it ‘being a thing,’ you know? We were looking at Justin, he was a few rows ahead of us on this plane, sleeping. We were like, ‘What do we do?’” MNM had become a target of Layfield’s, as well, and they realized that if they went along with the abuse, which JBL presented to them as being a great prank, there was at least a decent chance that they would be left alone. Some of the abuse they endured included having the sleeves being cut off their ring robes—not only doing property damage, but getting them in trouble for not having the robes. “It’s enticing,” he said of going along with the plan.

“Ultimately, we considered the options, and wound up deciding to not do it,” he explained. “This is a weird thing for a wrestler to say, especially in that era, but I usually went by the golden rule. I wouldn’t have appreciated someone doing that to me, especially someone I considered a peer.” Johnny described how he ended up having to deal with Layfield’s torment on and off for several years, eventually being left alone after he had enough and shoved the larger wrestler. It wasn’t just about hitting his breaking point, though: In 2009, when this happened, Johnny (then working under the name John Morrison) was being used as one of the top wrestlers on the company’s SmackDown show. He knew he wouldn’t get in trouble for fighting back.

As for Roberts, though, there was a moment in Tuscon, right after he returned to the States from the passport mess, where it became clear to him that what he was going through was a lot bigger than John Layfield. “I was sitting in the production meeting, Vince [McMahon] is running the meeting, and when it ends, he’s the first to leave,” Roberts recalled. “I was sitting there, and as he walked by me, he just whispered to me: ‘Don’t forget your passport! Ha-haa!’ and walked away. That’s when I knew there was no sympathy in that company. This stuff is encouraged.”
http://deadspin.com/ex-wweer-on-announcer-jbls-bullying-this-stuff-is-enc-1794126676


JBL calls Roberts an idiot.


JBL has also posted these tweets, though they have been removed.



Other accusations:
Among some of the more serious accusations against JBL is the claim that he once forced an unnamed wrestler into the shower and told him he was going to sexually assault him. Former WWE Champion Edge has also claimed that Bradshaw "soaped my ass in the shower".
Mike Bucci, who performed in WWE as Simon Dean, has said that JBL was one of the wrestlers who spearheaded the abuse Chris Kanyon received for being gay. According to Bucci, Layfield would encourage younger guys on the roster to join him in mocking Kanyon's sexuality. Years later, Kanyon— who took his own life in 2010 — would reveal that he unsuccessfully attempted suicide during his time with WWE.
Vince apparently encourages it:
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that JBL’s bullying is actually encouraged in WWE as a way for Chariman Vince McMahon to weed out the people he thinks aren’t tough enough for the wrestling business.

“Everyone knows how tight Layfield is with Vince McMahon. The belief across-the-board is Layfield’s weeding out those who can’t take it comes from above.”
http://www.gerweck.net/2017/04/08/claim-jbls-bullying-encouraged-by-vince-mcmahon/

Charles Robinson story:


Anderson: "I read something where he told Justin Roberts to go kill himself, everyday. He would say stuff like that, but the minute somebody would fire back at him, or just no-sell it, [they'll] be fine. He wouldn't keep hammering... I'm not saying that his way is right, but people are really, really sensitive nowadays for that reason."

Daivari: "Whenever I hear about John being a bully to whoever, and the specific names that come out, it's because the person he was quote-unquote bullying was trying so hard to get over with him. Like, dude, not everybody is gonna like you. Maybe [John] doesn't like you, you don't have to prove a point and defend [yourself]. If he says you're a dork and he hates you, you don't have to prove to him that you're not a dork and he should like you. Just let it go."

Anderson shares a time where both Edge and John Morrison stood up to JBL:

"Paul Heyman told me this story about how JBL was needling Edge on a bus, overseas. Edge was pretty new to the company, and [JBL kept needling him]. JBL had a beer in his hand, Edge just stood up, and swatted the beer out of his hand, and said 'Let's go right now. I'm sick of it.' From that point on, JBL said 'Oh calm down, sweetheart.' Everything was smoothed over, and he didn't mess with him again.

"[John Morrison] stood up to him one night. JBL didn't like the way him and Miz had sold at the end of their match. They hadn't celebrated enough. [JBL was getting on him], and Johnny basically just snapped on him, and told him to mind his own business. They almost went at it. And that was the end of it. I think John just likes to the guys to be tough."

Daivari shares a story when he stood up to JBL:

"John came [backstage] and just picked me as his target. A bunch of people weren't watching [his main event match from backstage], and he goes, 'Shawn Daivari doesn't need to watch the main event! Shawn Daivari knows everything about everything in wrestling! Shawn doesn't have to watch the main event! He's good, he's got it!' And I said, 'No. You've been doing the same match 17 nights in a row. I can call every single move you did, I can tell you exactly what happened, I can tell you what heat you did to the crowd to get them involved, I've seen it! No, I don't need to watch it tonight! JBL kinda gave me a smile and went away.'"
Update 4/13 - Dave Meltzer

At press time, neither Ranallo nor WWE have made any statements on the case past WWE saying Ranallo is under contract through 8/12. Ranallo’s contract doesn’t allow him to give unauthorized interviews on WWE and the belief is that WWE is working hard to come to a settlement that would include an agreement that he not publicly talk about the issue.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

By 15 different Justin Roberts, I gather he means 15 different people who went through the same shit.

This is all starting to look real bad for JBL. Wouldnt be surprised to see him fired after this. This story is getting too big.
Such poor timing, he was finally starting to shape up his announcing. I finally liked to listen to him.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

Replace JBL with Big Show.
God no! Get rid of JBL, sure, but don't please keep Big Show away from TV forever.

JBL even refutes the rumours about justin roberts by calling him "an idiot"

the guy doesnt know how to not lash out at people, shouldve gone ages ago.
LOL. I know. I saw that tweet and thought, "Jesus, JBL, you're not doing yourself any favours".
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

Worst case scenario here is that if Vince truly is the one giving the orders on this shit and the pressure builds for him to fire JBL that he isn't going to be able to just fire him. Too much of a chance he will spill it all as he's probably proud of this type of shit. What will likely happen is that JBL walks away from this with a huge check in his pocket buying his silence. Rewarded for this behavior. Obviously we would never know of this if it were to happen but it wouldn't surprise me.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

Worst case scenario here is that if Vince truly is the one giving the orders on this shit and the pressure builds for him to fire JBL that he isn't going to be able to just fire him. Too much of a chance he will spill it all as he's probably proud of this type of shit. What will likely happen is that JBL walks away from this with a huge check in his pocket buying his silence. Rewarded for this behavior. Obviously we would never know of this if it were to happen but it wouldn't surprise me.
JBL would end up being offed by some cancer out of nowhere. Not long after he rode off into the sunset.

Vince wouldn't take any chances.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

Why hasn't JBL been dealt with. I think more people should speak up on WWE. He came across as a bit of a twat at the hall of fame, saying the old guys need to know when to shut up. Fuck him.
Most of them are probably scared to speak up because the WWE might never bring them back.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

You'd think all it'd take is for someone to write BA* an email concering all this JBL stuff for BA* to challenge WWE on the matter, unless BA* is so desperate that they'd overlook actual bullying just to retain access to WWE and its personalities.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article



Twitter needs to get a hold of this and trend #FireJBL. It may sound stupid, but it's twitter that created the "women's revolution", and if enough eyes are on this they could feel pressured into getting rid of him.
Loath Twitter, but I'd be halfway tempted revisit it just to take part.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

If vince has any balls he will fire JBL, otherwise whats the point of this "be a star" bullshit.
Hopefully this implicates Vince too, forcing him to retire. Getting those two out would make the WWE a better place straight away
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

Good. JBL can go hang out with Bill DeMott.

However, I also think Dave from Oakland is working an angle in that he judged the temperature of the room incorrectly when he wrote his first article and is now trying to position himself firmly in the anti-bullying/anti-JBL camp.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

If this was an isolated incident, I'd back off and wait to hear his side. But when it's this widespread and over such a long period of time, it's safe to say the guy is just a bully. If these stories are true, then he's a top cunt.
Hell, this isn't even confined to just backstage stuff. Fans can plainly see it throughout history. Look at what he and Farooq did to Public Enemy in that match on Heat in March, 1999. Or what he did to Blue Meanie at ONS. Or how he and Farooq totally stiffed O'Haire and Palumbo when they debuted and he almost broke O'Haire's neck powerbombing him through a table (look at how his head hit the mat). Or when the APA gave Perry Saturn a receipt for him shooting on Mike Bell, again with JBL almost murdering Saturn with a powerbomb.

He's always been a fucking prick. But Vince likes bullies because he respects their strength (not to mention he's also a bully). Hence, JBL has a job. However, I suppose one not totally terrible thing about this movement towards being ultra PC is that hopefully, it'll make enough of a commotion to get him canned.
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

So he says, while producing no proof or names. Keep in mind this guy hates JBL to the core, always buried him to shit. Not defending JBL but Meltzer is a total hypocrite who plays bias to keep his customer base happy.

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The Japanese do there shit to train and test the kids (ans save money by not hiring a ring crew :p) their shit has a start and a finish.

JBL does it because he's a jackass who gets off on it and he doesn't stop until the guy leaves, gets fired, or has an apparent break down like Mauro
 
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Re: Meltzer: I have spoken with at least 15 people regarding JBL since I wrote the article

JBL even refutes the rumours about justin roberts by calling him "an idiot"

the guy doesnt know how to not lash out at people, shouldve gone ages ago.
 
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