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Based off information from Reddit by people who listened to his recent audio update. I think you have to pay to hear it so I haven't heard it myself, but a lot of different people are saying it and it seems reliable. Im sure it will surface on Youtube soon.

AJ Styles world title reign incoming :grin2: :dance

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Dave says so little information is out. Has heard from people in the company Vince is really pumped up, filled with ideas as far as talent goes. Expect Vince to be aggressive in going after talent that is not signed to WWE/NXT currently.

This move creates a greater barrier for the casual fan who doesn't WANT to watch 5-9 hours of wrestling a week and finds it overwhelming, but will be great for the super fan who feels committed to watching all WWE content.

If you put this whole roster on paper, yes it works for 2 strong shows. However, could be shortsighted due to the potential for injury.
Alvarez says they fucked this up the first time. Would love to see it work, but both guys don't sound optimistic. Less talent on the shows, the 3 hour RAW will suffer. More matches with guys that fans don't care about. Could hurt ratings, causing them to quickly panic and start sharing talent across brands (like before).

Dave says it's probably a given that Cena and Roman will be the headliners on the two separate brands. Points out that now the amount of matchups that can be created are cut by probably 40%.

Dave says the decision RIGHT NOW is that there will be TWO world championships. Bryan hates it. Also, IC title will be on one show and US title on the other. It will be a Stephanie and Shane split, one on each show.

No info yet on the women's situation, hasn't been decided.
http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wwe-news/big-update-wwe-brand-split/


Source: WrestlingObserver.com

"WWE made the decision to have a brand split within the last few weeks. SmackDown going live on Tuesday nights on the USA Network has been talked about for a while now.

Vince McMahon is reportedly ‘pumped up” about the brand split as he has several ideas for SmackDown. The draft will take place on the July 11th episode of RAW in Detroit. It’s said that many talents have no idea which brand they will end up on.

WWE will be calling up more stars from NXT to help fill the two main rosters. Also, WWE plans to go after NJPW and Mexico talents.

The Intercontinental Title is expected to be on RAW while the United States Title will be on SmackDown. The WWE Tag Team Titles will likely be on both shows. There are people within WWE that are under the impression that the Women’s division will be exclusive to one show.

There is a lot of talk of having one WWE Title, and WWE will use that champion on both shows."
Apparently from Meltzer's latest podcast according to Reddit sources.

He also reaffirms two titles are looking really likely, and WWE have begin to map out the "who, where, when and how" of the two champions long term.

Very exciting news.
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Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

Best news of all time. It's morning in WWE again......potentially. The worst thing they EVER did was merging the belts. This has provided hope again, which I know is a dangerous thing. I'm gonna remain pessimistic about what this means for Bray or Ambrose, but this is dynamite news.
 
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Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

Best news of all time. It's morning in WWE again......potentially.
And you are back! :ghost

Can't tell you how much I missed you.

And I am straight ..

You are one of the legend tweeners of this forum :bow
 
#34 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

I really don't like this.. If you are the WORLD champion, there should only be one. This brand-split feels like a step backwards
This. The whole point of being a World Champion is that not everyone can win it, and that there's only one. Which is why it's so important when someone does finally win it. There being two World Titles just cheapens the idea, imo.
 
#51 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

I was never a fan of having two World Champions. To me, it diminished the importance of being World Champion if you had twice as many opportunities to get one and guys were switching brands left and right to the point that if you failed at getting one title, you could just go for the other one.

If it were up to me, I'd have the WWE World Champ appear on both shows with two forms of competition going on. Who gets the shot and what brand gets the shot at any given point.

It would be advantageous to make the IC and US Champs the Brand exclusive singles champions. WWE World Champion is champ of the whole company while the IC/US champ is the signature champion of the brand they represent.

I would also either have the Tag and Women's Champs appear on both shows OR have all the tag teams on one and all the woman on the other. Create an identity for the brand by featuring a specialty division. What I want to present is the disaster of a ton of tag teams be broken up and the division being split too thin over two shows.
 
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Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

2 WORLD TITLES.




WWE just pacifying the IWC once again. I bet they'll give it to Cesaro, Styles, Zayn etc. Since they'll never win the real WWE title how bout we just make up another title out of thin air? They'll love it! While we're at it, maybe we can call it the IWC Title. :vince fpalm
 
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Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

Does this mean they will break Roman's title in half, because that's the one that contains the lineage of both.

Unless they create another brand new one.

I guess the prevailing answer will be "it doesn't matter". smh.
 
#56 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

This helps no one. There's still only one Royal Rumble winner, and only one WrestleMania main event. The other belt just goes off to the side. We're just back to 2013.
Elimination Chaamber returns again for the number 1 contender. That still means and says a whole lot about the other belt that 6 guys kill themselves in there to be the contender for it at mania
 
#113 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

I think alot of people talking about the belt being treated secondary here are too young to comment. In 2010 onwards, sure, the WHC was treated secondary, but before that neither belt was above the other at all.

2008 was the last great year of the brand split, we had Taker vs Edge on SmackDown, and Jericho and others on RAW. It wasn't the best year but it was strong, neither title was beyond the other, and each main evented their fair share.

Before that, it was even bigger. The early days of the brand split was amazing, with Evolution/Goldberg/others on RAW, and of course, Lesnar/Angle ect on the other.

If they treat both shows seriously, with the talent they have, it will work, if they don't it wont. Remember, the stars make the belt, Taker holding it exclusively on SmackDown gave it legitimacy, Thwagger didn't.

Talks of de-valuing only came when the rosters started to be shared between the two, so before you even comment, maybe grow up a bit and consider there was a time it worked, and fuck, did it work well.

TH
 
#115 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

I think alot of people talking about the belt being treated secondary here are too young to comment. In 2010 onwards, sure, the WHC was treated secondary, but before that neither belt was above the other at all.

2008 was the last great year of the brand split, we had Taker vs Edge on SmackDown, and Jericho and others on RAW. It wasn't the best year but it was strong, neither title was beyond the other, and each main evented their fair share.

Before that, it was even bigger. The early days of the brand split was amazing, with Evolution/Goldberg/others on RAW, and of course, Lesnar/Angle ect on the other.

If they treat both shows seriously, with the talent they have, it will work, if they don't it wont. Remember, the stars make the belt, Taker holding it exclusively on SmackDown gave it legitimacy, Thwagger didn't.

Talks of de-valuing only came when the rosters started to be shared between the two, so before you even comment, maybe grow up a bit and consider there was a time it worked, and fuck, did it work well.

TH
And guess what? It won't work well here because this creative is even worse from those years from 2010-2012 or whenever the split ended. That's the main issue we have with this move.
 
#38 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

Whats the point?

WWE have proved that having a "world title" means fuck all if you're not their chosen one.

The WHC was essentially the IC title 80% of the time and a number of WWE champions were undermined possibly intentionally sabotaged to make sure they never looked equal to Cena.

I know fans are desperate for the company to treat the world title like it's the Vince Lombardi or Jules Rimet trophy. I am too it adds tension, drama and emotion to the matches.

I guarantee the WWE sees it as little more than a prop and sneers at anyone that values it.

Have two, have three for all it matters.
 
#44 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

Whats the point?

WWE have proved that having a "world title" means fuck all if you're not their chosen one.

The WHC was essentially the IC title 80% of the time and a number of WWE champions were undermined possibly intentionally sabotaged to make sure they never looked equal to Cena.

I know fans are desperate for the company to treat the world title like it's the Vince Lombardi or Jules Rimet trophy. I am too it adds tension, drama and emotion to the matches.

I guarantee the WWE sees it as little more than a prop and sneers at anyone that values it.

Have two, have three for all it matters.
I hope the WWE doesn't go full retard and start handing over secondary world title reigns to future jobbers like someone like Apollo Crews, just for the LULZ. They have already tarnished the legacy of the World Heavyweight Championship when Khali, Swagger and Ziggler won it. Disgusting and terrible. Khali was used as a prop for Indian market, but to give it to Swagger and then use him as a low card jobber, is humiliating to my senses.
 
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Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

Kinda ironic that if WWE would've waited a few months to unify the belts in 2013-14 they wouldn't have the RR 2014 debacle, Batista would have won the WWE championship and Bryan the WHC on WM. Then Brock Lesnar had become the first unify world champion.

Morons...

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Anyway I hope they don't AWARDED the World Heavyweight championship this time like they did in 2003. The first champion has to be an ex-former world champ like Cena/Orton to give the title some credibility but I hope they book a tournament this time.
 
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Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

I used to be against the idea of two world titles. BUT if it means that other guys are going to now have title runs and not just one guy, I am happy with it. There is WAY too much talent on this roster to NOT have a title run. Fuck that. Let's do it.
So you'd rather them win the 2nd place trophy instead?

Fuck that. How about having a main event scene with multiple guys instead of about 4.
 
#123 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

What the hell is this revisionist history that the Smackdown title was always the geek title? News flash dorks, it became the geek title in 2010 when Jack Swagger won the title, the 7 years prior to that, the Smackdown title was on par with the Raw title.

Do we just suddenly forget the fact that CM Punk/Jeff hardy main-evented Summerslam 2009 over RANDY ORTON AND JOHN CENA??? Or the Edge/Undertaker feud in 2008? It wasn't all gloom for the Smackdown belt.
 
#131 · (Edited)
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

What the hell is this revisionist history that the Smackdown title was always the geek title? News flash dorks, it became the geek title in 2010 when Jack Swagger won the title, the 7 years prior to that, the Smackdown title was on par with the Raw title.

Do we just suddenly forget the fact that CM Punk/Jeff hardy main-evented Summerslam 2009 over RANDY ORTON AND JOHN CENA??? Or the Edge/Undertaker feud in 2008? It wasn't all gloom for the Smackdown belt.
Exactly what I said a few pages back. The SmackDown title closed out a lot of shows in the brand split years, such as WrestleMania 24, Survivor Series 2006, Royal Rumble 2006, One Night Stand 2008, etc. It wasn't until 2010 that the title began losing its value, but even then it closed out one more PPV that year, that being Hell in a Cell.
 
#191 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

"THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. HOW DARE WWE SPILT THE BRANDS AND LET NEW GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO HOLD THE TITLE. I'M A BUTHURT LITTLE BITCH" Basically sums up 98% of the posts in here.

WWE is actually taking a chance and shaking things up, the very thing everyone wanted. Now guys who would normally never get a chance to main event will, plus NXT will be bought up and strengthen both the roster and both shows. This is good for everyone. Stop bitching.
 
#192 ·
Re: WWE plans for 2 World Titles, according to Meltzer

"THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. HOW DARE WWE SPILT THE BRANDS AND LET NEW GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO HOLD THE TITLE. I'M A BUTHURT LITTLE BITCH" Basically sums up 98% of the posts in here.

WWE is actually taking a chance and shaking things up, the very thing everyone wanted. Now guys who would normally never get a chance to main event will, plus NXT will be bought up and strengthen both the roster and both shows. This is good for everyone. Stop bitching.
And when WWE poaches all the talent I like from other promotions so they can do nothing with them because they just need bodies for the brand split, is that gonna be great for me? Why do people suddenly think that having a brand split is going to make things entertaining and make the writing better. The creative department still sucks, the shows won't get any better, this is just going to give everyone on the roster a chance to get shit booking and be boring.

Bravo WWE, you're brain-washing knows no bounds.
 
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