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Can someone explain to me why Ric Flair is considered an all time great wrestler?

Not a troll/hate thread. I'm genuinely curious, I didn't start getting into wrestling till late 90's/early 00, Flairs prime years were well before my time, I saw his stuff in Evolution and such but he had taken more of a manager role by then. I have gone back and watched matches involving Flair that I've heard about that are deemed classic, his match with Steamboat, the 92' rumble, and I don't get it, he's charismatic as hell theres no denying that, definitely a great talker and showman, but when it comes to his actual wrestling I dunno...maybe I'm watching the wrong matches but he actually seems kinda average in ring skill wise? No I'm not one of those dudes that think a wrestler pulling off a bunch of flips makes them a great wrestler, but from the matches I've watched he did same kinda basic, I find prime HBK and even prime Rock a lot more entertaining to watch. Help me out here?





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Re: Can someone explain to me why Ric Flair is considered an all time great wrestler?

Just watched Flair/Luger from WrestleWar 1990 and in my closing comments, I said that people should watch this match to see how great he could be, esp against a more limited opponent like Luger.
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Re: Can someone explain to me why Ric Flair is considered an all time great wrestler?

He had charisma and a very over gimmick but I have to agree, his matches were average
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Re: Can someone explain to me why Ric Flair is considered an all time great wrestler?

I started watching wrestling in 1996, so his prime was beyond my lifetime too. People say that he is one of the greatest (if not the #1 greatest), and I just simply take their word for it. Nothing I've ever personally seen suggests that Flair was that good.
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Re: Can someone explain to me why Ric Flair is considered an all time great wrestler?

Great talker, great character, great worker and one of all time biggest draws

What exactly is there to question?

He had legendary feuds with Ricky steamboat, Dusty Rhodes and Terry Funk. Was a founding member of one if not most famous factions of all time. Carried sting, Barry Windham and lex Luger to such a degree all three went in rookies and left the matches with him as bonefide stars..Oh and he had a potential moty at 59 years old
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I don't really think he is the greatest of all time but he oozed charisma and could cut a promo better than almost anyone past and present. He had legendary feuds and some great matches. If he were around today in his prime there would be people making fun of some of his selling.


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He had a great gimmick and could talk... many are willing to overlook extremely similar and by the numbers matches because of that. His best match wasn't even during his prime either... it was with one of the actual in ring GOATs in HBK at WMXXIV. I was never a huge fan of the Steamboat trilogy or the matches with Dusty or Sting. They were alright matches, but I was never enamoured with them like some were. As an in ring wrestler, Flair doesn't even make my top 20, let alone enter GOAT territory.
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Great talker, great character, great worker and one of all time biggest draws

What exactly is there to question?

He had legendary feuds with Ricky steamboat, Dusty Rhodes and Terry Funk. Was a founding member of one if not most famous factions of all time. Carried sting, Barry Windham and lex Luger to such a degree all three went in rookies and left the matches with him as bonefide stars..Oh and he had a potential moty at 59 years old

I guess its the "great worker" part.


None of the other parts I have a hard time seeing, and I realize that, even though I never got to watch it to see HOW, that he carried WCW on his back.


However like someone else said I don't really find his matches that great? His moveset is basic, his selling is good but at times over the top however I suppose that goes with his character, so I take it its more to do with his psychology, correct?





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Re: Can someone explain to me why Ric Flair is considered an all time great wrestler?

Why wouldn't he be? Is he expected to be as dynamic as Omega or Styles in a time where wrestling was far simpler? Flair was a brilliant wrestler for his time, he was an originator and had excellent in-ring psychology. For being so good in his own era, one of the top guys, he will always be seen as an all time great.

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I don't really think he is the greatest of all time but he oozed charisma and could cut a promo better than almost anyone past and present. He had legendary feuds and some great matches. If he were around today in his prime there would be people making fun of some of his selling.
He's the GOAT for a multitude of reasons tbh, the man truly embodied what professional wrestling is all about

He oozed charisma nobody had, the best promo ever, had some of the greatest feuds ever, and a lot more reasons. He could work any type of match ( the can only wrestling one match is one of the most overblown/stupid myths in IWC history), tell a story and hype a crowd. Nobody comes close to having the catalog of matches he has in terms of good matches. Also it's insane in his prime he worked 360 days a year and had hour long matches on the norm. He'd go into every territory and make the top guy of the promotion look like a million bucks. He's wrestled every major star in the business.

he literally is my favorite wrestler of all time because no matter what he does and gets made fun of for, he brings entertainment to the viewer and that really is all of what a pro wrestler should do


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