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Rollins and Ambrose just don't have the star power!

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To be feuding for the WWE world title. Ambrose isn't anybody big and I understand Vince is just filling in a throw away program so the Ambrose marks will be happy. But once Ambrose loses to Rollins then Ambrose again will be an afterthought.

Mean while Rollins does well at story telling better then anyone, but he needs to feud against a BIG name Orton/Lesnar/Cena or seeing him champion looks silly and makes the title weak. Rolling is a little guy and trying to make a name for himself, but he is boring.

I could dig a IC title feud between them but this is the WWE Championship we are talking about.

Thoughts?
 
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Thoughts? Time to make new stars and giving dull, truly stale acts like Cena and Orton is a much worse option.
Pretty much this. You can't expect people to become stars unless you give them the opportunity to shine.
 
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Re: Rollins and Ambrose just doesn't have the star power!

I know everybody hates Orton and Cena because they are the main reasons the show is still running, but at least I could watch them. Ambrose vs Rollins is one of the worst feuds ever displayed on RAW, in a main event. Rollins is just not interesting and Ambrose has his moments but overall just doesn't have star quality. As I've said before they look like mid-carders who were shoved into the main event, due to "hardcore fans" whining about guys with the look.

Now the ratings are slipping, the show sucks and uh... add whatever you need to that. It shows that the "hardcore fans" are among the minority and not the majority. Hopefully, WWE goes back to normal after this EC crapfest. They could really use The Viper/Apex Predator/Legend Killer that hears voices in his head and... something about his "veins..."

Ok.
 
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Re: Rollins and Ambrose just doesn't have the star power!

Tbf it doesn't matter who you put in the main event because wrestling is fucked regardless.
The entire roster is irrelevant to mainstream media and the public eye.

Yeah you could say Cena is relevant outside wrestling circles, but I would argue that he has already shot his load and it didn't stick, TWICE(By getting media attention from wrestling the rock).

Rollins, Ambrose, who gives a fuck, WRESTLING IS DEAD.

The only one with slight relevancy is Brock, but he continues to decline since he signed his last deal with "that fuckin fake wrestling shit".

But I do hope wrestling continues to die a slow death, as I love reading people bitching about it.
 
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Tbf it doesn't matter who you put in the main event because wrestling is fucked regardless.
The entire roster is irrelevant to mainstream media and the public eye.

Yeah you could say Cena is relevant outside wrestling circles, but I would argue that he has already shot his load and it didn't stick, TWICE(By getting media attention from wrestling the rock).

Rollins, Ambrose, who gives a fuck, WRESTLING IS DEAD.

The only one with slight relevancy is Brock, but he continues to decline since he signed his last deal with "that fuckin fake wrestling shit".

But I do hope wrestling continues to die a slow death, as I love reading people bitching about it.
Says the person on wrestling forum, bitching about wrestling, and who loves reading about people bitching about it.

Wrestling isn't dead. It's changing and will continue to do so. One thing the WWE have been pretty cute with, is evolving when they needed to. I thought it was done in 94, never will wrestling go back to those golden days of the 80's .... And I missed the biggest boom period (although girls, teenage life, alcohol & the birth of the UFC played a big part in my absence too)

Things moves in cycles. I'm not suggesting in anyway the 80's or attitude era will be matched, or that we're about to enter another boom period. It's a different world. PPV is dying, social media & internet networking has grown. WWE are (and have been for some time) developing a whole new generation of fans. Pro wrestling will always have a market, even if it's a niche one.

Recently I'm struggling. Might be age, might be the poor product but probably a bit of both. I skip 75% of RAW yet Mania or the "big 4" is a must watch.

I don't buy in to this wrestling is f****d regardless, everything is f****d mentality. A million network subscribers (plus any other person pirating it) would probably agree. No offense meant, just my opinion. Sounds like you need a good hard session with Bo Dallas

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why even bitch about no new stars being given a chance if you are just going to shit on them when they are (
 
#19 ·
Re: Rollins and Ambrose just doesn't have the star power!

Meh this is a similar storyline Rollins = Randy Orton 2013/2014 and Ambrose = Stone Cold hybrid 1998/1999 and Daniel Bryan 2013/2014



50 bucks says Ambrose feuds with HHH after he loses or doesn't win via pin fall or submission at the Elimination Chamber
 
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Yeah, screw Dean and Seth, let's have 5 more years of Cen vs Orton. That will surely pick the product right up and thrill the fans with the incredible freshness of that match up. Seth vs Dean any day of the week over more of those tired old match ups.
 
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Yeah, screw Dean and Seth, let's have 5 more years of Cen vs Orton. That will surely pick the product right up and thrill the fans with the incredible freshness of that match up. Seth vs Dean any day of the week over more of those tired old match ups.
No-one asked for Cena vs Orton. Rollins and Ambrose, not implying that they suck, but they lack STAR power. Last time Rollins was watchable was when Orton returned. The feud went on for too long and the authority cheated too long. Orton was basically a filler, to keep Rollins interesting--once I realized that Orton never stood a chance the feud sucked. If Rollins would've beat him, once, convincingly, we're singing a different tune. In order, to sell an event and make the product watchable, stars must shine and stars must be created. Ambrose cannot create Rollins and vice-versa because they are not stars yet. John Cena is creating a star in Kevin Owens, I wouldn't be half as excited about Owens if he came out and dropped Ambrose or Rollins in his finisher. In a year, ya'll will be blaming bad booking for Rollins and Ambrose's failure as usual. When the truth is WWE overestimated their starpower, like they did CM Punk, when they should've let that leech go the first time.

The problem with Rollins and Ambrose is that Triple H, Stephanie and even Kane are too involved in their feud. WWE thinks Triple H's and Stephanie's star power (not really as high as she thinks) will rub off on them. Instead they need to let Rollins and Ambrose go on their own and become stars.
This is true too. Then again, Rollins was absolutely terrible and unbearable when Triple H and Steph disappeared for awhile. We know the TV execs are requesting their appearance. Rollins and Ambrose can't sell a PPV without them, they can barely sell it with them. Steph and Trip sure ain't no Vince and the corporation and Ambrose sure ain't Austin. Austin was a star, Ambrose is a wannabe, who should be in the midcard.

Both Rollins and Ambrose have barely wrestled one year as singles wrestlers. They are talented and they will be stars in the future.
As much as I hope so, for Rollins anyway, I just don't see it.

Some folks don't realize how much stock WWE has put into Orton and Cena over the years and how many bodies it took to get them where they are today to become the draws that they are.
However, every investment does not always work. Rollins and Ambrose will never draw like Orton and Cena did in their prime, because they don't have the look. The look makes up about 2/3 of starpower. Talent is about 1/3. The Rock, despite his poor acting, makes box-office hits because he looks like an action star. Kids love Cena because he looks like a hero. Ambrose and Rollins look like midcarders. That's why they lack starpower.

I think they did a great job building Rollins up and imo he,s more credible as wwe champ then the likes of miz,sheamus,del rio or even guys like orton,batista and cena when they won there first title. 5 years from now Rollins will be a megastar but it takes time establishing yourself.

Ambrose I agree with theyve done a horrible job with him.
I disagree with the part about Orton, Batista and Cena. I do agree with the rest of it. Rollins' credibility is not the issue, he's just... boring. He's a robot, who adds nothing extra to his gimmick, it's just the same generic heel crap. I think that's what McMahon was referring to when he said something about brass rings. Nobody these days is reaching for 'em.

:bryanlol He's probably more ripped than Orton currently is.

Also, OP:



Consider it, please.
You're delusional. Look at Orton's, legs, abs and arms. Ambrose ain't even in his backyard. Orton's got thick, toned muscles. His thigh muscles are bigger than Ambrose's arm. Ambrose is just water retention -- sign of 'roid usage, friend.

Thing is WWE hasnt built any stars. They have an old, boring and done roster. In doing so they have pinned their hopes on the Shield but none of them are good enough. Now the WWE are in the situation where they are starless. There are no draws, just mediocrity.
I agree with this. I do believe Reigns can take the WWE places, one day. He has everything that Rollins and Ambrose lack.

Oh shut up don't you have anything better to do with your life
Hypocrisy at its finest.
 
#21 ·
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The problem with Rollins and Ambrose is that Triple H, Stephanie and even Kane are too involved in their feud. WWE thinks Triple H's and Stephanie's star power (not really as high as she thinks) will rub off on them. Instead they need to let Rollins and Ambrose go on their own and become stars.
 
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Hey bro, let the rats have fun while the lions are resting. Orton & Cena will eventually win the WWE title again. (not a Cena fan at ALL).

But, Rollins = Reigns > Ambrose. That's a FACT.
 
#29 ·
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How so? I think they are pretty much equal though i like Ambrose the most
Sorry, but Ambrose lacks muscles. He's just a normal guy. He will never be the face of the WWE because of that reason.
 
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