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Stupid IWC Myths Vol 6: The Reality of NXT

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#1 ·
For the love of god, stop making NXT > RAW threads, or HHH is our savior threads, you're embarrassing yourselves and showing precisely what little self-respect smarks have these days. You sheep to the next in thing on the internet and miss the big picture.

The reality of NXT is, it exists as a way for Vince/HHH to sign indie wrestlers. It keeps them away from ever competing against them in an upstart fed. You know what else it does? It gets all of you anti-WWE internet fans who just watch the product to complain about it, to watch them. That small % of smarks that will never buy WWE PPVs or merch, are now watching WWE programming. Maybe even on the actual WWE Network, for 9.99!!! And the punch line? It's all organized by HHH, the Hitler of the IWC. In this day and age, he worked you and you're now asking for him to take over WWE all together.

Do not get me wrong. There IS a developmental aspect to NXT. But it's more so them just signing the top indie performers and throwing them against a wall to see what sticks. If it sticks, there's something maybe there for developmental purposes and this could be someone who works the main roster. HHH has said it himself that not everyone in NXT will ever see the main roster, or be stars on it.

Now onto the "quality" of NXT, and the amount of praise it receives. And it's not that the performers do not deserve that, they do. From a production standpoint, there is nothing difficult about putting on NXT. NXT is not worried about selling thousands of seats 4 or 5 days a week. There are no advertisers buying time for NXT. There are no sponsors worried about NXT. There isn't THREE hours of time a week that NXT has to fill with commercials. There isn't ratings. There isn't buys. The WWE does not depend on NXT for anything in the big picture. It can literally do whatever it wants.

NXT as a show, is simply a condensed version of RAW. It's basically what RAW used to be. Cutting out the bull shit, and giving you just promos/wrestling/feuds. They have that ability because they are not RAW. As soon as they become RAW, they are no longer doing what they're doing, understand? When it comes to the main roster, and the main show(s) of the WWE Corporation, a show like NXT could NEVER happen. It would not draw.

You want to talk all this shit about how HHH should run WWE, go tell that to Alberto Del Rio or Phil Brooks. Guys who were respected performers around the world, and worked for HHH. See what they say about what a genius he is when it comes to booking. When it comes to the big picture, HHH is clueless and it shows on RAW every single week. How's that NXT guy Seth Rollins doing working DIRECTLY with HHH every single week?

So realize, NXT and RAW are two very separate entities. What they do on NXT is not what they'll be doing on RAW more times than not. Just look at Bray Wyatt. The only area where RAW could legitimately take cues from NXT is the handling of women. But even when it comes to that, they have the internet sold on HHH and WWE wanting to "give women a chance!!" LOL....it's not about that at all. It's about Steph and Hunter thinking they're going to make a pro wrestling version of Ronda Rousey. That elusive female talent who makes millions of dollars for them. But hey, it's still entertaining watching something like Becky vs. Sasha and then watching RAW to see how bad the Bellas are in comparison. I just very much doubt this "women's movement" ever ends up happening on the main roster.

There's your reality. You can hate it all you want, you can disagree and think HHH is trying to build a great wrestling program and take over WWE with it, you can think it's all about you, the fan. It's not. NXT is there to work you, while putting indie promotions out of business. It's all about the money at the end of the day. The phony headlines mean nothing to them.
 
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#2 ·
From a production standpoint, there is nothing difficult about putting on NXT. NXT is not worried about selling thousands of seats 4 or 5 days a week. There are no advertisers buying time for NXT. There are no sponsors worried about NXT. There isn't THREE hours of time a week that NXT has to fill with commercials. There isn't ratings. There isn't buys. The WWE does not depend on NXT for anything in the big picture. It can literally do whatever it wants.
This is all that needs to be said really. It's a pet project, NXT makes money but it's still not self-sufficient. Likely NXT has a budget, controlled by Vince or someone in the WWE finances department, on top of the additional revenue it receives from touring and merchandise sales. It's allowed to be loose because there are no sponsors and it's not on cable TV.
 
#4 ·
Your not wrong, it's part of the reason why even though I do enjoy NXT & will subscribe to the Network every once in a while when I want to watch some old PPVs & keep up with NXT without downloading the shows off of PirateBay, I realize that the majority of what we see will never translate to the "main roster."

I mean just look at Paige for the most part since she's been on TV, nothing compared to her on NXT. It is what it is, you can enjoy NXT - I mean I just recently went to a $20 house show & got to talk to Finn Balor, which is something I never expected to do while I was watching him in New Japan - but I don't expect great things when guys go to regular TV. It's more the booking & show structure then anything, NXT is designed like a weekly wrestling show, similar to how the old AWA shows were designed. Lucha Underground as well, it's a good format for wrestling purists. It's not live so it's cuts straight to the chase, promos happen then it bounces to a match etc. It's a good format, but your never gonna get that on a 3 hour Raw. WWE is hardly just there to present a wrestling show.
 
#5 ·
in short you could have said nxt was to make hhh one of the 4 horsemen of the iwc apocalypse (him, russo, jeff jarrett and idk who else) make the fat neckbeards like him
 
#6 ·
In large part, it exists to draw the IWC to the WWE, yes. And they flock right to it like the sheep that they are and think it's a sign of "change" in WWE, and HHH is the man to change things because he went on an Austin podcast and blamed all current problems on Vince while saying "I run NXT, that's awesome!!" and patting himself on the back.

It's all WWE horse shit to work the internet and make them into fans, thinking one day they'll see ____ on the main roster doing what they did in NXT.
 
#9 ·
Ryan Ward and Mickey Keegan are responsible for Creative at NXT and Dusty Rhodes was Director of Creative & Head-Writer while HHH is Executive Vice-President of Talent, Creative & Live Events for WWE & isn't the sole saviour to NXT!
 
#10 ·
You're right to some extent. People seem to think that Raw is as fucked up as it is purely because Vince is some old senile man. The main reason why Raw is the way it is is because SOCIETY has changed more than Vince has. Everybody wants the Attitude Era back but they don't understand that the sort of shit they pulled during the Attitude Era just wouldn't fly in todays society. A lot of things have changed in the past 20 years for better or for worse. If they aired a 1998 version of Raw next Monday without any warning then everybody from corporate sponsors to advertisers to parents would absolutely flip their shit. You can't show that kind of stuff on a wrestling show any more.

WWE was "better" because they had competition back then but what allowed them to pull off the shit they did was the fact that society gave them the green light. What society deems as acceptable programming for children today is much different than what it was when most of us were children. Just go back and watch some of your old favorite cartoons from when you were a kid and compare them to the shows of today. The shit is different. Hell go watch Looney Tunes. You couldn't even put that sort of shit on TV nowadays without parents losing their minds. No shooting Daffy Ducks head off with a shotgun in todays cartoons. Parents would flip.

People think that when Vince retires or dies and HHH takes over things will magically change. Wrong. Vince is bound by socieitys standards of acceptable programming and HHH will be too. It's all about money, not about what you people think. Bring back the gritty era of WWE and you will go bankrupt in todays day and age when every one of your sponsors and stockholders leaves you. Look what happened to TNA on Destination America. Discovery Channel couldn't find enough sponsors to agree to advertise on TNA even though these same sponsors will gladly advertise on stupid shows like hunting for a fake fucking bigfoot monster that only morons and children believe is actually real. Or advertise on a show that claims aliens actually brewed the beer you are drinking and its all one huge conspiracy theory and the president is actually an alien from one of Jupiters moons or some dumb shit.

"Wrestling" isn't popular in society anymore. Times have changed. The only reason WWE is even around now is because they have no choice but to bow to what society, shareholders, advertisers, parents etc allow them to show. All of the fucked up stuff that happens isn't solely Vince's fault. The man has little choice in what he is allowed to actually show on TV. In spite of what the ignorant thinks Vince isn't some dictator king who can sit back and do whatever he wants whenever he wants with the WWE. Real world doesn't work like that. All of the different income making machines for WWE have Vince by the balls and when HHH takes over those same shareholders and advertisers aren't going to just suddenly let go of those balls.

So yes, NXT is the way it is because it's not bound by the huge amount of bullshit that Vince is with Raw and Smackdown. NXT doesn't have to bow down to the wishes of advertisers or shareholders. They don't have to put a commercial every 3 minutes via contract by so and so company. They don't have to put on a 3 hour show to accommodate 35 commercials via contract. They don't have to be REALLY PG so as to not piss off their shareholders who will abandon them if they don't comply.

NXT is the result of a wrestling show being produced and run on an IN HOUSE internet network that isn't bound by the restrictions of SOCIETY. It's a niche wrestling show that can do whatever it wants because it doesn't have anybody to tell them they can't. Kind of like how you can say shit, fuck, pussy, and show full frontal nudity on HBO but you can't do it on ABC.

If you guys want WWE to be edgy and change then you have to make society change. Because as I've said all along its not Vince McMahon who fucked up WWE, it's this new age pussified society that fucked over WWE. Blame them, not him. And when HHH almighty steps in you all will be saying the exact same thing about how he sucks ass just like you say Vince sucks because you don't understand how the real world works.
 
#24 ·
This is what I am afraid of that soon that parents are going to want to see nothing good even if it PG. Oh Kevin Owens powerbombs John Cena well that may PG, BUT I WAS ENTERTAINED BY IT AND I HATE THAT KEVIN OWENS IS FAT. I am starting to hate our society. You know the only reason they actually hate wrestling is because of what I call the bandwagon effect, where if it is not in it is truly the worst thing possible.. I remember new heat fans said that Clevland was a trashy town becaue Lebron left, igonoring that Miami has crime and bums in fact they are kind of famous for it, but when you are on a bandwagon your not going to listin to logic or reason.
 
#13 ·
While what you say may have some minor truth to it; I still stand by my opinion of NXT being better then any thing senile Vinny Mac could produce these days.
 
#17 ·
I love how people are trashing the OP for writing an actual thought out post by saying it's too long to read.

Waahh the post was more than 3 lines of smart ass sarcastic comments I won't read it but Ill comment in the thread anyway.

What the OP said actually makes sense. If you lack the maturity to read more than a few lines at a time then thats your own problem not his.
 
#21 ·
It's not a good thing when a developmental brand is consistently better than the major leagues guys. Even if it is overrated along with HHH who went over Sting at WM(yet he knows what is best for business right?).

Best thing for us and arguably this fed would be to go back to being private.
 
#35 ·
I said this in another thread. I honestly think hhh is just building these guys up(Zayne,Owens,Balor,etc) so that when vince steps down and hhh runs shit. The former nxt guys will be his lackeys. The new kliq if u will lol. I imagine hhh having a retirement run. Beating Balor at Summerslam for US title.zayne at survivor series for IC belt. Wins the rumble. Then squashes Owens at mania for was belt and retires with all the belts. Wouldn't put it past him.
 
#39 ·
From a production standpoint, there is nothing difficult about putting on NXT. NXT is not worried about selling thousands of seats 4 or 5 days a week. There are no advertisers buying time for NXT. There are no sponsors worried about NXT. There isn't THREE hours of time a week that NXT has to fill with commercials. There isn't ratings. There isn't buys. The WWE does not depend on NXT for anything in the big picture. It can literally do whatever it wants.
This I agree is the whole reason why NXT works and is a popular success; consider it like this OP - NXT is on the Network which results in a shortened (due to no sponsors/ads) high-quality wrestling show whereas Raw/SD, as you rightly said, are dependant on the PG of Cable/TV rules and longer shows due to ads! Which tells me that for WWE's product to remain a success and a draw it needs to go Independant and free itself of all that holds back RAW/SD on cable/tv/sponsors. How? Go all out on Network only where the positives are already being seen as working for NXT that way RAW/SD can be a higher standard and shorter in length due to less ADs.
 
#41 ·
There are some good points in the OP. But at the same time, more than anything else, I think it's just that fans are surprised/happy/relieved to see a part of the WWE product that is actually somewhat coherent and doesn't come off as a show that is written by ex-Hollywood Soap Opera writers that are no longer wanted in Hollywood. I mean, I know that's what it is for me, and I am far from the biggest NXT mark on here. I'm just someone who is entertained more times than not by what they present. :shrug
 
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