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Why Triple H gets a pass while Kane and Big Show not?

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#1 · (Edited)
A few days ago I rewatched the Royal Rumble match of this year and I've noticed something curious and interesting

In the Royal Rumble of 2015 Kane and Big Show got a lot of hate because they eliminated three guys who are the fan favorite, Ambrose, Bray Wyatt and Ziggler, the IWC exploded against Big Show and Kane and bashed them with no compassion, it's incredible the hate they got from the IWC. People trashed on Kane and Show with comments like "This two ...... need to retire" or "Oh this two are pushed in 2015 what a bullshit bla bla bla...."


But in this year's Royal Rumble Triple H (a guy who's been wrestling as long as Kane and Big Show) did exactly the same thing, he eliminated Dean Ambrose, Bray Wyatt and Dolph Ziggler, the three fan favorite , but nobody complained about it and Triple h not only eliminated them, he WON the Royal Rumble, he WON the WWE Title, and people were even happy with it. I couldn't even't imagine how people would react if Kane or Show win the WWE Title....

So why nobody said "Oh Triple H is pushed in 2016 bla bla bla", he did the same thing as Big Show and Kane in the previous year plus he won the RR, but nobody bashed him for eliminating the fan favorite, why? why he can eliminate the fan favorite and be pushed in 2016 but Kane and Big Show can't? what's the difference? Triple H has been wrestling since the 90s as well, so I don't get why he gets a pass.

And it doesn't stop here, after the Royal Rumble Triple H had clean wins over Dean Ambrose and Ziggler, and then he mainevented Wrestlemania, and although it was one of the worst main events in history people didn't complain of him being in the main events.

So Triple H can be booked strong, he can beat the young talent and the fan favorite , he can win the WWE Title and he can be in the main event of Wrestlemania, and all this in 2016, in the other hand if Big Show and Kane are pushed and beat the fan favorite people trash them despite Kane and Show aren't maineventing Wrestlemania or big PPVS and they didn't win the WWE Title.

-So can somebody tell me what's the difference between Kane & Big Show and Triple H?
-Why Triple H gets a pass?
 
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#8 · (Edited)
I'm comparing the situation of them, Kane and Show didn't main event Wrestlemania or big PPVS , they only are in the main events of Raw, Smackdown and once in a year the can be in the main event of a PPV , in 2014 Kane mainevented Extreme Rules and Battleground.

The point is people complain because sometimes Kane and Show are in the main events of Raw or Smackdown because they say that they are old, but they are fine with Triple H maineventing Wrestlemania.

- They bitch when Kane and Show are in the final four of Royal Rumble but they are fine when Triple H wins the royal rumble.

- The bitch when Kane has a match for the WWE Title in a PPV like Hell in a cell but they are fine when Triple H is the WWE Champion and is maineventing Wrestlemania.

- They bitch when Kane or Show beat a young talent, but they are fine when Triple H beats Ambrose or Ziggler.
 
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#3 ·
1. He can still put on top level singles matches bar the Reigns match at WM.

2. It was always looking like it was going to go Reigns vs HHH and the rejection of Reigns led to great reactions for HHH.

3. He's a far bigger star.

4. Tons of people did complain.
 
#6 ·
There was also logical reason for hhh's booking

He and reigns had been involved in mainevent angle for months prior to the rumble with reigns destroying him and keeping him off tv. Hhh winning set up mania main event

Show and Kane had been doing nothing for months and did nothing after (both we in the Andre battle royal on the preshow at mania)
 
#10 ·
Before the Royal Rumble of 2015 Kane and Big Show were fighting against all the enemies of the authority every week, including Roman Reigns, and them eliminating the fan favorite at the royal rumble it was to set up a Roman Reigns victory by eliminating them, so it made sense as well.
 
#47 ·
That's fine, if people don't like Kane and Show you and people should say that you don't want them to be pushed because you don't like them, not because it's 2016.

If every time Kane and Show win a match you complain because you and people say that they should be winning matches in 2016, then I say that Triple H shouldn't be pushed, winning titles and maineventing Wrestlemania in 2016. :saul
 
#11 ·
HHH has always been booked strong. It makes sense for him to do well in the Rumble as he was at that point still way ahead of the three eliminated guys you mentioned. Kane and Show are guys who are all over the place in terms of booking. Main eventers, mid carders, undercard jobbers. They have been everything and if they suddenly eliminate young up and coming stars it's a bit odd. Not necessary is probably the best description.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Kane and Show are two seven foot giants, you can't tell me that it doesn't make sense having both of them eliminating small guys like Ziggler or Ambrose.

It's not like Show eliminated them alone, or Kane eliminated them alone, they joined forces , and when you have two giants tossing out guys who are half their size it's believable, you can't tell me it's not......

In the other hand when Triple H eliminated Ziggler and Ambrose , he did it alone. So this is another reason why the hate Kane and Show got was ridiculous.
 
#12 ·
I'd imagine it is due to wrestling fans ages around the age of 18 or so didn't have to put up with Haitch in the early 00's. Big Show/Kane always had a role of some sort on the show where as Haitch mostly worked behind the scenes when they where growing up.
 
#22 ·
Kane had a ton of good matches in the last years, he can still compete in a high level

Now and then Big Show has great performances, you remember his match against Reigns at Extreme Rules?

And yeah, Triple H proved that he can still wrestle in 2016, we all saw it in the main event of Wrestlemania 32....
 
#23 ·
HHH has had several long feuds with several people that are memorable etc. Can you say same about Big Show & Kane?

You can't. I'l tell you why. Because Big Show & Kane aren't booked continuously like monsters. They've had joke runs compared to Triple H. I can't take a 7 feet guy seriously if he loses to every fucking guy who's half their size. Thats not down to him though. Thats just Vince's booking style that little guy must overcome the odds.

Last time i actually enjoyed Big Show & Kane was when they were tag-team. And that was what, 10 years ago?

funnily enough. Big Show is only 44, while HHH is 47 and Kane is oldest, 49.
 
#26 · (Edited)
In 2014 Kane feuded with Daniel Bryan, Kane destroyed him with three tombstones and forced him to relinquish the title, he also destroyed John Cena and tombstoned him, he beat Dean Ambrose, and he prevent Roman Reigns to win the MITB witch a chokeslam from the ladder, he also destroyed CM Punk in the Royal Rumble and cost him the match with a chokeslam through the table.

Kane had several long feuds with Taker, Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Cena, Orton, Stone Cold, Triple H, Edge and many more.
Same with Big Show so I think you may have to learn some wwe history.

You say you can't take seriously guys who lose to another guys half their size but what about the wins? Kane and Big Show beat Ziggler, Ambrose, Wyatt, Orton, Bryan, Cm Punk, Roman reigns, Rollins , Sheamus just to name the top guys of the last two-three years.

Now let's talk legends that Kane and Show beat: Taker, Stone Cold, Triple H, HBK, Edge, Lesnar, The Rock, Jericho, Batista and many more.

And Triple H is only two years younger than Kane, so what? Kane can still compete in a higher level than him
 
#27 ·
I've never understood it either. He's no more or less talented than Kane or Big Show IMO. They were all three capable of putting on great matches through the years and all three should be long retired by now. Then again, I have always believed him to be overrated in general.

As far as this year's RR, it wasn't about Trips at all. It was about Roman. They would have cheered anyone other than Roman cause that's the current in thing to do.
 
#28 ·
Triple H is alright to great, when he wants.

Kane and Big Show are straight up boring and borderline dreadful.

Both are decent talent though, especially when Kane is doing his Corporate Kane shtick and Big Show, when he has some material to work with. But, they have been enhancement talent for so long, it's hard to give a fuck about them. AND yeah, boring dreadful matches ...
 
#42 · (Edited)
Because HHH can still perform at a better level than both Kane and Show, HHH is also a bigger name with more credibility.

I love Kane and all, but he should have retired after his team hell no days. That was the last time he was ever good. Ever since mid 2013 and now he's been terrible. He's hurt his legacy by staying.
Triple H can't still perform in a high level, yes he had a decent match with Ambrose but it wasn't nothing memorable, and his matches against Ziggler and Roman Reigns were terrible, it showed that Triple H shouldn't be in the main events anymore, much less in the main event of Wrestleamania.

Kane had a ton of good matches in the last years, and he had great moments since the Team Hell no days, like when he tombstoned Bryan three times, destroying Punk in the Royal Rumble, destroying and tombstoning Cena, breaking the record of all time eliminations in Royal Rumble 2015, destroying Brock Lesnar, the brothers of destruction reunion, the split of personality and mind games with Rollins, besides Kane beat Rollins and all the roster in a lumberjack match and many other moments, so your comment isn't true.
 
#31 ·
1.) Triple H can still put on great matches consistently when he wants to.
2.) People were sick of Reigns and, although fans predicted Triple H come back and win obviously, they still gave him a big pop, especially when he eliminated Reigns.
3.) In the Royal Rumble Reigns won, the remaining three was Kane, Big Show, and Reigns. In the Royal Rumble Triple H won, the last two were Ambrose and HHH and I don't think people expected Ambrose to be in the last two, so the atmosphere was electric.
4.) Triple H's championship run wasn't boring.
 
#44 ·
1.) Triple H can still put on great matches consistently when he wants to.
2.) People were sick of Reigns and, although fans predicted Triple H come back and win obviously, they still gave him a big pop, especially when he eliminated Reigns.
3.) In the Royal Rumble Reigns won, the remaining three was Kane, Big Show, and Reigns. In the Royal Rumble Triple H won, the last two were Ambrose and HHH and I don't think people expected Ambrose to be in the last two, so the atmosphere was electric.
4.) Triple H's championship run wasn't boring.
1- Yeah,?why Triple H didn't want to put in a great match in the main event of Wrestlemania 32 then? and why he didn't want to put on a great match against Ziggler on Raw?
It's not that Triple H didn't want it, it's that he can't put on a great match anymore.

3 - So people thought for a second that Dean Ambrose was gonna eliminate a returning Triple H, win the royal rumble and become the new WWE Champion while he was IC Champion?

Since Roman destroyed Triple H at TLC it was obvious that he was gonna return at the Royal Rumble and win it, so don't tell me that it wasn't predictable that Triple H was gonna win.
 
#32 ·
triple h can put on far better matches, storylines and brings a sense of legitimacy to the matches, if that makes sense lol plus he has one of the best entrances going. as for kane - he's just tagged along for too long, taking on angles with the consistency of english weather, so it's no surprise people don't give a shit about him anymore. if kane had gone away and made sporadic returns like undertaker, things might be different as for big show, well his matches & "imma giant" schtick got boring half way through the 00s.
 
#71 ·
Triple H wasn't worthy of maineventing Wrestlemania in his prime, so much less now that he's old, he's the guy who has more "Worst Wrestlemania main event matches".

HHH has never drawn as the top guy the way the big stars have. He became very stale in 2010 and right about the long boring promos for sure, during "authority era" he bored the hell out of us with his long boring promos in a weekly basis.

And Triple H always needed to use weapons in his matches to hide his lack of talent, that's why he's the superstar who participated in more gimmick matches.

Besides Triple H is a joke now, he went from being the cerebral assassin to being a sellout big nosed in a suit who hides himself behind his wife, how the hell are we supposed to take him seriously? He shouldn't have mainevented Wrestlemanis 32, he ruined Wrestlemania again by inserting his big nose in it, he should keep in the office while the talented guys are in the main events.

Oh, and what the hell has to do his fucking entrance ? since he has long entrances that means he has to be maineventing Wrestlemania? this is the most moronic comment I've read .
I always pass forward during his entrance because I don't want to fall asleep.
 
#37 ·
He’s a bigger star than the other two, people were expecting to happen, and they were in Orlando, aka NXT country.

I certainly didn’t care for it myself but those are the reasons it didn’t get shit on like Kane and Big Show did.

Plus in 2015, it was obvious Roman was going to win. In 2016, fans were at least given a sliver hope with Ambrose as the final guy.
 
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