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Is Reigns Still a Bad Worker?

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#1 ·
This has nothing to do with how over Reigns is, or his booking, or anything else other thing his in-ring work.

To be honest, I'm surprised that a lot aren't able to seperate they're hate for his character and booking vs his wrestling skills. The consensus still seems to be that he's a bad worker who needs to be carried.

Personally, I don't see it. The guy has a good offensive moveset, one that is perfect for his character being a powerhouse. That crucifix powerbomb was impressive and shows he's still adding moves. And his selling is consistent and believable. And he's playing his part in putting on good matches.

What is your take on his in-ring skills?
 
#8 ·
Yep he still has a lot to work on despite his improvements. He would fit better in midcard and be accepted easier instead of being shoved down our throats as the next top face of the WWE. Just let him spend some time in the midcard where he belongs until he's ready to actually get a push.
 
#5 ·
He's improved, but still definitely isn't deserving for the top spot as the next face of the WWE just yet. He needs to improve more and establish himself (preferably as a heel), before we would accept him as a babyface. Right now, no matter how hard he works, he still wouldn't succeed as a babyface. Sometimes it isn't the matter of his effort, it is the matter whether he has what it takes in terms of ability and talent. Just get him out of the title picture and let him improve himself more, as there is way more superior talent in line for the WHC.
 
#6 ·
He's not bad he's not good he's mediocre or slightly above that but he'll get better over time.
 
#7 ·
He's gotten better but not by match. He gets carried in his matches and is being put with good workers for a reason. His stamina has gotten better but still not that great which I doubt ever is resolved. He'll never be a good worker but he can be decent at best, which still isn't good for the push he's been getting.
 
#10 ·
I think we're far from the point in time where people were debating if he is good or bad, and I don't think many people actually care.

The issue is how he is booked to stand tall above everyone else to the point that all the others look weak, very weak. I think I said 1000 times, but the sooner they realize they need a strong main event card, the better the reception of Reigns will be. I may not like him at all, but if he has an equal in Rollins, or Wyatt, or Ambrose, or whoever you want to push, I may just focus on my favourite and skip his segments, therefore giving him a break. Right now, I either stop watching or deal with his lumbering shadow casted over everyone else.
 
#11 · (Edited)
He's miles better than what he was, he's good in ring, but not great, he can put on a good match if he's in there with a supreme ring worker. His ring skills aren't the problem with him though really, it's his over protection at times that people get tired of. It's not him, it's his booking. People are sick of him masquerading as a face when all signs show that he needs to be a heel.

A lot of the problems that he has are caused by the WWE themselves.
 
#13 ·
He's not a bad worker, he looks like a monster. He doesn't have a character to even care about.
 
#16 · (Edited)
He's improved quite a bit IMHO, esp for the big matches. His booking is still fucked which is difficult to pin the blame soley on his doorstep tbh. He's far from as bad as a worker as some people like to make out. Not saying he's Styles good or anything, but he is improving.

I thought he was telling a good story in their Payback match at the start and making it more of a 'big man/smaller man' kinda match and using his power more. I've yet to see the ER match but I am looking forward to it.
 
#17 ·
I think anyone that isn't over the top partial can see he's been very good in big matches for 2 years now. Plus he's got the great look you want, I have no problem with him being the top dog. I only wish they would write him as a full blown, asshole heel.
 
#18 ·
I don't think he's a spectacular worker like a Shawn or Bret, but he's not a an awful wrestler like Brackuss or Glacier. He's got some skills and I think he does a fine enough job. Hell, some of the most popular superstars in history couldn't really work, namely Warrior and Hogan.
 
#20 ·
It would be generous to say that he's average by the standards of WWE's roster.

EDIT: Just so the marks don't get pissy; the average of WWE's current roster is actually pretty high. Still would be generous to describe him as such.

That is a valid point. PUt him back in the mid late 80's with Warrior, Hogan, Andre, and guys like that and he's just as good as them. But compared to the people today, Zayn, Rollins, Owens, Ambrose, Cesaro just a to name a few, he's just not as good, but he does a fine enough job for me.
 
#21 ·
He's not bad. He's just really...box? Like there's not too much grace to what he does. It still looks like he's thinking about doing what he does before he does it. He rarely ever looks natural.

He's not bad. He just needs time. His booking is annoying and so are his mannerisms.
 
#23 · (Edited)
I'll say the same thing for Reigns that I've been saying about Cena for 11 years.

My problems with him go beyond his in ring ability or generally assumed lack thereof.

But since this topic is about his ring skills....

He's a great hot tag guy. The Shield was perfect for him because he was able to be in that role and do really well with it.

As a singles star....he's a work in progress. He's not as clunky and awkward as he used to be and his matches at least have a middle now. (Before it would just be start hot, meander around and do nothing, then finish).

However, him being a what he is now makes you wonder how certain guys become favored sons and others don't. I mean I look at somebody like Big Cass and I see most if not all of Roman's positives and very few of the negatives. I see Cesaro and I think "What is he not doing that Roman is? Because whatever ti is, it isn't obvious to me".
 
#25 ·
All hate aside, he showed last night (in that almost completely one sided match of awful booking) that he himself can carry a match, even if it is at the expense of one of the best in the world and Reigns shouldn't even break the top 100.
 
#27 · (Edited)
Well, I would say his in-ring ability never was something that bothered me, he puts on a competent enough match given his routine. I've personally never been a fan of just just looking at one facet of a performer in a discussion, it feels rather limiting. I would like to see him sell more, but then we run into other problems you wanted shove away.

Of course for that matter, I'd like to see more selling all around. Proper selling and not bouncing Zig syndrome.
 
#28 ·
This has nothing to do with how over Reigns is, or his booking, or anything else other thing his in-ring work.

To be honest, I'm surprised that a lot aren't able to seperate they're hate for his character and booking vs his wrestling skills. The consensus still seems to be that he's a bad worker who needs to be carried.

Personally, I don't see it. The guy has a good offensive moveset, one that is perfect for his character being a powerhouse. That crucifix powerbomb was impressive and shows he's still adding moves. And his selling is consistent and believable. And he's playing his part in putting on good matches.

What is your take on his in-ring skills?
Herein lies a good part of the problem. Reigns is not nearly as strong as they want to portray him to be. Compare his "feats of strength" to what Cena or Lesnar have done through the years. F5 big show, or carry both Big Show and Edge at the same time.Reigns has problems with that one-arm lift powerbomb thingy..

And yes, he´s improved, but still needs a better opponent who does the majority of the work. Which would be perfectly okay if it was an IC or US title we were talking about ;)
 
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