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WON: Current Mania Lineup As Of Right Now (Bad News For AJ, Owens, Ambrose)

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#1 ·
Bill Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar for the Universal title
Undertaker vs. Reigns. "It was noted to us that Vince McMahon had been wanting to make this match for some time. With Undertaker’s condition the way it is, this could have been the last chance to do it. There is the idea of a generational passing of the torch."
HHH vs. Seth Rollins. "Obviously this is in jeopardy right now."
Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton for the WWE title
Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse
Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal
Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title
"The other match that is rumored that looks likely, but not confirmed is A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon."
Owens is planned lose the Universal title to Goldberg at Fastlane. Cena is planned to lose the WWE title to Bray Wyatt at Elimination Chamber.

Some more information on the Cena match:

John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse. This is notable in a lot of ways. When this match came out, a ton of people internally were rolling their eyes about it. On one hand, it does feel like a waste for Cena, who was originally to face Undertaker, and there was also talk of Samoa Joe and others. But there is also a lot of talk that it would be Nikki Bella’s last match (there are reports of that but nobody we’ve asked about it internally either had any knowledge or confirmed it). If so, you can see her wanting to go out with her boyfriend at WrestleMania and see him maybe wanting that as well. Miz has done a great job of late and the Miz & Maryse couple are a near main event level act. With the storyline where Natalya pushed that “John will never marry you,” I keep thinking this could lead to a proposal, and if that’s the case, in the big picture, this match makes sense. I don’t know that’s the case. That would be a far bigger thing as far as something memorable than anything, even a great match with A.J. Styles, that Cena could be to the majority of fans.
Information on Ambrose:

"Dean Ambrose is kinda like, well he doesn't have anything for Wrestlemania at this point. I suppose they could do something for the IC title, I mean like a multiple person match or something, but y'know we'll see. There's already a lot of matches on the card and there's the battle royal and everything, but they could still add something. He may be subjected to being on the pre-show at this rate unless he's in that battle royal"
Wow, this shit is shaping up to be even worse than WM32.
 
#7 ·
It was noted to us that Vince McMahon had been wanting to make this match for some time. With Undertaker’s condition the way it is, this could have been the last chance to do it. There is the idea of a generational passing of the torch."
Uh....wasn't this supposed to be what Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt 2 years ago was??
Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title
Blasphemy. Becky Lynch should be in Nia Jax's spot. I don't even care if she isn't on the same brand.

Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal
Just no.

"The other match that is rumored that looks likely, but not confirmed is A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon."
AJ Styles, the guy who is known for being the worlds greatest wrestler, is not even facing a wrestler....
 
#2 ·
:tripsscust
 
#9 ·
Undertaker vs Reigns as a "generational passing of the torch"

Thats going to go over so well :bosque

The rest of the card is meh. It sucks for Ambrose and Styles after pretty much carrying SDL since the split to be relegated to where they are on this proposed card. I would have saved Cena's 16th title win against Styles and that match they had for Mania and just had Goldberg or Lesnar win the Rumble and the other win the title at FL if this was the planned card...
 
#16 ·
Undertaker vs Reigns as a "generational passing of the torch" Thats going to go over so well :bosque
Well it's is a "generational passing of the torch", one generation got to cheer from Taker, HBK, Austin, The Rock, Benoit, Angle, HHH (some times) & Bryan while now the next generation just boo's from Cena to Regins....

Better file this "generational torch passing" under the following gif

#FactsVFiction #WWELogic
 
#3 ·
I'm not sure how this would be bad news for Owens or AJ. If these proposed matches come to fruition, they are both going to be in programs that will get a lot of TV time to build up hype and the matches should both be pretty fun. I know everyone gets a bit pissy about Shane, but I'm certain AJ could get a great match out of him.
 
#10 ·
If this line up actually goes through, then this WrestleMania is not even worth watching.


Undertaker vs. Reigns. "It was noted to us that Vince McMahon had been wanting to make this match for some time. With Undertaker’s condition the way it is, this could have been the last chance to do it. There is the idea of a generational passing of the torch."
The nihilistic part of me cant wait for this, Just for the crowd and internet rage.
I can imagine it right now: Roman beat Undertaker and celebrate his victory. Then, a barely standing undertaker walks up to him and raise his hand like the Rock did in 2015, endorsement and passing of the torch.
It will be glorious.
 
#17 ·
Wasn't Owens supposed to lose the title at Roadblock? And then the Royal Rumble? Hopefully they're off the mark again and Owens takes the Universal title to Mania, Brock Goldberg doesn't need a title.

As for Smackdown, I would rather see Ambrose vs Shane in a street fight. Let AJ take the IC title and defend it against someone at Mania, perhaps Ziggler or Joe.
 
#132 ·
The thing I just don't like about them doing Taker vs Reigns is that it now kills any chance of seeing Taker vs Cena. That was one of the last legit blockbuster matches that they've never booked, between two top guys whose paths haven't crossed since that Raw episode at MSG back in November 2009, when Taker gave Cena the Tombstone.

Why not do Taker vs Cena this year, and if Vince is still obsessed with that "pass the torch" moment for Reigns, then do Cena vs Reigns next year?
 
#157 ·
Because Vince is truly an idiot.

Man I really do hate the fact that Taker/Cena is never gonna happen now. It's a fantasy match that is a legit possibility but there's a timeline on it and Vince just doesn't see it. What a shame.

Taker 'passing the torch' to reigns makes zero sense as Takers era was over many years ago. They even ran a 'end of an era' match 5 fucking years ago. Cena/Reigns is the true passing of the torch and can happen at any point in the next few years.
 
#18 ·
I'm not sure what's so bad about it. I think people REALLY need to slow down their fantasy booking, because they will always get disappointed when reality doesn't match the perfect dream card they've imagined in their heads. I mean, let's review:

1) Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar

It's gonna be a pretty cool moment as both guys are over as hell. The match will be short, but explosive and intense. And the fact that the Universal title is on the line will just elevate that title. People will complain how a part-timer holds it, well what makes for a more credible champion at this moment? Brock Lesnar or Kevin Owens? A victory over whom will put over the next champion in the best possible way? Brock Lesnar or Kevin Owens?

2) Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker

It's not gonna be a technical masterpiece, but if Taker gets in shape I'm sure it will make for a fun brawl. Hopefully, Reigns will be heel.

3) HHH vs. Rollins

If it even happens, it's gonna be a GREAT match and a great moment for Rollins. Probably MotN.

4) Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton

I don't like this one, the match is probably gonna be lame, if it's put in a bad spot the crowd won't care one bit and Bray will probably lose.

5) Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens

This is gonna be a great match.

6) Mixed tag

At least Cena is not "hogging" the main event and if rumors are true, it's a good sendoff for Nikki.

7) Big Show vs. Shaq

Hopefully they add someone in there and make it a tag, because otherwise this is gonna be a shitter.

8) Women's 4-Way

Nia sucks, but Bayley, Sasha and Charlotte are good enough that they will be able to cover for her and make it a good match.

9) AJ vs. Shane

Yeah, I wouldn't have Shane in this spot either. But this is AJ motherfuckin Styles. He can get a 4-star match out of a potato.
 
#24 ·
Honestly, what everybody is seemingly dreading as a waste of AJ Styles in Shane O'Mac is the most interesting match on paper for me. And that's not me legit praising the idea (which imo isn't THAT bad, but it's definitely not WrestleMania worthy), that's just me shitting all over this garbage card on paper.

One of the main title matches is being wrestled between a 50 year old and a 40+ year old, who didn't need a World Title to fuel their feud BACK IN 200fucking4. The other pits two guys who, according to everyone I know, have little chemistry and wrestled boring matches w/each other (and while I'm happy that Bray's gonna win the WWE Title, this idea is still a pile of gooseshit... couldn't they just wrestle a midcard match and be done w/it?). Jericho/Owens does nothing for me, as while they are both hilarious on the stick w/their character work (and this may mean an Owens face turn... on the other hand, could also be a Jericho face turn, and Lord help us), I've stopped caring about their in-ring work a while ago. HHH/Rollins isn't even guaranteed to happen, and even if it does, meh. The 4-Way could be alright, but again, my investment on the (former) NXT women has dropped considerably. I laughed my ass off at the Mixed Tag - what a wonderful use of Cena at WM (and Miz too, he had a good 2016). Show/Shaq..... don't even know what to say about that one. And Taker/Reigns would've been very intriguing... four years ago. Now, w/one guy barely walking to the ring and the other having more nuclear heat than a North Korean underground, I couldn't care less. Ambrose being thrown into some random ass Battle Royal is the diahrrea candy on top of the shit shake.

Fucking awful card, imho. Vince McMahon continues to prove me that he is brain damaged and he should leave.
 
#35 · (Edited)
Goldberg vs Lesnar for the UNIVERSAL TITLE is easily the worst out of all of those. You have a roster full of guys fighting to have a good spot at Mania and those two part timers are the ones that get the title match.

SD, as usual, doesn't get shit. Ambrose is shafted to a multi man match, AJ gets fucking Shane fpalm, and Cena/Miz get each other on a mixed tag team match. How worse could it get?

And yeah, Nia... :punkout

The only matches I'm interested in are Bray vs Orton (even though the winner will probably disappoint me) and Owens/Jericho (which should be the Universal Title match).

Now leave Becky out of the SD title match too so that can be the icing on the cake for me... Why do I even bother.
 
#49 ·
This sounds awful. Roman vs. Taker-Bleh.

AJ vs. Shane-Bleh.

Goldberg vs. Brock is fine, but not with the title involved.

The Women's Match could either be really good (especially if Sasha steals and win and starts her heel run as champion), or a complete mess.

KO vs. Jericho-That one's ok.

John Cena's match sounds boring. Also shouldn't Natalya be involved, given that she's the one who keeps bringing Cena/Nikki's dating him into their feud?

Big Show and Shaq-Don't care.

Rollins vs. Triple H-Up in the air right now. Also if it means that Joe loses his first big feud on the main roster, then bleh (also what does Joe do for Mania)?

Where the heck is Ambrose, or the SD women (do they get nothing yet again on a big four PPV, bullcrap)?
 
#65 · (Edited)
Owens is fine. A match with Jericho will be a midcard match, but it's fine. It's not a match that insults people, it'll be a fun program, the promos will be great. He deserves something higher but he'll get it next year.

Dean Ambrose getting fucked is nothing new.

Roman Reigns vs Undertaker is gonna be so much fun. The worst in ring main eventer of this decade vs a 52 year old guy who just had a hip replacement, who can barely move, in a match that has to go 15 to 20 minutes all while people mercilessly boo Roman Reigns as he goes over the most beloved performer on the roster. Get your popcorn ready. :popcorn Pass the torch, comedy. The only torches are gonna be the ones in the crowd.
 
#166 ·
Owens is fine. A match with Jericho will be a midcard match, but it's fine. It's not a match that insults people, it'll be a fun program, the promos will be great. He deserves something higher but he'll get it next year.

Dean Ambrose getting fucked is nothing new.
And what say you about Wyatt going in as the incumbent champion :mj?


Roman Reigns vs Undertaker is gonna be so much fun. The worst in ring main eventer of this decade
The worst in ring main eventer that just gave Owens his best match since Zayn :reigns2
 
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