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Is there any logical reason to keep Reigns as face now?

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#1 ·
You already gave him three consecutive clean losses. you kinda ruined his presentation as the "unbeatable top babyface of the company", his merch sales and stock are probably goin to drop a bit after this.

He also lost his value as a good role model face of the company after getting suspended.

The most money you can get out of him is by turning him heel, so what the fuck is Vince waiting for? He has no other option.
 
#23 ·
I think more important than him being heel or face is actually defining a character for Reigns, because as things stand he is all over the place and there is no consistency to what he says or does.

You can't have Reigns do a full match against Balor as a heel and then as he is coming out of the ring after losing the match have him cut a face promo talking about how he respects Balor.

It is this kind of inconsistent handling of his character that has constantly neutered Reigns over time. You can hardly tell who he really is.
 
#33 · (Edited)
I'm not sure if a heel turn will do anything for him at this point. They had numerous of opportunities to turn him and they blew it everytime. At this point if you turn him, you risk fans simply no selling him out of spite and you take away the soccer moms and the small amount of children he does have. The Rock comprison doesn't work anymore.


Rock debuted at Survivor Series in November of '96. He joined the NoD and turned heel in the summer of '97 in August. Reigns has been around for four years (ironically, also debuting at SvrS in November.) He's been on his own since the summer of '14. That means he's spent two years on his own and the audience fighting his push. He has already underwent numerous of personality changes. He continued to be pushed and it took a doping violation to get the company to move on.


The only way it's comparable to The Rock is if Rocky Maivia had been pushed for over two years nonstop and headlined two consecutive WM's in the process despite fans wishing he'd die. As it stands currently, he wasn't even pushed for a year before they pulled the plug and turned him heel. Reigns has had a lot more time to sour with fans, and despite the fans' instance that he was the wrong guy, he and Vince continued to bend them over. As such, a lot more resentment for him has festered in comparison to The Rock.


Rock could have retired 4 years into his career and he would have went down as one of the most beloved stars of all time and a bona-fide HoFer. Reigns -- whether heel or face -- has never exuded the star power and charisma of a Rock in his 4 years or the flashes of brilliance on the microphone (and he has been given countless of opportunities.) Roman is a lot more likely to turn heel and become another ADR or Sheamus at this point than he is to follow in the footsteps of his cousin. They waited entirely too long. Fans are burnt out and ready to move on. Reigns himself looks spent. Turning him heel or face won't matter at this point. There's a glass ceiling he won't ever break through concerning a big portion of the audience. He's entirely too damaged.



Too little. Too late.
 
#8 ·
It depends on the plans set in place for him. I'm sure fans would be receptive to Reigns in a babyface role if he isn't being booked as the archetypal white-meat poster boy of the promotion. If he was simply booked as a badass asskicking face in the upper-mid / main event picture WITHOUT it coming at the expense of giving other people opportunities then it could very well work. The point is that he needs to naturally progress to a top-spot position... whether he's face or heel means nothing if the writing quality remains the same. A heel turn might freshen up the character, but it would also backfire badly if it DOESN'T work. Maybe he just needs to take a temporary step back in order to take 2 steps forward in the future. In the meantime the WWE can figure out what's best for his character
 
#11 ·
No but that won't stop them from doing a god awful redemption angle anyway. It is going to suck and ruin the show if it happens. Anyone who watches or watched TNA, particularly in 2012 may be able to vouch for this. Everyone has heard of Jeff Hardy's embarrassing incident where he showed up high as fuck to a TNA PPV main event against Sting. This was after showing up high as fuck to a NJPW PPV and damn bear killing Naito, mind you, but TNA didn't do shit about that. Anyway he got in trouble, went to rehab, bunch if other crap. Meanwhile while he was gone TNA's product started getting really good. They built new stars in Bobby Roode, James Storm, and Austin Aries. These guys were killing it in the main event scene having great storylines with awesome matches. TNA was actually entertaining. Then Jeff Hardy came back, had a redemption storyline, won the BFG series and beat Aries for the WHC not 3 months after he won the thing. Jeff proceeded to beat Aries, Roode, and Storm countless times. They dropped to the midcard. Aries and Roode firmed a tag team for no goddamn reason not even 6 months after having a great rivalry over the WHC. They even lost to Jeff in a 3 way while they were partners, meaning that Jeff basically beat them in a handicap match. By this point the product was dead again and sucked and I stopped watching. All of those interesting compelling stars that rose up and reached the brass ring were all buried and forgotten about as soon as golden boy Jeff came back, AFTER EMBARRASSING THE GODDAMN COMPANY AND SPITTING IN TH FACE IF EVERYONE IN THE BACK AND HIS OPPONENT THAT NIGHT! You know who his opponent was? STING! FUCKING STING! Anyway this will happen with Roman too. All if these guys that are getting elevated on Raw like Balor and eventually Owens, Rusev, and Zayn are gonna get killed and buried as soon as Roman's "Redemption" angle starts after the "heat" dies down. The product is gonna be so good, as evidenced on Raw, but just wait until Roman makes his "comeback." The worst part of all of this is that I LIKE Roman. He is one of my favorites and I enjoyed his title reign but he needs to turn heel dammit!
 
#29 ·
If you are going around saying he is being forced down our throats as a face, then how do you turn it around and make him a natural heel knowing that Seth Rollins is considered the top heel?.

This is the problem WWE may have a problem with, HHH wanted Roman Reigns to win the 2015 Royal Rumble, and then Vince had a change of mind and the title eventually went to Seth, and then well, when Seth got injured, Reigns had his chances with mixed results.

The other problem is if you do turn Reigns into a heel "naturally" a decent sized of the crowd will actually cheer for him. You can't make him a Stone Cold version of a heel, that will look unnatural. So, how do you turn him heel without his NXT/FCW heel persona?
 
#40 ·
Nope, Reigns is much more natural as a heel, wrestles better in matches when working as the heel, is able to show off his power more as a heel, and already gets enough heat for it to work.

But they won't do it, because that would mean admitting they were wrong.
 
#6 ·
No.

Tease the "redemption" story all you want, but a heel turn is the way to go.
 
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#20 ·
Actually things have changed already...Finn Balor is the Roman Reigns replacement as the face of the company. That is why they have him beat Reigns and pushed him straight to the title scene on debut night. He will also beat Seth Rollins for the title and things will follow up from there.
 
#27 ·
Well he has a crap ton of "supposed" potential to be a face one day. But just like how women can't valet and still be serious competitors in today's WWE, just like you can't be face of the company if you've ever been a heel...This is something a WWE person would say, but then the only time people cheered Roman, was when he acted heel-like.
 
#53 ·
Of course he should turn heel. He should have turned heel long ago. They've tried like six different version of "babyface Roman" and each one has failed. Pretty much everyone who gets into the ring with him gets cheered over him, be they heel or babyface at the time, and now the suspension just makes it all the worse. Meanwhile, if you book him as a mostly silent monster heel who just destroys everything in his path, that would fit him so much better imo (at least for now).

But WWE has shown many times in that past that they're stubborn about certain things. So I'm not holding my breath on a heel turn for Roman right now.
 
#3 ·
It's common sense, which is why it probably won't happen.
 
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