People are waking up about Warrior. Only marks/smarks know the truth. The casual fans doesn't know much and are like "oh rip". But now they are waking up to. So much that WWE blocked comments on Warrior when Vince Mcmahon put a hypocrisy tribute on youtube.
WWE are blocking the shitstorm coming in. The truth is leaking out.
Ultimate Warrior hated on good ol JR. Our good ol commentator JR. Warrior took a dump on JR. He hated on everyone. Warrior said it was perfect Heenan got cancer. Warrior made racist and homophobics statement.
Ultimate Warrior even trashed the victims of Katrina hurricane.
This goes beyond kayfabe. This stuff Warrior says, is nothing compared to a little politics protecting your own brand.
This is much much worse, because it's real life.
Dana warrior didn't inductee Connor, she talked more about the Warrior. She having the same values, making the whole award feel so fake.
People saying that Stone Cold did awful stuff, but Warrior was far worse. SCSA is an angel compared to Warrior.
I hope the award is a one time only, the name shouldn't be asscociated with a hompohobic racist name IMO.
The man was a cunt, a vile minded scumbag. I was a HUGE Warrior fan so believe me, if I could conclude otherwise then I would have.
That said, I'm less bothered by the whole Warrior award stuff than the fairytale they've turned him into purely because it's so far from the reality - we're supposed to take his WWF/E redemption/peace making and use a little cognitive dissonance to believe that he stopped being a piece of shit who celebrated people's deaths (e.g. Heath Ledger, Bobby Heenan...ah yes, Bobby outlived Warrior! Stay healthy Bobbby!), celebrated people's terminal illness, stood on stage to tell young people that "Queers aren't equal to heterosexuals", and was an all around disgusting person steeped in hypocrisy.
Here's my recent post that cited numerous examples of exactly why Warrior was all the things I said:
What Austin did was horrific, the reason he's been forgiven by many if not most for that is because he's actually openly acknowledged what a fucked up person he was when he brutally beat Debra and has expressed deep shame and sorrow over it ever since. If you don't feel that's enough to forgive a person then that's fine but understand that this is why he's not widely maligned for what he did - he's never done anything remotely similar in times since and so people are willing to give him a second chance as he's atoned for his crimes so to speak.
Note that 'Complaining Online' and Loudon/Townes are trolls and should be treated as such.
The man was a cunt, a vile minded scumbag. I was a HUGE Warrior fan so believe me, if I could conclude otherwise then I would have.
That said, I'm less bothered by the whole Warrior award stuff than the fairytale they've turned him into purely because it's so far from the reality - we're supposed to take his WWF/E redemption/peace making and use a little cognitive dissonance to believe that he stopped being a piece of shit who celebrated people's deaths (e.g. Heath Ledger, Bobby Heenan...ah yes, Bobby outlived Warrior! Stay healthy Bobbby!), celebrated people's terminal illness, stood on stage to tell young people that "Queers aren't equal to heterosexuals", and was an all around disgusting person steeped in hypocrisy.
Here's my recent post that cited numerous examples of exactly why Warrior was all the things I said:
" it’s just too difficult to keep a straight face talking about the pure two-faced bag of shit you are (and have always been), what, with you also actually wearing one as a piece of body jewelry"
:lmao
Never read that till now. Epic stuff from Warrior.
Butt hurt butt pirates shouldn't be watching wrestling in the first place. Go watch My Little Pony if you're offended. Fans like you are the reason it has to be PG now, because they can't hurt your precious feelings.
It was only a matter of time before somebody immature said something ridiculously stupid. In fact there is a magnitude of stupidity in this thread just as expected because people can't control themselves when discussing things that are controversial.
I'll be honest, it fucking irritates me when someone makes a thread about a specific wrestler's flaws, but really only does it to compare the flaws with that of their favourite wrestler and makes excuses for said favourite wrestler. I feel genuinely sorry for The Ultimate Warrior's family, but aye he was a wanker himself and the WWE are milking this to an cringey extent.
But the OP making this thread to say, "Oh Austin wasn't that bad, don't 'hate' on my fave wrestler" is pathetic, imo.
I didn't. Well you can compare but for me it's more sickening because Warrior was doing things over and over again, against so many people he's behaviour is worse.
Absolutely disagree. If he were truly being left to rest in peace then I'd agree but the entire point of the OP's post is that WWE is promoting a narrative about the man and is making him a significant part of their feelgood stories. If WWE insists on talking about him and naming awards in his name to honour him then why should viewers/fans not also speak about him?
Considering that more and more people will be exposed to WWE's phony fairytale version of Warrior, it makes perfect sense to discuss the disparity between their fiction and his reality. I don't know why you think you're in any position to say the last part here
There's nothing else to talk about? What, because you've decreed it and so it must be? Really shitty attitude there, perhaps you don't care but plainly there are those of us who do and who find value in this discussion.
OP has only read that deadspin (note "spin" is used in its name and that's all you need to now about deadspin) article and knows nothing of actual context of any of the statements made or the clarifications Warrior gave.
Bullshit. You're just pulling claims out of your arse here; prove me wrong, tell me how you know what the OP has and hasn't read - how do you know they "know nothing of actual context"? Read my linked post from another thread where I go out of my way to give full quotes and context (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/gener...racist-homophobic-warrior-6.html#post47293834) - did the OP read that? Apparently you're the guy to ask!
More from the Legion of the Selectively butthurt..sigh. "Ultimate Warrior was evil, but everything SCSA did was sent from heaven".
People like this frantically search the web just looking for something to be offended about. Guess what? if that's all you want, you can find it anywhere. It's why nothing can get done in this country, we're too busy trying to mollify the sensitivity trolls.
Again, horse shit. In your cartoon version of how other people behave, sure that's exactly what they/we do. In reality, horse shit. "It's why nothing can get done in this country" - what utterly banal and substance devoid nonsense.
Precisely, people in this thread are acting like he was a criminal. And they are ignoring that in his last days he seemed to be doing a lot of inspirational stuff. The fact that he made amends with a lot of former enemies shows that he was possibly a changed man.
Listen, I'm not saying I wouldn't have gone fishin with the man, but The Warrior was a prick. There's really no way around that. The more people know the better and they can make their own mind up as to how they value the guy.
Warrior was a piece of shit, theres no doubt about that but he isn't worse in now way, shape or form than anyone who has physically harm another human being.
I'd like to see how everyone bashing him would fare if they were put under the same microscope. People love to bang on about this person being racist or whatever, but if you can honestly say you've never made a racist or stereotype comment/joke/remark in your life, then feel free to judge other people. If you have, then shut up and stop judging others.
I don't agree with his philosophies on things, but he's entitled to his opinion like everyone else is. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd imagine most of the people going out of their way to bash him are people who are just seeking attention rather than being outraged at his past remarks. To them I say get a life.
lol @ someone making homophobic comments being worse than a 260 pound man beating the shit outta a woman in real life. I guess Warrior was also worse than Chris Benoit as well.
lol @ someone making homophobic comments being worse than a 260 pound man beating the shit outta a woman in real life. I guess Warrior was also worse than Chris Benoit as well.
You can make this thread a million more times but there's no sh** storm coming because very few people care. Like care about wrestling in general. They could make Jimmy Snuka their advocate against women's violence ambassador and nobody in the media would blink twice about it because they don't give a d***. A thread you've made 18 times in the Webzone isn't going to do sh**.
Look at this thread. 1 page in and it's nothing more than a mark contest like any other thread here.
The Ultimate Warrior gimmick was awesome. The person who portrayed it was bad. He was extremely cruel in his comments. I honestly couldn't stand how unsensitive this guy was.
I have the feeling he knew there something was wrong with his health and decided to bury the hatchet with the WWE and have one last hurrah. This gave the people a different view of who he really was.
I am no one to judge, but I just can't have a good image of Warrior the person.
I don't think people realize that a guy like the Ultimate Warrior, hate him or love him, he's old school and has opinions that aren't politically correct. Even with the stuff about Bobby Hennan, maybe he just had heat with the guy and was saying something mean, knowing it would get back to him?
Anyway, these types of guy's come from a very different time lol, but it always cracks me up when people are surprised that UW didn't like gays or something. Like what's the next shocker going to be? He doesn't like flying on planes that have muslims on them?
But, I don't see the point in bashing his wife because of comments he made.
Nor do I see the point in discussing all of this just so you can take heat off an admittedly roid raging wrestler beating up a woman.
People's threshold for despicable acts varies. But even then, I can't imagine anybody finding homophobic statements to be worse than beating a woman, unless you're a homosexual and that might be reaching.
Being married to someone like Warrior, you share some familary values. Or you just don't get married. If you don't wanna get married to a racist homophobic jerk.
And all she did was talk more about Warrior then Connor being inductee, it was like seeing Warrior gertting in HoF all over again.
Something really fake about here, just like the award is just all about the money.
The same ones here trashing warrior now that he's dead are the same ones who defend and love chris benoit. Nothing warrior did was in the same league as benoit but that goes to show you how hypocritical some can be.
Expecting any kind of morality from WWE? Warrior's history is known, Stephanie was tweeting that philanthropy is the new brand marketing (as the deceased Connor was inducted) and well known wifebeaters taking prominent roles at Mania.
The company is pure trailer trash. Has some entertaining products though
lol @ anyone defending Warrior's comments. Most all of you defending him would be trashing the guy big time if he was just some random guy on the street spouting this shit. But because he entertained you with his fake wrasslin' (except minus the wrestling talent), you find it perfectly fine for him to do so because "oh, he has a right to say what he wants." Homophobia is one thing, but saying that he's glad so-and-so is dead or that a daughter is better off without her father (despite zero evidence of said father being a terrible parent... and I'm referring to Heath Ledger on that one) makes him a disgusting human being.
And on the subject of him making some great contribution to the wrestling world, he is the textbook definition of a flash in the pan.
Casey Anthony should be inducted to WWE hall of fame as the first Benoit Award! The Crippler trophy!
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