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New Stable, The Last Horsemen...

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#1 ·
I hate bringing back old stable names. Take for example The Four Horsemen. I chose The Last Horsemen because I feel like it still makes a strong enough reference to what we already know. Who would lead this group? It would start with Flair. Flair starts going on about passing down his big gold title and the title of "The Nature Boy". Once he has found the "Chosen One" to have those two things it is revealed. Who is it?

"The Nature Boy" Cody Rhodes

Ric Flair is proud to announce that after Dusty's passing he realized something. His son Cody has potential to be something his father knew he would one day become. A WWE Legend and carving his own path. Flair finally gets the audience to realize that Cody Rhodes is going to the top of the mountain. Flair talks about how much pull he has and that he'll make certain that Cody gets what he wants. Ric Flair says that this is why he left it up to Cody to surround himself with some help.

The Last Horsemen

Ric Flair - J.J Dillon role

Cody Rhodes - Leader

Jack Swagger - Cody's right hand man. Lisp away!

Damien Sandow - The return of the Intellectual Savior

Ryback - New look, and paired with Sandow as "Brilliance and The Beast" type tag team. Sandow constantly mocking how dumb Ryback is. Odd Couple tag team.
 
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#2 · (Edited)
I'd kinda dig this, especially if this is the last wrestling-related thing Flair does.

I'd go with Ziggler as the centerpiece (Flair), Cody as the secondary centerpiece (Tully), maybe Cesaro as the muscle (Arn) and Swagger as his tag partner (Ole). And obviously Flair is on the JJ Dillon managerial role.

If we can't get Cesaro, Sandow works too. However, this stable would have to come together after or near The Authority's end to truly flourish in my opinion. Might be kinda neat to have an alliance with The Four Horsewomen stable from NXT (led by Charlotte) if they're around. And let's not call them anything referring to The Four Horsemen.
 
#4 ·
I do not hate the idea, but I would change a few guys.

Ric Flair as the manager is really the only play.

I like your selection of Cody Rhodesto be the face of the stable.

Swagger isn't the worst choice, but he doesn't really excite me. I'm thinking Cesaro. Unless he gets a singles push, I don't see what else he would be doing.

Sandow isn't a bad choice, but I don't like the Ryback choice personally. Why not just do Sandow and Curtis Axel? Just have them drop the Metapowers gimmick.
 
#5 ·
I've been playing around with an idea like this for a while now, and we pretty much have the same picks.

I'd go with:

Ziggler
Rhodes
Cesaro and/or Barrett
Sandow
with Flair as a manager.

The 4 or 5 of them are all floundering due to booking and I think they balance each other out talent wise (Cesaro's in-ring paired with Sandow's mic work, etc.)

They also all have good chemistry - based on previous work on Raw or on youtube with things like the JBL & Cole show, etc.
 
#6 ·
They'd be an instant fail as they would be compared to the originals.
Think of all the great rehashes we've gotten:
The New Rockers
The New Blackjacks
The New Midnight Express
The New Foundation

Change the name. They had the right idea with Evolution. They were basically a New Horsemen but with a different name. I like the idea of given some of the directionless talent a push.
 
#7 ·
I hate this idea. Absolutely hate it.

First of all, if WWE did this, it would be a pale imitation of the actual Four Horsemen. They wouldn't come close to even 2% of the original horsemen's greatness, so what's the point. Second, how embarrassing would it be for the WWE to yet again show they can't come up with anything new or creative and have to resort to nostalgia to try and get younger talent over?
 
#10 ·
The whole reason for choosing Cody Rhodes is obvious to me. His father has a long standing history with Flair and The 4 Horsemen. Cody Rhodes does a surprisingly awesome job at telling a story. Look at what he did with the IC title. Flair makes sense as the manager because of his appeal. To those that say these four men are hacks. You're just simply wrong. Booked correctly any of them would get over.

Cody Rhodes

The Nature Boy Cody Rhodes. He carried the Intercontinental title and made it matter. Rhodes may not be ready to come back just yet, but I think his father's death will help get him to a point with the fans that could put him over the top. Once you have the fans then you can make the dramatic heel turn where Cody tells his story all over again. If there is one thing man can do, it's tell a story on the mic in "kayfabe", probably better than anyone else on the roster not named Heyman. To say he is washed up makes zero sense.

Damien Sandow

All they have to do with this man is bring back the Intellectual Savior. If that character comes back, he is over, plain, and simple. This adds yet another strong mic worker to this group. You don't have to come up with something "fresh" for Damien, he already had something that worked. Bring this character, The Intellectual Savior back and you have a top notch mid card heel again. Sandow was at one point the most over heel on the roster and then all of that suddenly went away. Fans still like him and I think his past history with Rhodes proves that he should be in The Last Horsemen.

Jack Swagger

I don't like him either, but that's only when he starts talking. He needs to completely change his look and I mean completely. Swagger should almost be unrecognizable at first glance and that's even by his most loved fans. When Cody wants an ankle snapped, or a wrist broken he calls to Jack Swagger. Swagger should be built as a tough guy who fixes problems. His new image should be backed by the few words he would speak. The All American American is dead, it's just Jack Swagger now aka "The Hired Gun". He would be a devoted man to Cody and that should be stressed. He would do anything for Cody.

"The Ryback"

He is in the same boat as Swagger. I think he needs a whole knew look and theme as well. Nothing about him should be what it was. His first words to the fans should literally be "Don't feed me anymore of your false support". The Ryback should be the muscle of the group. His look should resemble more of Goldberg and if that's a problem, oh well. Ryback shits on Goldberg in every way. He is booked like an action figure and has no real purpose. Being built all over again, but this time as "The Ryback". The Ryback in my opinion is much more intimidating. Give him more of a "Loose Cannon" role. Does he not look like he is all coked up? Remember Pillman?
 
#11 ·
Afraid I hate it too, probably for the very reasons you allude to at the start when you say how usually you hate rehash stables. The worst part of all is "The Nature Boy" Cody Rhodes for a number of reasons but primarily..well secondarily, he's been on WWE television for what-7 years now? Aside from the failed Buddy Landel, you've got Buddy Rogers and Ric Flair who are both legends in the history of wrestling - you'd crown a new Nature Boy who's been featured on weekly TV for the best part of a decade and has gone through as many character changes as he has?

Can you think of any examples of rehashed stables that have ever been a hit?

Maybe I'm missing one (and I'm talking rehashed within the some company, not like taking the nWo idea from Japan) but I can't think of a single example. Ideas don't have to be new but identity does; if you're going to draw from the past then it's best to just use the template but make it feel brand new (that's *if* the template fits the present moment/current situation).
 
#15 ·
So you only liked the original 4 Horsemen? Because that stable was changed so many times through two decades. Not of all of them were great, but they were still a hit. Besides I already changed the name, The Last Horsemen isn't The 4 Horsemen. You can't argue that this is a rehash, nor can anyone else.

Cody Rhodes is just hitting his peak. Do you even know how long it takes to establish a name in this business? You act as if 7 years is a long time. You must be one of those fans who thinks that a star has to be over right away. "Getting over" can happen in one night if the booking is right, but it's keeping consistent that is hard. Rhodes and Flair had a history. Ric passing the name on makes total sense. The Nature Boy is meant to be passed on. Cody Rhodes is the perfect choice.
 
#14 ·
For me you've GOT to put Dolph Ziggler and Cody Rhodes in there with Ric Flair as manager/mentor as he was to Triple H in 2002, it's who you put into the other two spots that's the question. I try to visualise it as they all have to LOOK the part and be suited and booted when not wrestling so I'd say Wade Barrett and probably Cesaro, I think Cesaro could be a throwback to Arn Anderson with his look and no nonsense style and his strength screams enforcer.

It's who works what role as with The Four Horsemen you knew in the original that Ric Flair was the main event star, Tully Blanchard the mid card star that was believable still main eventing whilst Arn and Ole were the tag team but were believable as a singles wrestler. Second time round you knew Ric Flair was still the main man whilst Barry Windham was the mid card star that could work main event and Arn and Tully were the best tag team around.

With today's wrestlers no one outside of John Cena, Randy Orton and Roman Reigns and part timers in Rock, Brock Lesnar, Undertaker, Sting and Triple H are any higher or more believable that anyone else. All of Barrett, Ziggler, Rhodes and Cesaro are just as believable beating Randy Orton as they are losing to R-Truth so it'd be hard to make the stable work as none of them are dominant like The Four Horsemen were back in the day.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Pretty terrible idea IMHO. Rehashing the four horsemen is soooo tired. Do you remember fourtune? Also, you want ric flair in a managers role? Have you heard that man ramble on lately? Also, I think it would be a tad bit weird/ distasteful if Cody Rhodes took the Nature Boy gimmick right after his dad died, although I think he could pull it off.

I like the stable members though, maybe if you put them together in a different way.
 
#21 ·
The Horsemen (mid 80s version) worked because they were extremely well protected, had the number one guy in the business as their leader, most of the time at least 2 members-- sometimes 3 held major titles for long stretches, and they feuded strictly in the main event with acts like Dusty, The Road Warriors, etc. When you think about it, that sounds alike like The Shield and that stable was over. But a stable with guys like Sandow, Ziggler, Cody, etc would never get that kind of protection, push, or exposure. Therefore, it would fail. Nice thought though.
 
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