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Seth Rollins tweets about pro wrestling today

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)






I take it he is talking about pro wrestling as a whole and not just within WWE. But yeah, good times to be a wrestling fan.
 
#45 ·
Agreed. And its not an anti Seth thing or an anti any wrestler in particular thing. Its an anti WWE in general thing. Its so easy for a guy like Seth to sit there and say "wrestling is so amazing right now, everyone should love it". In Seth you have a guy who was pushed to the moon from day one, and all his buddies are in the company as well and mostly pushed well. His view from the top is clouded. Its ridiculous to preach this stuff when even as recently as this year you have guys like Sandow who did everything right, got crazy over...but were given no reward in favour of guys like Seth.

Now granted hes clearly just being a good boy here and a corporate shill. But theres probably some truth to him feeling like wrestling is so amazing when hes the guy that the WWE is presenting as this megastar super wrestler with all the talent and skills in the world. And its incredibly arrogant to suggest that everything is so amazing and everyone must enjoy it.
 
#86 ·
The hypocrisy of some of you people is always a source of amusement. When he says something that you agree with then you applaud and he's dropping truth bombs and all that good shit. But if you disagree? Oh he's a corporate shill, he's doing it to keep his job, excetera excetera. You can't have it both ways. How about we use the novel approach that what he says is his actual opinion? Just like each and everyone of you have an opinion and it's not right nor is it wrong it's just a perspective that he holds from being within the business. It's always funny because this happens anytime someone says something positive about the industry, but the WWE in particular. If there's anything positive to be said then obviously it's a lie, it's shilling, it's some sort of ploy that Vince set them up to. It's really pretty damn sad that adults are incapable of accepting the idea that someone actually believes differently.

The fact of the matter is, he didn't say anything that was inaccurate. The business is in a good place it is exciting there are many options and there's a lot to be interested in an across-the-board. There are so many different promotions available to be enjoyed, televised in one form or another, it's the dream that most professional wrestlers decades ago always looked forward to in the interviews and op-eds. That the sport what is long enough that they were this many options and this many geographical areas . Of course that depends on how jaded you are and your preconceived notions going into the product. If you've already made up your mind that it's all going to suck then it's all going to suck. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy for miserable motherfuckers.

Problem comes when people try to hold the product up to its pinnacle, in both popularity and mainstream consciousness. The things that went into making in propelling that particular era to the stratosphere are no longer possible in today's world. The fans, more importantly society as a whole has changed entirely to the point where it's literally impossible to revert back to the Attitude Era product. You want real hardcore matches & you want chair shots? Then you have the CTE issue and the new consciousness regarding wrestlers health. You want bra and panties matches and things of that nature? The current gender environment wouldn't allow it, it'd be shut down before the show went off the air. You want the Rock and Stone Cold and Triple H making fun of homosexuals, the mentally and physically handicapped, and calling women hoes, sluts, bitches, stunning broads etc? Sponsors would be forced to pull out due to the public outcry. The fact of the matter is you can't go back to that because society as a whole has shifted in a more conscious and sensitive direction where offending someone can cost you your job, business, reputation, marriage, etc. It's a PG product for the newly PG world.

The fact of the matter is that during the time they've been in business, a lot of shit has died out completely. Everything from corporations to car models because of the socioeconomics involved in shifting from one generation to the next. They're still here & expanding during a lull. As long as they continue to adhere to Darwin, they'll still be around for the foreseeable future. Discarding one generation of fans for another, & every wave becomes more challenging and nebulous than the next while the attention span shrinks.

Oh but the ratings. Draw a chart for the business from it's inception to now & you'll notice it's a tale of peaks and Marianas Trenches. Fans from the 70s swore that wrestling wouldn't last another decade, that's life in the trenches. Doubly so when you have lived through the peak.

Ask baseball about how it used to be America's pastime before being thoroughly dethroned. Ask any football fan & they'll tell you today's game is a pale imitation to what it used to be. Ask a fan of Rap or Rock and they'll tell you that they used to make great music but this generation is mostly terrible. Movie fans? Everything is a remake of the good old days. The list goes on but are you noticing a trend? As society shifts, the opinions of it's people shift. What used to be cool is lame and shit that used to be scoffed at is a multi billion dollar industry.

Fans of anything always feel that whatever they're a fan of can be better than what it is. How many of the things that you used to enjoy doing 10, 15, 20 years ago are regular parts of your life today? By & large, very little. Multiply that by a thousand for a niche product that is centered around people settling their conflicts in the ring while wearing the equivalent of underwear for a predetermined result.

Could it be better? Could it be worse? Has it been more popular? Have they lost a big chunk of their clientele during the lull? Yes on all accounts. Does that mean that no one enjoys it? Does that mean that people in the business are incapable of enjoying what they do & thinking it's the best thing since sliced bread?

As someone who's been watching wrestling for quite some time, who follows at least 6 different promotions currently, & actually manages to enjoy quite a bit of it, including the E, I'm inclined to agree with Seth. Then again I've managed to be a fan of Taz, Cena, Flair, Rock, Piper, Rollins, Reigns, Pentagon DARK, Aludra, Jericho, Vader, Savage, Jindrak, Tanahashi, Sting, & the list goes on while some of you can't even fathom being a fan of more than one promotion.

Take a break from your myopic demand that everything cater to your sensibilities & just maybe you'll be able to actually enjoy something.

:pards
 
#10 ·
Nice corporate shill job, Seth.

That is how out of touch WWE and quite frankly wrestlers today are. They keep thinking wresting is "hot" and it just isn't. Yeah, there are many options out there other than WWE right now for people to watch but too little, too late to those that have grown past the corporate, watered down content they are getting in their wrestling.
 
#112 ·
Nice corporate shill job, Seth.

That is how out of touch WWE and quite frankly wrestlers today are. They keep thinking wresting is "hot" and it just isn't. Yeah, there are many options out there other than WWE right now for people to watch but too little, too late to those that have grown past the corporate, watered down content they are getting in their wrestling.
Seriously...can't tell you how many people have given me looks when I tell them I wrestle. They don't even know what professional wrestling is, I have to explain it. They think it's mat wrestling. Almost everyone I talk to about it has no idea that professional wrestling even exists anymore. So many people in the business talk like wrestling's in the best shape it's ever been and that literally everyone that steps through a curtain is the second coming of Hulk Hogan. So much circlejerking and delusional ass-kissing in this business at the moment.
 
#14 · (Edited)
Sounds like he's trying to convince himself that wrestling is better than ever, even though nobody's watching.

Sorry Seth, but the stuff you're putting out is just not as good as wrestling used to be. It's boring and none of the matches seem like there's anything at stake. I can't recall the last time the wrestling seemed significant, other than Daniel Bryan and CM Punk perhaps.

At the end of the day, Seth's just a boring dude who does cross-fit and practises the wrestling moves. There's not much else to him. Even the laugh that he does, he probably practises in front of a mirror everyday. I can imagine a shoot interview with the guy would probably just consist of him putting over his matches and training regiment.
 
#32 ·
At the end of the day, Seth's just a boring dude who does cross-fit and practises the wrestling moves. There's not much else to him. Even the laugh that he does, he probably practises in front of a mirror everyday. I can imagine a shoot interview with the guy would probably just consist of him putting over his matches and training regiment.
I don't think he's boring or boring to listen to at all, Seth has been on Jericho's podcast twice and I enjoyed both episodes.
 
#25 · (Edited)
Give or take a year here or there, wrestling has kinda sucked for about 10-12 years now. The last decade was a complete loss for WWE because they didn't make one single god damn guy outside of Cena. And now the kids who watched during the Cena era are all grown up and have seemingly left the product. That is what happens when you only make one guy in a 10 year time period.

They are trying to pick up the pieces now with the brand split, but they have a HUGE hill to climb thanks to the last 10 years. WWE has no one but themselves to blame and I have zero sympathy for them.
 
#33 ·
Yep the chickens have come home to roost after a decade of catering the whole company to one guy. Their were so many opportunities to create other stars along the way but they either ignored it or deliberately cut their legs off.

Then they spend another two and half years trying to create another single superstar cutting the legs off another generation of guys AGAIN to try and do it, they just didn't learn.

The WWE isn't catering to anybody right now, they think they are but thay aren't.
 
#37 ·
Except you won't. You'll watch, like you do, and then come running to the forums with all your cynical mark belly-aching, and all will be right in the universe once again.

Regarding Seth: He's absolutely right. The generation that Punk started in the 'E, and Bryan took to the top, is in full swing. There's a generation of talent in WWE now - one that includes several "home grown" stars - that is basically unrivaled in the last 15-20 years. Not a show living off its legacy or nostalgia - and hopefully, with Reigns cooling off - one that isn't centered around ONE guy. If you'd rather have MVP, Carlito, Mr. Kennedy, Bobby Lashley, et al over Ambrose, Styles, Rollins, and Cesaro, idk what to tell you. Man, those were some dark years.
 
#12 ·
I don't buy it. Guys keep trying to put this era over when it's been going on for years now (it's not suddenly a "new era" this is the same post-Punk/Bryan era we've been in for 4 years now) and there's no memorable shit about it, nothing special about it, and most importantly, it says NOTHING. Eras of the past have become famous or remembered fondly because the product reflected the attitude of fans. Today's product....well maybe today's product kind of does. Since wrestling fans are lame as fuck these days. :lol
 
#134 ·
Seth Rollins is a hollow shell of the past.

The truth is WWE storylines these days are ridiculously weak.

In 2000 there were multilayered storylines. Every segment built up a part of the story. Now its so formulaic and boring.

This brand split will raise interest briefly. But to brag about 2 good shows in a row is funny.

Back in 2000 they probably had 50 + good shows in a row counting PPVs Raws and Smackdowns. And back then Smackdown was a real continuation of Raw and wasn't really a B show.

That's because they had the talent with the charisma and interview skills to carry it in 2000.

1998, 1999, 2000 all broke the attendance record for crowds over 10,000.

The Rock in 2000 headlined 100 + shows with crowds over 10,000.

In 2015 Seth Rollins the biggest drawing card in terms of attendance headlined 18 shows with crowds over 10,000. (As per the Wrestling Observer Newsletter).

The difference is stark. And I expect this year to be worse.

All the workrate geeks needs to deal with it.
 
#90 ·
"If you don't love pro wrestling across the board right now and you're not telling all your friends about it then you're just missing out." Seth Rollins.

WWE has no major competition and he's telling his viewers to tell his friends?
That's like Subway franchisees telling their customers to tell their friends and family about their mediocre product while their ads are in our face all the time while they have no major competition left. That's not how promotion works, there must be substance, but it's lacking.

I wonder if Seth Rollins will become the new spokesperson of Sears. "Tell your friends about it..." Nice p.r stunt, genius.
 
#131 ·
Rollins is just being a good soldier and touting the company line. To be fair he probably does believe this too. The reality is the business caters to a niche fan base of weirdo work rate marks and little kids, even people who are a fan of the product or that NXT shit can at least admit that much lol. Wrestling at one point in time was very intertwined with pop culture, but the WWE's decisions to constantly turn the show into another version of ROH, as well as the weirdo fans have taken the WWE back into the dark age.
 
#133 · (Edited)
I don't know why one would find wanting to see good matches "weird." Plus, I've never seen anyone here claim that they just want good matches and nothing else. Most people want both good matches AND good storylines, which WWE should be able to supply. Not everything has to be good. No one hits on everything. But at least have a decent batting average..
 
#23 ·
I think what he meant to say was wrestling died in 2006 and the only reason he has a job is because the fans are nostalgic and don't want to let go. Clearly, we can see that as time goes on the fans are slowly walking away from it for things that are much more enjoyable. Even I can admit that I'm clinging to something that really isn't there anymore. Wrestling kinda sucks now.
 
#53 ·
I like what WWE is doing at the moment...but to say that Professional Wrestling is hot nowadays is just :lol worthy

Yeah, I watch WWE, NJPW and little bits from PWG & TNA, but the fact is: Professional Wrestling isn't better nowadays compared to other years. It has been entertaining? Yes, the most entertaining in 10 years, easily. It is hot? Fuck that noise, it isn't.

It has long ways to go to get hot again...and I like Seth, but what "he" said (maybe it was him selling the product, maybe it was a corporate tweet, whatever) is just...NO.
 
#16 ·
The company he works for has the best wrestlers on the planet who fight on a weekly basis on live international tv and consistently put on good to great matches. The storylines and geenral booking is pretty inconsistent but it's miles better than what TNA, ROH and co offer. Seriously, it's not even a competition. All those companies are dress rehearsals for guys to make it to the Big E.
 
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