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The over criticism of Paige is pathetic

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#1 · (Edited)
Since Paige has become the most popular diva the over criticism of Paige has hit an all time high. Every thing she does is criticized and crapped on similar to when AJ had that spot. If she has a very good match the critics are no where to be found or an excuse is made. So whats the deal? Lets take a look at Paiges year on the main roster and her previous years in NXT.
When Paige was signed to FCW she became an instanthit. Fans were drawn to her from day one. As she had time to hone her craft she became the MOST popular diva in NXT. After her popularity reached an all time high (before the show was even placed on the network) the company decided it would be good business to have her debut and win the championship on her first day. To thunderous applause (biggest diva pop since the Lita days) we had a new divas champion. Next AJ left and Paige was forced a smiling babyface role which she wanted no part of. Insert criticism commencing. After having pointless 1 on 1 matches with diva after diva with no buildup it was clear Paige needed a character change and someone established to help make her new character develop. Insert AJ and commence Paige heel turn. During this time Paige slowly started to build a character that was more sexualized and heelish. Her reactions started to get better and it was clear her star status was rising. Once the feud ended Paige was placed on the back seat so Nikki could start her reign for the title and defeat AJ in the process. During this time the fans started clamoring for Paige again with "we want Paige chants" during different segments. After a month off raw Paige was redebuted so to speak as a face during the Christmas special. During this divas cluster%%%% of a match it was clear that Paige was somebody majority of the casuals wanted. The cheers for Paige were lively and miles ahead of anyone in that match.
The charisma that Paige has garnered is something that will do more good for her in the long run than bad. Its fairly safe to say that NO diva right now is more polarizing. You either LOVE Paige or you HATE her but you are always talking about her.
Today she is the diva on the main roster getting the most cheers and pops consistently on shows.
Now lets look at the over criticism of Paige the past few months. Lets start with the lap dance video. When that video was leaked it was clear that Paige was put in that position and had no control over it but it didn't stop the usual suspects from crapping all over her and going as far as saying she would be fired from it. Next Paige makes her return to raw to a big pop and a week later we get everybody complaining that shes getting too much spotlight. Now insert her having a couple of matches on her return which I will admit were not her best, but still it was clear that she was rusty from a month off filming and her opponents especially Tamina were not perfect in anyway but still the blame was pushed on Paige. Since the triple threat Paige has had very good matches with Fox, Nikki Layla and Brie. In fact she hasn't had a bad match since the ppv and yet people are still clamoring to the triple threat to critique Paige but ignoring everything after it. Now tough enough Paige is being crapped on for doing her job and being a critic on a show where it is her job to critique. Ironically the show is supposed to be about the competitors and all I see is people talking about Paiges judging.
Is the over criticism and hatred due to some just really hating Paige or is it because Paige marks are so high on her that it brings out even more hate? If the second reason is the case then maybe Paige marks including myself should tone it down a bit but I think a happy medium should be made. Nobody has to call Paige the messiah of the divas division but at the same time nobody should be calling her the apocalypse of it either.
 
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Is the over criticism and hatred due to some just really hating Paige or is it because Paige marks are so high on her that it brings out even more hate? If the second reason is the case then maybe Paige marks including myself should tone it down.
Bingo! There's your answer. You try to force down everyone's throats that Paige is the greatest thing to happen to the Divas division when she's painfully average. The only reason she stands out is because she's pale and British, and people are attracted to her alternative look. She's not terrible, but she's not great either. I don't care how long she's wrestled, it doesn't show because she autopilots through her very basic moveset. The irony of it all is some Paige marks want to say the Bellas have no ring psychology when Paige shows the least amount out of everyone. Headbutts>Knee Strikes>Elbow Strikes> Submission>Repeat. That's a quick summary of every Paige match ever. She doesn't target a body part, she doesn't tell a story, she just does her moves in sequential order. If you didn't run around saying she's the greatest wrestler, then she wouldn't be criticized so much.
 
#20 ·
Bingo! There's your answer. You try to force down everyone's throats that Paige is the greatest thing to happen to the Divas division when she's painfully average. The only reason she stands out is because she's pale and British, and people are attracted to her alternative look. She's not terrible, but she's not great either. I don't care how long she's wrestled, it doesn't show because she autopilots through her very basic moveset. The irony of it all is some Paige marks want to say the Bellas have no ring psychology when Paige shows the least amount out of everyone. Headbutts>Knee Strikes>Elbow Strikes> Submission>Repeat. That's a quick summary of every Paige match ever. She doesn't target a body part, she doesn't tell a story, she just does her moves in sequential order. If you didn't run around saying she's the greatest wrestler, then she wouldn't be criticized so much.
I was gonna make a post, but this is so spot on:clap
Did you drop your keyboard, turned around and walked away after this?
 
#11 · (Edited)
Believer, if you've seen me post then you'll know that I make Paul Heyman sound like Joey Mercury but the OP's post was a wall of text and walls of text are unforgiveable. Here, I'll break up and format his post to show what a little bit of consideration for the reader can do:

Since Paige has become the most popular diva the over criticism of Paige has hit an all time high. Every thing she does is criticized and crapped on similar to when AJ had that spot. If she has a very good match the critics are no where to be found or an excuse is made. So whats the deal? Lets take a look at Paiges year on the main roster and her previous years in NXT.

When Paige was signed to FCW she became an instanthit. Fans were drawn to her from day one. As she had time to hone her craft she became the MOST popular diva in NXT. After her popularity reached an all time high (before the show was even placed on the network) the company decided it would be good business to have her debut and win the championship on her first day. To thunderous applause (biggest diva pop since the Lita days) we had a new divas champion. Next AJ left and Paige was forced a smiling babyface role which she wanted no part of.

Insert criticism commencing.

After having pointless 1 on 1 matches with diva after diva with no buildup it was clear Paige needed a character change and someone established to help make her new character develop. Insert AJ and commence Paige heel turn. During this time Paige slowly started to build a character that was more sexualized and heelish. Her reactions started to get better and it was clear her star status was rising. Once the feud ended Paige was placed on the back seat so Nikki could start her reign for the title and defeat AJ in the process. During this time the fans started clamoring for Paige again with "we want Paige chants" during different segments.

After a month off raw Paige was redebuted so to speak as a face during the Christmas special. During this divas cluster%%%% of a match it was clear that Paige was somebody majority of the casuals wanted. The cheers for Paige were lively and miles ahead of anyone in that match. The charisma that Paige has garnered is something that will do more good for her in the long run than bad. Its fairly safe to say that NO diva right now is more polarizing. You either LOVE Paige or you HATE her but you are always talking about her. Today she is the diva on the main roster getting the most cheers and pops consistently on shows.

Now lets look at the over criticism of Paige the past few months:

-Lets start with the lap dance video. When that video was leaked it was clear that Paige was put in that position and had no control over it but it didn't stop the usual suspects from crapping all over her and going as far as saying she would be fired from it.

-Next Paige makes her return to raw to a big pop and a week later we get everybody complaining that shes getting too much spotlight.

-Now insert her having a couple of matches on her return which I will admit were not her best, but still it was clear that she was rusty from a month off filming and her opponents especially Tamina were not perfect in anyway but still the blame was pushed on Paige. Since the triple threat Paige has had very good matches with Fox, Nikki Layla and Brie. In fact she hasn't had a bad match since the ppv and yet people are still clamoring to the triple threat to critique Paige but ignoring everything after it.

-Now tough enough Paige is being crapped on for doing her job and being a critic on a show where it is her job to critique. Ironically the show is supposed to be about the competitors and all I see is people talking about Paiges judging.

Is the over criticism and hatred due to some just really hating Paige or is it because Paige marks are so high on her that it brings out even more hate? If the second reason is the case then maybe Paige marks including myself should tone it down a bit but I think a happy medium should be made. Nobody has to call Paige the messiah of the divas division but at the same time nobody should be calling her the apocalypse of it either.
It's still a big read but you cannot blame anyone for seeing a giant block of text with no formatting whatsoever and thinking "to hell with that".
 
#15 ·
Idek if this is a valid excuse anymore. Not saying the Divas don't deserve better, because they do. But after years of working in this condition they need to find away to turn their chicken shit into chicken salad. A few of them need to just figure out how to maximize their time in 2-8 minutes with little build. Its not optimal but they need to do better with what scraps they get.
 
#10 ·
I think the over criticism of most is over blown. But with Paige I think its due to hype backlash. Which is no fault of her own.

Her fans when she was in NXT did a great job of promoting her as this anti-diva who not only could, but would bring something new and enjoyable to the Divas division and for most she just hasn't lived up to the hype.

And what makes it worse for her is its not like she hasn't been pushed. She's been in the top of the Diva's division since she debuted so its not like shes being misused she just hasn't been delivering for some.

I mean imo she hasn't had a good feud and only has a handful of good matches. I mean whether she's facing AJ, Nikki, Natalya, Tamina, Naomi, Alicia Foxx (despite the good match this week) she more often than not delivers a dud.

When you have a talent many don't find entertaining and combine them with a seemingly onstant push its easy for them to get overly critiqued look at Cena or 2000s HHH.
 
#5 ·
Cliff notes. Every time Paige has a good match or promo its ignored by the usual critics. If she has a bad day its harped on for days. Paige has become the new AJ Lee of the forum.
 
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#22 ·
You and most of her other fans over-hype her as fuck --- and then get backlash for it .. and then get butthurt over it ... And post shit like "haters gon' gate" blah blah blah. Rinse repeat.

Paige is average as fuck and when people say "she's the greatest of all time", "she will be the greatest of all time" ... of course there's going to be disagreement. Deal with it.
 
#4 ·
It has nothing to do with her being "popular." She's been shit since her debut. The girl can't even make half of her offense look good. She may have fit in for a bit feuding with equally untalented April Brooks, but pitting her against the cream of the crop in The Bella Twins has really exposed her many weaknesses to the world.
 
#30 ·
While I do agree with your points at the same time I think given the hate she's been getting it would just be better for Paige marks to maybe just take a back seat and continue to enjoy her even if others can't. As a huge Paige fan when I see irrational hate I often want to respond but then I realize it's never gonnna change their mind and also when you don't like something for whatever reason it sucks to have someone lecture you on why you should like it.
It especially sucks when you actually like multiple divas because it tends to be a 1 vs other, for instance while I am a bigger Paige fan I do also really like Nikki so it sucks when I see people feel it is necessary to drag one down to make the other look better and vice versa.
As cheesy as it is, can't we all simply like who were gonna like, you can like others less even dislike but not feel the need to spew irrational hate and be plain old mean.
 
#49 ·
I missed this post but I completely agree. People keep saying it's Paige marks calling her the best of all time that's causing the hate. I haven't seen that in months. What I have been seeing is the same people crapping on everything she does. It's like that it bothers some people that Paige is this popular. Shouldn't we be happy that a diva minus the bellas finally is over.
 
#65 ·
Anyway, In regards to the defense of how people need to dial their Paige praise back If they want the Paige hate dialed back.....Bullshit and here's why:

I don't and haven't in months seen a bunch of threads made to gush about Paige since I've been here but I've mostly seen Paige fans keep to themselves and have fun talking about Paige by praising her matches and promos when she delivers or have fun talking and posting pics of her in the mega thread dedicated to her yet despite that when she has a less than flattering moment of any kind, the anti-Paige brigade come out to crap on her any chance they get and now it's gone beyond that and people are ripping on her as a person solely based on her posting of sexy pics (promoting her brand) or because of the roles she plays in Total Scripted and Tough Enough like they are in any position to cast judgements like that on someone they don't really know especially with no proof via Dirtsheet rumors or other wrestlers that Paige is a "slut" or whatever

Now do people sometimes do that to the Bellas on some level? yes but it's not quite making hate threads after hate threads about how The Bellas allegedly fucked their ways to the top via their spouses or John Laurinitis or how they politicked to stop former WWE diva returns like Maria Kanellis from happening ...though it still happens from time to time
 
#83 ·
Because people have standards and Paige hasn't lived up to her expectations. When she starts putting on classics like Sasha Banks and Charlotte have in NXT, and when she stops looking bored shitless in the ring, people will stop criticizing her.
You're comparing WWE's Diva division to NXT's women division? How is Paige supposed to even remotely meet those standards? How could any Diva?
 
#96 ·
I don't like this concept that we were all buying into the Paige hype and have now turned against her because she's popular or that turning against a popular wrestler is the in thing to do.

Truth is, I have been giving Paige a chance since FCW to really wow me, to really live up to the hype and she hasn't. She underwhelmed me in FCW, NXT, and now the main roster. Even her infamous matches with Emma were meh. I was lenient because women's wrestling hasn't been the greatest in the past years, but then I got into NXT and saw what women are truly capable of.

I'm capable of changing my mind and being proven wrong. I'm not all pride. I used to hate the Bellas with a fury -- I mean, really hated them, but now I'm okay with them because they're trying. When I first saw Charlotte and Sasha I thought they were nothing special, but then they won me over. I'm pretty objective when it comes to the women, but if I had to choose a favorite it'd be Charlotte, yet if someone argues Sasha is better I completely understand. I can objectively see she's the whole package and recognize some flaws in my own fav. If Paige becomes awesome someday, I will recognize this, but she's just been extremely mediocre. People criticize her because there's nothing outside of her look to really boast about.
 
#145 ·
People are allowed different opinions.

How is the dislike for Paige any different or worse than those who hate the Bellas just because they didn't go through the indys.

The thing with Paige to me is I was promised the greatest Diva ever. Her fans rate her as the greatest wrestler of all time, a mic god, that is more over than Rock, Austin and Hogan combined. What i got instead was an average looking pale chick with stripper stockings who spams kicks and knees endlessly and is mediocre on the mic. Her fans still tout her as the Goddess of wrestling though.

Her uber push doesn't help either, she's HHH's pet project in the Divas division. She won the Title on debut, and had an awful initial run. Improved and grew from there and has been featured over every other Diva. Nikkis the Champ but Paige is the one winning and being made to look like the Champ, and the only other way another Diva gets pushed over HHH's girl is when she's off the road filming a movie, but when thats down its right back to the spotlight while the other Divas get shoved back into the shadows.
 
#169 · (Edited)
The thing with Paige to me is I was promised the greatest Diva ever. Her fans rate her as the greatest wrestler of all time, a mic god, that is more over than Rock, Austin and Hogan combined. What i got instead was an average looking pale chick with stripper stockings who spams kicks and knees endlessly and is mediocre on the mic. Her fans still tout her as the Goddess of wrestling though.
Don't worry the real divas goat is coming soon:eva2

Just kidding it's really Sasha Banks who's every bit as good as people say she is.
 
#150 ·
Diva's marks huh. There is no way you can judge someone fairly in this shithole division, they would make Sara Del Rey looks like shit in 1 minute during her debut.
 
#172 ·
I've said it before and I'll say it again; on the main roster Paige has flopped. Her only good matches are when she is working Alicia Fox and Nikki Bella in single matches and funny enough it is usually either Fox or Bella calling and controlling the matches! She constantly rushes spots and calls spots out way to loud.

I like her but I feel like she is overexposed; especially when she is so young and could have over a ten year career in the WWE; I don't want her to already be a 3x Diva's Champion in her like what? Second year on the main roster.
 
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