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Seth Rollins - Transitional Champion to Roman Reigns

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#1 ·
It's relatively clear that since Roman Reigns was not embraced by the fanbase between the Royal Rumble and WrestleMania 31, the WWE called a late audible and decided to put the belt on Seth Rollins. What may be less clear, but still seems obvious, is that Rollins is merely a transitional champion until such time as the backlash against Reigns subsides to a point where the belt can be moved to him. It also seems fairly obvious that Reigns will win the belt at WrestleMania 32, which leaves the following questions:

1) What is the short and long-term fate of Seth Rollins?

2) How long will the title be held by Roman Reigns? My personal opinion is that he will be pushed harder than Cena ever was, and will hold the belt for at least 18 months after winning the title.

3) What will be the fan reaction to a Reigns title run, especially a lengthy run? Will WWE succeed in building a Cena-like fanbase of youngsters to make a Roman Reigns title reign financially viable?
 
#2 ·
1) What is the short and long-term fate of Seth Rollins?

Short term - punished and given jobber status for tanking the ratings
Long term - future endeavored


2) How long will the title be held by Roman Reigns? My personal opinion is that he will be pushed harder than Cena ever was, and will hold the belt for at least 18 months after winning the title.

The title will be held until WrestleMania 33, where he will face off against John Cena, who will turn heel to gain the title.

3) What will be the fan reaction to a Reigns title run, especially a lengthy run? Will WWE succeed in building a Cena-like fanbase of youngsters to make a Roman Reigns title reign financially viable?

The casuals already LOVE Roman Reigns. Roman is an amazing ring worker now and will use that to his advantage in winning the smarks over.
 
#22 ·
1) What is the short and long-term fate of Seth Rollins?

Short term - punished and given jobber status for tanking the ratings
Long term - future endeavored
BWAHAHAHA.. you believe they would let Rollins go after putting so much money into him? I believe Vince will cut off both hands first.

Short term - He'll be dropping the title @ WM32 after a year-long dominant run where he went over the roster and part-timers. It'll probably go to Roaming Range. They'll then spend the 3 years after that trying to get Range over by putting him over anything that moves, as the real fan exodus begins. You think the ratings are bad now? Just wait until SuperReigns kicks in.

Long term - Rollins is already a made star and will become like Orton.
 
#5 ·
That's the odd thing. He's clearly a transitional champion because Roman Reigns remained the end-game for WWE. Reigns is the chosen one to replace Cena as the WWE figurehead. He's been protected and kept extremely strong during this period. The puzzle for WWE has been to mute the backlash enough before giving the belt to Reigns. At some point it was decided that it would be a full year, and Reigns would get the belt at WrestleMania 32 (possibly in a Shield triple threat).

Yet a one-transitional champion is almost a contradiction. Still, it is Reigns that is the future of the WWE for the next 5 - 8 years, and Rollins will be a supporting player.

And no, I'm not a fan of this. Ambrose should be that guy, but because of height and possibly something as simple as his hairline is being made a supporting player too.
 
#8 ·
1. short term he'll take a step back to give people a break from Main Event Rollins. Long Term I say this all the time but Bray and The Shield guys are highly favored he'll be fine.

2. Reigns will probably get a solid 4 month reign. I see no reason to believe he'd hold it a year let alone 18 months

3. Mixed certain fans just don't like Reigns let alone face Reigns. Then if he turns heel it'll be mixed because certain fans will now like him because "Arrogant Reigns is real Reigns"
 
#9 ·
1) Short term - Losing the title.
Long term - Transition to the midcard.

2) 4 - 6 months at best.

3) Only for the ones that support him.
 
#11 ·
1) Short Term - Probably chase the title for a few months after he loses it
Long Term - Probably upper mid card fueds for a while, can see him getting another couple of World title wins in the future
2) 18 months? That's nauseating but knowing Vince it'll probably happen, I'd say around 5-8 months
3) Depends on how he's booked and how long he has it for but it'll probably be mixed
 
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#13 · (Edited)
Yeah, just like it was "obvious" Reigns was winning at Mania this year, right? I thought the same thing, but lets not assume when they can just as easily call another audible.

1) What is the short and long-term fate of Seth Rollins?

Short term: His heel run has been a complete failure and he needs to be dialed back drastically. There's nothing "transitional" about this reign. It's long and painful, and it needs to stop.

Long term: He'd be a great face to pair with the other workhorses.


2) How long will the title be held by Roman Reigns? My personal opinion is that he will be pushed harder than Cena ever was, and will hold the belt for at least 18 months after winning the title?

At least 6 months. I don't like long title reigns, but if Roman must have one, then he needs to be a heel for it.

3) What will be the fan reaction to a Reigns title run, especially a lengthy run? Will WWE succeed in building a Cena-like fanbase of youngsters to make a Roman Reigns title reign financially viable?

Mixed, like during the build to Fast Lane. A company sponsored babyface with "THE LOOK" getting pushed is never going to be universally liked. Reigns has proven all of his doubters wrong with several great matches, yet you still hear the same shit about him being bad over a year and a half later. Some of them will never be satisfied, and they'll always make an excuse for why "he isn't ready." Reigns is already a financial success with the youngsters and women. He sells some of the most merch, and that's his main fanbase. The issue is winning over some of the reasonable dissenters by showing he won't be corny like Cena for a decade. Bring back his edge and he'll be fine.
 
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Yeah, just like it was "obvious" Reigns was winning at Mania this year, right? I thought the same thing, but lets not assume when they can just as easily call another audible.

Reigns has proven all of his doubters wrong with several great matches, yet you still hear the same shit about him being bad over a year and a half later. Some of them will never be satisfied, and they'll always make an excuse for why "he isn't ready."
For the first one: It was obvious he was getting the belt until he got shit all over. They wanted him to get cheered because he beat every fan's hero, DB, all the while DB admitting Reigns was the better man and deserving it. When they saw that didn't work, they changed the plan.

That was no different than when Batista got attacked by ADR before their match at EC last year and they wanted to gain fans sympy but everybody still shit all over him even though "the odds were stacked against him" so they put DB in the WM XXX main event.

In conclusion, WWE can't force the majority of people to like a guy they don't like, no matter how hard they try.

For your second part: When he works a match with somebody who isn't a great worker and can pull together an even slightly memorable match, then I'd say he's "proven his doubters wrong". For now though, he's worked with Bryan and Lesnar who are two of the best workers of all time. When he worked with Wyatt, who isn't a world class performer, his match shit the bed. For me, he "isn't ready" because he's just not entertaining when I watch. He can't talk, his moveset is shit, and he can't carry a match (which a top guy should be able to do).
 
#15 ·
Assuming he loses the title at wm32 a year long title reign is not what I called a transitional fuckin champion
 
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#16 ·
Rollins is not a transitional champion, he's the man :rollins
 
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I honestly think Reigns is winning the title at WM 32, the Champion is Rollins and what better story for Reigns to win the title off of his traitorous brother who stole the title one year before WM 32.

If Reigns has the title, what about Sheamus, he has the money in the bank and when will he cash in on him. Since Reigns is probably the next face of the company, his first reign is going to be long, but where does that leave Sheamus, maybe Sheamus cashes in on Reigns right before next money in the bank, which would be dumb since Wrestlemania to Mitb isn't a long reign for the next face, but if Reigns beats sheamus on his cash in attempt, then that makes sheamus look bad and Reigns super human which no one wants. They need to figure this problem out.
 
#24 ·
Frankly I'd like to see the process sped up and have Reigns vs Cena at Wrestlemania 32 instead of waiting til 33, but pretty much as the OP stated, start with a face vs face and depending on who gets the more cheers, have the other turn heel or at least fade the least popular guy out for a few months after.

That being said, Rollins title reign is in a very weird category. Same thing as Orton's title reign that lead up to wrestlemania 30, I wouldn't quite call it a transitional one but it seems quite clear that he's only holding on to the belt for so long because it will turn into a rub for whomever beats him, even though the strength of that rub is debatable.

As for the title reign, it's pretty clear that it's been a flop. He's had all eyes and attention on him out the gate and it's only damaged the product in the long run. And yes, I'm aware that he lost to Cena a bunch of times recently, it seems pretty obvious they did that because they are planning on wrapping this shit up. I say have Reigns win the title at Survivor Series (and putting an end to the authority at the same time) and then have Cena win the Rumble (which sucks I know lol) and have the 2 face off at Mania, or make it a triple threat match (not sure who the third guy would be, but definitely not Rollins).
 
#26 ·
Possibly. I looked it up and Miz actually has one of the longer title reigns since April 2008...

1. CM Punk (434 days)
2. Brock Lesnar (224 days)
3. HHH (210 days)
4. Seth Rollins (195 days and counting)
5. Randy Orton (161 days)
6. The Miz (160 days)
7. Sheamus (91 days)
8. Randy Orton (90 days)
9. John Cena (84 days)
10. John Cena (77 days)
 
#36 ·
This post right here is why this isn't a 'transitional' title reign.

As for after he drops the belt, whenever that is, he'll be an upper mid-card/main event face, going in and out of the main event just like anyone else has, including Cena and Reigns themselves. Nothing wrong with that. After this reign, I want Seth to really start building up his match resume with great matches. Really, really looking forward to that. That resume of very good - great matches will build up fast when he turns face.
 
#29 ·
I am not so sure they didn't have it planned that Rollins would win the title the way he did at WrestleMania, so I would say he's not a transitional champion in that regard, either. (And as stated, he's held the title for about 200 days now, which is way past transitional.)

Rollins is in a great spot and nothing is going to happen to him. He'll main event for years (upper main-event while without the title) and have multiple title reigns. Seth has played his heel role very well, is comfortable on the mic, and gets great reactions in the ring. Sure, his character may be screwed in how he's booked, but that's hardly his fault.

And one of these days, Vince will probably die. Maybe. So Rollins should be okay.
 
#31 ·
1) What is the short and long-term fate of Seth Rollins?

Being a jobber if he's a heel (pretty much the same as he is now), being in a similar level to Ziggler if he's a face.

2) How long will the title be held by Roman Reigns?

I hope longer than CM Punk.

3) What will be the fan reaction to a Reigns title run, especially a lengthy run? Will WWE succeed in building a Cena-like fanbase of youngsters to make a Roman Reigns title reign financially viable?

The fans will love it, the IWC will complain.
 
#33 ·
I know Roman will have a decent run as WWE champ, but since he will be the guy who all the roster will like to defeat he won't be the ''superman'' champ John Cena is now.

McMahon has learned he can't make the next face champ a clone of the earlier, when he failed to make Lex Luger the next Hulk Hogan.
That's why I think he'll be the face champ who succeed ''with a little help from his friends''.
He will be the face champ who gets into many teammatches and with the likes of Orton, Ziggler, Ryback and of course Ambrose he will win.
And at the end of every Raw we will see him like a tired Flint of G.I. JOE who got the victory in a team effort.
That's my two cents predicting the future.:genius
 
#39 ·
Transitional Champ=few weeks.

Seth Rollins is not a transitional champ.
 
#42 ·
Give Reigns the belt for 18 months, I BEG you!
And watch the ship sink.
 
#43 ·
1.The long term fate of Seth Rollins is upper mid card to main event level whether he is a heel or face. He will slide in and out of the title picture. Although, if he goes back to fighting for mid card titles, I would consider him pretty much done as a main event guy. We will just have to wait and see.

2.Roman will hold the title for about 9 to 12 months going over all the top heels and he will likely pick up victories over Cena and Lesnar along the way to truly establish him.

3.The reaction to this run will be mixed. He will be loved by some and hated by more, but he will booed out of the building when they go to smark cities, especially ones like Brooklyn and Philly. They won't give a fuck though because hey, it worked with Cena, it can work for someone else. I can see them succeeding in building a young fan base for him. Kids like winners, notice Reigns is the only full timer that gets Cena level protection, his booking alone will help him get over with kids and move some merch.
 
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