The thing about Flair is most of his legend is just that...legend, if you're not in your 40s right now you weren't going to really be around to see Flair at his peak so a lot of the time most people who say how awesome he was are just doing it because it's the thing to do.
Hogan, Austin and Rock were/are international superstars, Flair never was. In Europe they had their own legends at the time as they did in Mexico and Japan too.
Here is the problem. Is this a WWE specific seeding? Is this seeding based off of the past twenty years? Is this an all time seeding for practically almost a century of wrestling regardless of promotion? Is this seeding based off of popularity or more geared to actual wrestling impact on the business?
The only way Cena should be ahead of Flair is if the seeding is WWE specific.
(being that Flair was a NWA made star and not a WWE made star)
Since 1980 Hogan and Flair are the two wrestlers who have had the most overall impact on the business wrestling wise. Hogan represents the WWE and Flair the NWA and later WCW.
You guys know jack shit about pro wrestling. A gut dominating a national mono poly on national tv who was in that spot for 2 years doesn't make him an automatic no brained number 1. What about someone who sold out areNas based on his reputation alone, before tv? Where would he rank? What about the guy so outrageous, so popular he fucking got pro wrestling on tv in the first place? I understand you naturally place much greater respect on guys from 'your'era bur all time means just that ALL TIME.
Flair
hogan
buddy rogers
Jim Londos
And for you putz's putting down ric flair, just another example that you're an imbecile.
Not even close. Cena is way more well known in popular culture today. He's a household name because of all the advertisments, music (rap album and he recently made a song with Wiz Khalifa), video game advertisments, movies, and of course PPV advertisments. Also there is a very popular prank call video that features Cena and it has millions of views on Facebook which is used mostly by teenagers
What exactly has Flair done in the past 5 years to keep his name relevant.
Nah it was just the the four 1 seeds.
It was wrestling popularity specific, mainstream appeal, big moments. Wrestlers who were big in wrestling but at the same time reached outside
And Broke through based off their wrestling impact. The said hogan rock and Austin and flair based off his
16 titles. They mentioned Andre, warrior, taker, sammartino, etc as well. They talked about it cause of wrestlemania and it was sports talk radio. Hahah it was pretty funny.
And no the the Mount Rushmore debate will never end.
I think it's a habit for people to sway away from impact players from older eras. In terms of the "modern" era of the past 30+ since the big wrestling boom it's clearly the three goats that opened mania, as each 3 obviously had mega careers based off their wrestling popularity and accomplishments. Personally i still think Andre should still be the fourth number one seed, but flair, buddy Rodgers, sammartino, taker (longevity)and others are obviously in the discussion too.
It was just funny hearing the perspective from people who don't know about wrestling.
When it comes to modern American pro wrestling, those 4 would be it.
So many guys can give them a run for their money though.
Gorgeous George, Bruno Sammartino, we could even say Lou Thesz if we wanted to go back that far back, Buddy Rogers, and if we wanted to go worldwide, there would be guys like Antonio Inoki, Kenta Kobashi, Mitsuharu Misawa. The list is just so big.
Seriously? Come on man I respect what you are trying to do here but Bruno? Nope.....WWF revisionist history strikes again. I would put Gagne, Race, Rogers, Andre, HBK, Rhodes, Funk, Lawler, Thesz, Savage, etc.. above Bruno.
In America, Hogan and Flair are no brainers. Ridiculous how many people dismiss Flair.
It is just so bizarre how the IWC has just "decided" that Flair was overrated and his legacy is crap because of his poor decisions later in life. Guys, 30 years ago the IWC type fans were in love with Flair on a level than Bryan or Punk cannot fathom. Flair was the "smarks" choice. Hogan was the Cena of that era. That was how it was. But the WWF "won" and you guys have swallowed their truth hook line and sinker...sad.
Rogers and Austin are 3 and 4 in my mind. Rock and Andre are viable as well, but this is just my opinion. Gorgeous George and Verne Gagne are right there but probably not top 6.
World-Wide? The Japanese guys would not get a sniff. El Santo was more of a world wide star than Inoki or Baba and so was Mil Mascaras.
Gorgeous George was a bigger tv star than all of them. :fact
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