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So.... why did Sandow get buried?

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#1 ·
This guy happened to get some of the biggest pops every week for 8 consecutive months. The logical thing to do would have been to at the very least have him beat the Miz and then give him a decent midcard push. Ideally he would have gotten a main event push, because that's what he truly deserves. But a midcard push would have sufficed.

Instead they take him off RAW completely and he's doing some weekly comedy shit on superstars.

Sandow has every tool to be a successful main event talent. He's charismatic, entertaining, has really good mic skills and can play any character. And when given the time (Cena 2013) he can put on a good match. He's far more entertaining than most of the main event talent nowadays.
 
#2 ·
because there is a roster full of far more talented people than him

Damien Sandow fucked himself by playing his shitty roles so well. Now that management know he can play comedic roles, that's all he's going to get. Dude was far more popular as Mizdow than he was as The Intellectual Savior, and Mizdow ain't a main event gimmick.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Well Daniel Bryan managed to get over with a comedy gimmick and when he started main eventing he became a more realistic character. Same should have happened with Sandow. Besides, no one except Wyatt even has a character nowadays.

What are you talking about? Why does teaming with some random jobber that never should have been hired in the first place and beating him warrant a main event level push.
Because Sandow was one of the most over guys on the show at that point and has the talent to be a main eventer? Why do Reigns and Rollins get a push despite not really being good at anything? Ok Rollins is good in the ring, but that doesn't warrant a main event push either.
 
#6 ·
because, wwe.

I know that sounds like a fake answer, but it's the truth. I have absolutely zero expectations now when it comes to this company when it comes to doing the right thing, so honestly, he's not pushed because it's the WWE. Behind the scenes is a complete mess and is the worst in company history. This is just 1 of a trillion examples. I place zero blame on Sandow himself of course, because the guy has all the makings of a Ted Dibiase type character, but nah.....that takes way too much effort. And the WWE HATES EFFORT.
 
#8 ·
Sandow certainly won't be obtaining any Sandows in the IFBB world anytime soon (well no one on the roster will but you get my point). Factor in today's audience is less receptive to old school psychology and pops for athletic high spot sequences and false finishes when Sandow isn't very athletic and that is probably your answer combined with getting the dreaded pigeonhole slot that many guys get when they are too good at either making others look good or especially comedy slots.

I'd say too Sandow is also shaded alot by factors he cannot control. His skillset of talking and having easy chemistry with anyone on segments combined with the Intellectual Savior gimmick in the AE's climate would have made him an occasional main event contrast player imo. Today? not applicable. Also, there are alot of guys right now that are on the come-up that some guys by default get the backseat. Sandow is one of those guys.
 
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#9 ·
Because Sandow just isn't that good. He's a funny/goofy dude, but he's not fit to be a main eventer or even a serious midcarder. His best work is as a comedic loser

And I would argue Miz got Sandow over more than Sandow got himself over. That promo Sandow had after breaking off from Miz was meh.

Miz said it best just like Alex Riley the majority of fans wouldn't care about Sandow once he broke off.
 
#12 ·
This guy happened to get some of the biggest pops every week for 8 consecutive months. The logical thing to do would have been to at the very least have him beat the Miz and then give him a decent midcard push. Ideally he would have gotten a main event push, because that's what he truly deserves. But a midcard push would have sufficed.
He didn't even get a chance in the midcard so I don't see how anybody could say he should have a chance as a main eventer. I'm not saying he's not talented and couldn't get there but that's quite a stretch.
 
#13 ·
I liked him for his promo work and he was decent in ring. He did get over, but WWE saw him only as a comedy jobber, so he went from Mizdow to Macho Mandow. Every kingdom needs a court jester, and I fear that is how Vince sees him. He and R-Truth may as well team together , as they are both very low on the totem pole in WWE.
 
#17 ·
Why don't they ever mention that he was a Money on the Bank winner ? Whenever they try to make Money in the Bank briefcase important, they JBL says "There's only one time in history that the winnder of MITB didn't won the title and that's John Cena"
 
#41 ·
Cena was the first to cash in and lose, well not lose, but didn't win the match. That was before the Sandow/Cena match took place. Also too, Sandow was good for what his role was, but as far as main eventing PPV's, and being in big programs, I don't see it in him. He was jobbing even when he was mid-carding.
 
#18 ·
Well the Miz thing revived his career. He said that we kept him from getting fired. But his 2015 post Wrestlemania has been basically non-existent.

Reminds of when Cesaro won Andre Royal, then was given no feud or push after. But Big Show wins it, then is heavily pushed, all the way to IC contention (cause stupid WWE doesn't have a heavy weight belt)


So WWE only helps those who help themselves. Which is dumb and hurts both those who have it, and don't, cause some guys can't do it on their own and those who do get help suffer cause it makes them weak (sometimes), but that doesn't make them any less of a man.

Guys like Roman, you can push all you want it won't happen until he helps himself. But guys like Bo Dallas and Damien, you help them, and not just leave them off on the side with no booking to rot in limbo, if given sufficient pushes and work, they could rise.

I think Adam Rose, Bo Dallas, Fandango, and Los Matadores are jobbers who deserve to be given good booking. But how will they, great people like Lucha Dragons and Cesaro are under worked and under-utilized, even though they are my 2 favorites.
 
#20 ·
The comparisons with Daniel Bryan aren't valid. Sandow debuted with a New Generation gimmick, Bryan was always booked as legit:

Bryan run before YES-Mania:

* Debuted facing Chris Jericho, world heavyweight champion at the moment, in a competitive match.
* The only one with a storyline during his NXT days.
* WWE let him cut a "shoot" promo when he was eliminated from NXT.
* Debuted on main roster as part of Nexus and was "fired".
* Returned on the SummeSlam 10 main event and he submitted 3 Nexus members.
* 2 months after he won the USA championship in his first title match in a PPV.
* Had a good showing in the Royal Rumble 11 match, only eliminated because the numerical advantage of the New Nexus.
* Won the MitB briefcase in match that included Sheamus, Wade Barret and the back then rising star Sin Cara.
* Cashed it successfully on the Big Show, then he retained in a cage match against Big Show and Mark Henry.
* Won the first Elimination Chamber match he participaded to retain his championship.

All that before the "18 seconds debacle".

On the contrary Sandow was nothing but a bufoon which the the returning DX could applied it's finishers to made the crowd had a nostalgic moment. That was his place on the card.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Sandow also won the MITB, had a good match with Cena and is a former tag team champion. He was actually a solid midcarder. Ok Bryan was booked more strongly at the start, but people make Sandow out to be a career comedy act like Santino, when he wasn't. He was a legit midcarder who has/had potential to be a main eventer.

If Bryan was meant to be booked seriously, he wouldn't have done the comedy stuff with Kane. Fact of the matter is both superstars were midcarders and they got over by doing comedy.
 
#23 ·
I hate to be pessimistic here, but what Damien Sandow's reactions came solely from The Miz bullying him on live television. As we all know, it's fun to engage in the show by chanting or cheering for the babyfaces/heels. In the case of Sandow, when The Miz stopped bullying him, we had no reason to care about him anymore.
 
#25 ·
I think it was the comedic gimmicks given to him after he had success as The Intellectual Savior, comedy got him over with the fans and it can also lead to his downfall similar to Axel.
 
#26 ·
Because unfortunately he can turn chicken shit into chicken salad, so when Vince and creative have a really bad idea and they want badly to see it live they call him.
 
#27 ·
Seems similar to what happened to Zach Ryder tbh.


Although I think Ryder was more over
 
#40 ·
1 ~ He's too talented and they hate talent.

2 ~ He's got no balls.
It's strange, but I am pretty sure that's part of the problem too. After a few years on the independent circuit, he signed a new developmental deal with WWE and joined FCW in 2010. He seems like a such polite guy to me and it looks like he's just doing what they told him. Even if it's the STUPIDEST things ever he can make it work - such a testament to his talent.
 
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