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So i haven't watched in a while...

3K views 47 replies 25 participants last post by  SHIVV-EAUX-EMME-GEEE 
#1 · (Edited)
I stopped watching around the time Punk left, watched Mania and an odd show here and there and that's been it, thought i'd give raw a bash tonight. Is this a really bad raw or has it just dipped down to this standard? And wtf happened to Sandow man? That was horrible.
 
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#13 ·
Perfect way to slam the WWE without saying WWE... and how come they can create vignettes like this that are basically an ad and it still does more to build the product and the show than a month's worth of Raw <_<
 
#14 ·
I never thought I'd ever say this, but I think I'm officially done with the "E". I went on a hiatus a few years go, while Angle, Rey and Big Show were the top guys on SD. I would LOVE to have that type of WWE back right now. I'm hearing good things about Lucha and have seen some glimpses of some pretty exciting wrestling as well. I think I'll start tuning in to it and TNA for "The Chosen One".
 
#15 ·
I never thought I'd ever say this, but I think I'm officially done with the "E". I went on a hiatus a few years go, while Angle, Rey and Big Show were the top guys on SD. I would LOVE to have that type of WWE back right now. I'm hearing good things about Lucha and have seen some glimpses of some pretty exciting wrestling as well. I think I'll start tuning in to it and TNA for "The Chosen One".
I'm getting pretty close to calling it a day too. I can't even sit through a whole Raw or Smackdown anymore. They dont feel worth taping either.

By all means though, do give LU a shot. That is a fine show I enjoy when I watch it.
 
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Here's an example of why Lucha Underground is awesome, and this is a bit spoilerish for anyone not watching so fair warning

They introduce their version of the tag titles...which are for 3 on 3 matches because LU always has to show that they are different from their competition. They spend like a whole 2 or 3 weeks building this up with a tournament full of awesome matches. This tournament has MAIN EVENTERS competing for the title (INCLUDING THE FUCKING WORLD CHAMPION!), because in LU they are NO meaningless titles. The owner of the company even says in a backstage segment that he wants those titles to be almost as important as the world title.

We get 3 wrestlers (Angelico, Ivelisse, and Son of Havoc) who have been jobbers in this company...and can't get along due to various personal issues built up over weeks, thrown together for this tournament by the sadistic heel authority figure. He claims they're all losers with no major singles victories, so he's throwing them in this tournament. Somehow, they make it to the finals despite not getting along and Ivelisse even walking out on a match. We get to last week's show. They build the whole show around the final match of the tournament involving Ivelisse, Son of Havoc, and Angelico against two other teams, one of which includes some hot new talents who will use this match to show people what they've got, and another team consisting of major, main event player heels. It's built up like a pay per view match and main events the show.

Miraculously, Angelico, Havoc and Ivelisse outlast the other two teams and get the pinfall for the title, partially due to one of the teams getting eliminated due to an attack on one of their members by a mysterious guy in the audience. This is their first big win in Lucha Underground after unsuccessful runs as singles wrestlers....but noooooooo, out comes the heel owner.

He announces one more team personally selected by him, and makes the match no disqualification. Out comes a heel team that is known to be on his payroll, a team that once beat down one of the largest guys on the roster and burned out his eye with a cigar ON A TELEVISED EPISODE OF THIS SHOW. Forget PG television. They come down to the ring with kendo sticks. They beat the shit out of Angelico, Ivelisse and Son of Havok...all around the arena. Ivelisse is practically on one leg from a leg injury she sustained in the last match. One of the guys BITES HER IN THE HEAD. Angelico is fighting another one of them out in the crowd...and kind of getting his ass handed to him. Meanwhile, Son of Havoc gets suplexed off a balcony directly in front of some fans, but eventually he mounts a brief comeback, with a somersault off the balcony for a great spot. Still, his team mates are getting beat down. Ivelisse is about to get a kendo stick beat down by two guys in the ring. Matt Striker sounds worried for her safety and points out that she's by herself with Havoc down and Angelico too far away to help. Just when things are looking grim for the team, THIS happens:




This gets a "HOLY SHIT!!!" from Striker on commentary

The look on Ivelisse's face after that spot...is...priceless and makes for good story telling. After seeing that, she forces herself up on practically one leg, grabs the kendo stick and LAYS INTO THE ENTIRE OPPOSING TEAM with strike after strike. Angelico comes to, Son of Havoc gets in the ring. Ivelisses looks at them and starts yelling at them to go high...they climb the turnbuckles and both come flying off the turnbuckles onto their opponents for a double pinfall. The place goes nuts. Striker puts ALL THREE OF THEM OVER by retelling their entire history leading up to this moment, pointing out what underdogs they all were. He treats this moment with all the importance of someone winning the world title. The crowd busts out a that was awesome chant, followed by a you deserve it chant.

Now keep in mind, Ivelisse...a woman, has just won a major title that MEN and MAIN EVENTERS competed for. On a show, where another woman claimed a victory in a singles match against a major male heel.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is Lucha Underground

And one last note, when's the last time WWE put that much effort into a FUCKING TAG TITLE STORYLINE OR MATCH?
 
#8 ·
Unfortunately WWE has a ridiculously stubborn fanbase. I see so many people complain about WWE and say how horrendous it is then brush off shit like Lucha Underground, PWG, ROH, NJPW etc. I get that not everybody is super into 20-30 minute wrestling matches (as unfortunate as that is), even then, Lucha Underground blows WWE out of the universe in every single department.

Moral of the story, EVERYBODY GO WATCH LUCHA UNDERGROUND BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING INCREDIBLE (and PWG because its the best promotion in the history of ever:cool:).
 
#16 ·
There are really good shows out there, but a lot of people think WWE is wrestling and there is no alternative. TNA is better right now. Lucha Underground is a lot better. ROH is better. NJPW blows WWE out of the water.

With the talent WWE has, its really sad what they have become. I watched a little bit of Raw tonight, but it bored me so fast I turned it to Fox News to watch this Baltimore fiasco. As long as people watch the garbage WWE has become, they will never go back to being a must see wrestling product. They are at the bottom when it comes to quality out of all the major wrestling promotions.
 
#19 ·
It's a different Era. One day this era will stop & a new one will begin. Smh at those who keep living in the past.

Y'all sound like my parents who thumb their noses up at every piece of modern music because apparently, Motown is the only acceptably genre. :deanfpalm
 
#22 ·
So watching and enjoying Lucha Underground, NXT, NJPW, TNA, a slew of indies, and RoH is only living in the past? Sorry to break it to you, but this current WWE main roster era is absolute shit and that's that. It's not nostalgia or people unwilling to give it a shot... it's just flat out terrible.
 
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#21 ·
I find almost no reason to tune in every Monday. Im about ready to throw in the towel myself. Perfect example was Sandow last night. I saw that and just said WTF?
 
#27 ·
It really is horrendous at this point, apart from NXT, WWE really isn't worth your time right now, the booking is a mess, they're failing to build up new stars and the match quality really is low at this moment, even though I don't watch Lucha Underground, it is definitely worth checking out along with NJPW on AXS, might be worth checking back around SummerSlam time when Brock Lesnar returns.
 
#33 ·
Im happy to see more people are starting to watch Lucha Underground. Once you watch it you will never want to go back to RAW again and you will wonder why the fuck you kept watching that garbage when there were other fantastic options. Lucha is the best wrestling show in the world at this moment.
 
#38 ·
WWE is boring, nothing its important, they wrestle the same exact match almost every show, tons of comercials, tons of meaningless promos, little star powers, no interesting characters etc...
 
#39 ·
It hasnt been this bad since.... 2010- early 2011 and thats the last time I quit watching so I really feel like taking a break since theres nothing to get excited about. Even the guys I like are boring. Im so over Rollins and the authority. Same promo every week. Creative sucks. .
Sandow is about the only thing im interested in
 
#43 ·
OP I suggest you to watch NXT or Lucha Underground. Both these shows are WAY much better than the crappy RAW and that other irrelevant D-Show called SmackDown.

I mean, NXT and LU are such a joy to witness, even if NXT has slowed it down a bit, it's still enjoyable to watch. But when it comes to Lucha Underground, I feel excited every single episode. If only it was on a bigger channel than El Rey, I'm sure they'd light a fire under WWE's old ass
 
#46 ·
Nothing WWE has done in a looooooong time has been this exciting, and different, and creative.

And Grave Consequences? Good luck seeing something like that in WWE, or intergender matches, or backstage stuff that doesn't suck, or authority figures who don't suck or an ENTIRE ROSTER that actually MATTERS. A secondary title that MATTERS.
 
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