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Bret Hart comments on Seth Rollins injuring Finn Balor

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I take no great pleasure in saying “I told you so,” but if you’re a professional wrestler and you keep hurting opponents and or yourself, clearly you’re doing it wrong. I wrestled a very realistic and physical style and not once in 23 yrs did I ever hurt one opponent ever. Seth Rollins needs to improve his technique and become the safest wrestler in the business. I have great respect for Seth. I believe he’ll improve and hopefully stop hurting the talent before someone gets killed. Wrestlers have to trust one another. If a wrestler holds the life of another wrestler in his hands for the sake of his family, wife or children you plain and simply cannot drop it! I saw this coming, if anything WWE producers are negligent for not speaking up about it to him already, instead they’re probably gushing with joy, slapping him on the back telling him “great job!” Bill Goldberg was similar. When I think of Samoa Joe nearly killing Tyson Kidd, then see him continuing to use that deadly finish of his, I just shake my head. It’s not real, it’s only supposed to look real, wrestlers are not crash test dummies!
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#14 ·
Where are you getting that info about not apologizing? I very well may be wrong but I thought Steve said Owen did and was upset over the incident.


As far as what Bret said he might be on to something with Seth. Not saying he is but Seth and WWE needs to look closely at what he is doing and see if there are things he can change to keep guys safer. It is possible this is just a rash of bad luck but it could also be a matter of making mistakes that can be avoided. As far as Joe, as it was pointed out, that was a one time thing. Any time you injure someone you should evaluate what you did to see it was something that can be fixed in the future but a one time thing is not the same as a multiple time thing.
 
#6 · (Edited)
He's honestly just lumping a bunch of accidents together to prove a point, while putting himself over in the process. Great, you've never injured someone, but Owen did and he was great in the ring as well, D'lo was great in the ring, but look at the accident that happened with Droz, things like this happen. Some people aren't just good, their lucky, especially in a business where injury can happen at any time.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Bret is VERY brutal when it comes to being honest, but IMO he's right. Wrestling is not real, its meant to look real. I think that mindset escapes a lot of wrestlers today.
 
#11 ·
I do think a lot of wrestlers in the WWE need to dial it back a little, not just Seth. So many of them do high risk stuff to pop the crowds but ultimately those pops are very throwaway. You only need to take one look at the ratings to see that that style isnt actually making people care any more about the product in the long run anyway.

All the crazy moves in the world cant do anything that a well told story and interesting characters couldnt already do with a lot less risk involved.
 
#15 ·
This, I do agree with, a lot of good looking moves are dangerous, and while the moves may get a reaction, the crowds are mostly meh to a lot of stuff as well. In the long term, this style has always been known to have a shorter time than a more in-ring back style, like Cena's or Bret's.

In that context, I agree, Cena and Bret have a much safer grounded style that leaves injury very unlikely, but I can't say that if either of these guys were doing what Joe and Seth are doing, they wouldn't have had a few injuries on their own rap sheet.
 
#12 ·
Some changes need to be made.

1. No exiting the ring during standard matches. If an opponent accidentally roles out, you wait for him to get back in the ring.

2. Agents need to go through every superstars moveset and remove dangerous moves.

3. Stop signing flippy guys. Instead sign guys that rely on psychology / selling their character.

4. Superstars need to realise that it's not about how many 'cool' moves you know or how big your moveset is. Your character is what gets you over at the end of the day.
 
#13 · (Edited)
The first time I saw that move I thought it looked ridiculously dangerous. It pops the crowd, so I understand why wrestlers do stuff like that. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't exciting.

Anyone claiming Finn took it wrong is retarded. He put his arm down because otherwise his spine would have taken the brunt of it.

If you're gonna do something as dangerous as that, don't release early. Although again, I understand why because it looks much cooler and more vicious when you do do so.

I'm torn between liking it as a fan, but knowing it's wrong for the wrestlers.
 
#17 ·
Austin to Ambrose: "Stop resting on your laurels".

Ambrose: [Works the most mediocre and lazy of matches for the 4th time on PPV this year]

Hart to Rollins: "... you should reflect on it and make it a point through out the rest of your career that you’re never going to injure anyone else like that again. Period."

Rollins: [injures Finn Balor in his first PPV match, destroying Finn's momentum, shoulder, happiness, and WWE's plans for the title.]

These guys might want to start listening more...
 
#20 · (Edited)
I Agree with Bret 100% here.Seth is an unsafe worker I mean he injured Cena,ended Sting's Career,and now put Finn on the shelf for 6 months I'm sorry thats too many time to keep calling it freak accidents.
 
#101 ·
This has been said by many members here. Seth threw Finn with too much force. I think it was instinct. If he didn't put his arm out, maybe he'd been hurt even more badly. Broken arm is preferable to a broken back.

And to your second point, Seth is a heel, but maybe he should remove his move anyway.
 
#25 ·
SPOT ON. Bret looked more realistic and hard hitting than anyone in the company right now AND he was safer AND he could tell a story. Balor vs. Rollins was pretty much a spotfest lets face it. Rollns wasn't working heel or anything much, they just both went out and hit all there shit, and most of there shit is dangerous. Less is more out there IMO try to get the crowd invested in your character and your struggle to win gold, then you don't have to injure your opponent to get a pop.
 
#27 ·
I was waiting for brett to say I told you so. I mean, actually, he did so...I'll have to at least give him that. I still think Balor botched it but that move needs to go.
 
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#28 ·
Bret’s not wrong here. Rollins is pressing his luck with his reckless style. The first time with Cena was a freak accident, the second one with Sting was a case of a 55 yr old wrestler taking moves he shouldn’t be taking in a match that shouldn’t have been booked in the first place. Now with Finn Balor, even if Balor had some nagging injuries, should be a sign that Rollins need to stop being so reckless considering others have done the turnbuckle powerbomb and haven’t injured anyone.

Don’t know why Bret bringing up Joe though. Tyson Kidd supposedly had a pre-existing condition when his injury happened. Plus I’ve never known Joe to hurt anyone, even in TNA’s six sided ring, which is a lot harder than a WWE ring.
 
#122 ·
It's even more, he busted Roman open during a dark match. That's the reason he had that wound by his eye. WWE completely downplayed that, they obv. had to acknowledge it happened, but they tried to keep Seth from getting a bad rep there. Now, it's undeniable that something's off kilter about how he works.
 
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