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WON: Current Mania Lineup As Of Right Now (Bad News For AJ, Owens, Ambrose)

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Bill Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar for the Universal title
Undertaker vs. Reigns. "It was noted to us that Vince McMahon had been wanting to make this match for some time. With Undertaker’s condition the way it is, this could have been the last chance to do it. There is the idea of a generational passing of the torch."
HHH vs. Seth Rollins. "Obviously this is in jeopardy right now."
Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton for the WWE title
Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse
Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal
Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title
"The other match that is rumored that looks likely, but not confirmed is A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon."
Owens is planned lose the Universal title to Goldberg at Fastlane. Cena is planned to lose the WWE title to Bray Wyatt at Elimination Chamber.

Some more information on the Cena match:

John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse. This is notable in a lot of ways. When this match came out, a ton of people internally were rolling their eyes about it. On one hand, it does feel like a waste for Cena, who was originally to face Undertaker, and there was also talk of Samoa Joe and others. But there is also a lot of talk that it would be Nikki Bella’s last match (there are reports of that but nobody we’ve asked about it internally either had any knowledge or confirmed it). If so, you can see her wanting to go out with her boyfriend at WrestleMania and see him maybe wanting that as well. Miz has done a great job of late and the Miz & Maryse couple are a near main event level act. With the storyline where Natalya pushed that “John will never marry you,” I keep thinking this could lead to a proposal, and if that’s the case, in the big picture, this match makes sense. I don’t know that’s the case. That would be a far bigger thing as far as something memorable than anything, even a great match with A.J. Styles, that Cena could be to the majority of fans.
Information on Ambrose:

"Dean Ambrose is kinda like, well he doesn't have anything for Wrestlemania at this point. I suppose they could do something for the IC title, I mean like a multiple person match or something, but y'know we'll see. There's already a lot of matches on the card and there's the battle royal and everything, but they could still add something. He may be subjected to being on the pre-show at this rate unless he's in that battle royal"
Wow, this shit is shaping up to be even worse than WM32.
 
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I'm not sure how this would be bad news for Owens or AJ. If these proposed matches come to fruition, they are both going to be in programs that will get a lot of TV time to build up hype and the matches should both be pretty fun. I know everyone gets a bit pissy about Shane, but I'm certain AJ could get a great match out of him.
 
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Well, WM 32 actually happened. Hopefully there are some significant changes due to Seth because that card lacks anything.
 
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It was noted to us that Vince McMahon had been wanting to make this match for some time. With Undertaker’s condition the way it is, this could have been the last chance to do it. There is the idea of a generational passing of the torch."
Uh....wasn't this supposed to be what Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt 2 years ago was??
Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title
Blasphemy. Becky Lynch should be in Nia Jax's spot. I don't even care if she isn't on the same brand.

Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal
Just no.

"The other match that is rumored that looks likely, but not confirmed is A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon."
AJ Styles, the guy who is known for being the worlds greatest wrestler, is not even facing a wrestler....
 
#9 ·
Undertaker vs Reigns as a "generational passing of the torch"

Thats going to go over so well :bosque

The rest of the card is meh. It sucks for Ambrose and Styles after pretty much carrying SDL since the split to be relegated to where they are on this proposed card. I would have saved Cena's 16th title win against Styles and that match they had for Mania and just had Goldberg or Lesnar win the Rumble and the other win the title at FL if this was the planned card...
 
#10 ·
If this line up actually goes through, then this WrestleMania is not even worth watching.


Undertaker vs. Reigns. "It was noted to us that Vince McMahon had been wanting to make this match for some time. With Undertaker’s condition the way it is, this could have been the last chance to do it. There is the idea of a generational passing of the torch."
The nihilistic part of me cant wait for this, Just for the crowd and internet rage.
I can imagine it right now: Roman beat Undertaker and celebrate his victory. Then, a barely standing undertaker walks up to him and raise his hand like the Rock did in 2015, endorsement and passing of the torch.
It will be glorious.
 
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Wasn't Owens supposed to lose the title at Roadblock? And then the Royal Rumble? Hopefully they're off the mark again and Owens takes the Universal title to Mania, Brock Goldberg doesn't need a title.

As for Smackdown, I would rather see Ambrose vs Shane in a street fight. Let AJ take the IC title and defend it against someone at Mania, perhaps Ziggler or Joe.
 
#18 ·
I'm not sure what's so bad about it. I think people REALLY need to slow down their fantasy booking, because they will always get disappointed when reality doesn't match the perfect dream card they've imagined in their heads. I mean, let's review:

1) Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar

It's gonna be a pretty cool moment as both guys are over as hell. The match will be short, but explosive and intense. And the fact that the Universal title is on the line will just elevate that title. People will complain how a part-timer holds it, well what makes for a more credible champion at this moment? Brock Lesnar or Kevin Owens? A victory over whom will put over the next champion in the best possible way? Brock Lesnar or Kevin Owens?

2) Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker

It's not gonna be a technical masterpiece, but if Taker gets in shape I'm sure it will make for a fun brawl. Hopefully, Reigns will be heel.

3) HHH vs. Rollins

If it even happens, it's gonna be a GREAT match and a great moment for Rollins. Probably MotN.

4) Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton

I don't like this one, the match is probably gonna be lame, if it's put in a bad spot the crowd won't care one bit and Bray will probably lose.

5) Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens

This is gonna be a great match.

6) Mixed tag

At least Cena is not "hogging" the main event and if rumors are true, it's a good sendoff for Nikki.

7) Big Show vs. Shaq

Hopefully they add someone in there and make it a tag, because otherwise this is gonna be a shitter.

8) Women's 4-Way

Nia sucks, but Bayley, Sasha and Charlotte are good enough that they will be able to cover for her and make it a good match.

9) AJ vs. Shane

Yeah, I wouldn't have Shane in this spot either. But this is AJ motherfuckin Styles. He can get a 4-star match out of a potato.
 
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Ugh - that looks bad.

Ok - I get the hype factor of Goldberg vs Brock. I don't think it will be a good match, but I get it.

Regins vs UT. ugh again. UT should hang it up rather than go through with this. Vince seems determined to make Regins the guy. I guess (and fear) is he's gonna have Reigns go over here and then take the title from whoever has it after the Goldberg v Brock match to fully make the transition to Super Roman.

HHH vs. Seth Rollins. - meh. If it happens HHH should do the job here.

Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton for the WWE title - everyone knew it would come to Orton v Bray. Bray gets to hold the belt for a few weeks as a transition champ I guess. It could set up Orton v AJ down the road which might not be bad.

Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens - Another one everyone could see coming a mile away. But does it even matter? Jericho is arguably the most over person on Raw right now and is due to go away and KO has been booked like crap as the champ. I get its supposed to be the blow off - but will anyone care.

John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse - meh

Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal - The established wrestler gets beat by a celb / sports figure is a WM tradition. It sucks, but it is tradition.

Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title - Could actually be a decent match.

"The other match that is rumored that looks likely, but not confirmed is A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon." - ummm.
 
#24 ·
Honestly, what everybody is seemingly dreading as a waste of AJ Styles in Shane O'Mac is the most interesting match on paper for me. And that's not me legit praising the idea (which imo isn't THAT bad, but it's definitely not WrestleMania worthy), that's just me shitting all over this garbage card on paper.

One of the main title matches is being wrestled between a 50 year old and a 40+ year old, who didn't need a World Title to fuel their feud BACK IN 200fucking4. The other pits two guys who, according to everyone I know, have little chemistry and wrestled boring matches w/each other (and while I'm happy that Bray's gonna win the WWE Title, this idea is still a pile of gooseshit... couldn't they just wrestle a midcard match and be done w/it?). Jericho/Owens does nothing for me, as while they are both hilarious on the stick w/their character work (and this may mean an Owens face turn... on the other hand, could also be a Jericho face turn, and Lord help us), I've stopped caring about their in-ring work a while ago. HHH/Rollins isn't even guaranteed to happen, and even if it does, meh. The 4-Way could be alright, but again, my investment on the (former) NXT women has dropped considerably. I laughed my ass off at the Mixed Tag - what a wonderful use of Cena at WM (and Miz too, he had a good 2016). Show/Shaq..... don't even know what to say about that one. And Taker/Reigns would've been very intriguing... four years ago. Now, w/one guy barely walking to the ring and the other having more nuclear heat than a North Korean underground, I couldn't care less. Ambrose being thrown into some random ass Battle Royal is the diahrrea candy on top of the shit shake.

Fucking awful card, imho. Vince McMahon continues to prove me that he is brain damaged and he should leave.
 
#26 · (Edited)
WWE Universal Championship Match - Strowman cashes in his MITB.
Bill Goldberg Vs Brock Lesnar -

WWE World Championship Match -
Randy Orton Vs Bray Wyatt Vs AJ Styles

No Holds Barred Match -
Triple H Vs Seth Rollins

Grudge Match -
Undertaker Vs Roman Reigns

Intergender Tag Team Match -
John Cena/Nikki Bella Vs The Miz/Maryse

Grudge Match -
Finn Balor Vs Samoa Joe

WWE United States Championship Match -
Chris Jericho Vs Kevin Owens

WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Triple Threat Elimination Match
Dean Ambrose Vs Baron Corbin Vs Dolph Ziggler

Raw Money In The Bank Ladder Match -
Braun Strowman Vs Sami Zayn Vs Sheamus Vs Big Cass Vs Cesaro Vs Rusev

Raw Woman's Championship Match -
Charlotte Vs Sasha Banks Vs Bayley Vs Nia Jax

Pre show -

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal -
Everyone who isn't scheduled.

Smackdown Woman's Championship Match -
I don't really care, do whatever

Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match -
I don't really care, do whatever

Raw Tag Team Championship Match -
I don't really care, do whatever​



It's not that bad at all... Every match is meaningful, could have been better though.
 
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