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Wow. Reigns v Big Show was AWKWARD.

9K views 81 replies 67 participants last post by  Annihilus 
#1 ·
At points I wasn't sure if they were wrestling, or if Reigns had a Charlie Horse and Big Show was fixing it in the most awkward way possible. The only people I've ever seen Big Show have good matches with are Lesnar, Mark Henry, and Shaemus.

The crowd itself was dead. They really couldn't even get up the urge to go Roman Sucks and the few women chanting Lets Go Roman (To Bed) couldn't really get the crowd going to cheer him or heckle him(although backstage I'm sure this was met with high-fives and delusional confirmation bias that everything is going as planned).

They just really seemed like a crowd that wanted to like him(largely non-smark), but just couldn't get into his match at all. They did give him the traditional finish cheer, although I'm not sure if part of that wasn't the fact that they were glad it was finally over.

The contrast to Bryan's match with Kane was night and day. It wasn't the greatest thing ever(casket matches largely never are), but at least the crowd was into it and it had a decent flow with a solid finish.

Oh... and that promo for the casket match? Are they trying to make Reigns look stronger by making sure Glenn has to deliver the cheesiest promos ever? "Hey.. Reigns's promos are Bad, but just look at what we're having Kane do" Just wow.
 
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#6 · (Edited)
Ahh.. Big Show is the problem.

So if Lesnar was in the match last night instead of Reigns, you'd say same dead crowd, same botched spots, etc? What if it was Cena? Yet Reigns is the guy they're expecting to replace both. Reigns simply doesn't have the energy, strength, and presence to pull that shit off. You can smolder and mug for the women all you want. When it comes to the ring, you have to bring it. And Reigns just can't.

Lesnar would have lit that place on fire(regardless of if its Big Show) and dared Bryan to top him. Oh, and sorry... but a spear or a Samoan Drop is not the same as F5'ing or AA'ing Show. Reigns looked silly just making like he was going to suplex Big Show. I took one look and said 'ya.. that aint happening'. And of course it didn't.
 
#10 ·
I think you were too easy on it. That was one of the worst matches I've seen this year. It's supposed to be billed as one of the top matches, the first step towards fixing a huge blunder from the Rumble, and how'd it go?

Just botch after botch, neither guy selling anything convincingly, just a terrible start to trying to get this thing back on track.

My favorite botch was that terribly awkward part where big show had Roman in a leg hold, and he climbed up the ropes holding onto them for a while (shouldn't Big Show have to break after 5, do they know their own made up rules?), and then Roman moves his legs up and Big Show like waddles towards the ropes and gently falls out. The whole match just looked pathetic.

Why would they put Reigns with somebody who can't cover up his weaknesses in his first match after this debacle? He should've fought Rusev or somebody BETTER than him, not the one guy on the roster with less skill in the ring. Another troubling decision.
 
#13 ·
That headscissors part was bad.

First, Show has Reigns' leg trapped in that submission. Roman makes it to the ropes once, the referee does nothing.

He grabs the ropes with both hands again and the referee doesn't even try for a 5 count or try getting Show to back off. And then when Reigns tries to headscissor Show out of the ring, it doesn't go all the way and Show has to take a super awkward bump.
 
#25 ·
Well a lot of people have bad TV matches, but in fairness he's only really had one big solo PPV match, so he's only 0/1 there, that's not that bad right? I'm sure he'll have plenty more practice before they put him in his second PPV match... oh wait... oh no!
 
#15 ·
Awkward? Are you kidding me right now?

That match was EPIC, it was like a blockbuster Movie condensed down into one awe inspiring segment, one we'll be watching again and again for decades to come.

Big Show is a GIANT, AN UNSTOPPABLE 9 FOOT 700 POUND MAN.


And when it looks like nobody can save us, nobody can stop the giant...

OUT COMES ROAN RAINZ the Juggernaught superhero giant-slayer OOOOOOO RA BLIE'DAT :reigns
 
#46 ·
You don't seem bias at all, and he said one fucking sentence, and it was a short one. Seriously constructive criticism is fine but the shit you're spewing is just hilarious.
 
#20 ·
Stop pandering to Reigns. it's time to take of the training wheels and treat him like the new face of the company that he is. If he deserves the Mania main event,then it is not unreasonable to expect him to draw the best crowd reactions and put on clinics in the ring. He also better top the ratings every week. I will hold him to the standard I held Bryan last year and he invariably delivered on those criteria. Reigns failed on every level tonight. Anther swing and a miss.
 
#23 ·
Awkward is not the word, it was a real stinker!

Now this is the guy they want as the face of the company, who only looks good when facing a great working heel who can carry the match for him. Its a big problem!

We all know he's not ready to carry the ball and run with it. Remains to be seen if he can cope with the pressure of being a champion on his own, as he has not even been through the normal stage of most top guys by paying his dues like jobbing to better talent, without forgetting that he has not even held a single championship of his own in the past.

It goes against all logic to push him against Lesnar in a title match at mania 31. It is a lose-lose situation for Lesnar who clearly could wipe the floor with this guy, the same guy who can't even clearly beat the jobbing big show on smackdown. As for Reigns, he doesnt have the skills or the power to beat Lesnar clean in the ring, he can't come out of this a babyface at the end. The fans can see through this charade already, its a big friggin' mess so far.

Going back on that disastrous Reigns vs Show match that was supposed to put over Reigns as the legitimate top face and , I guess, put an end to the rumble's controversy:

There was either an evident lack of skills from both men or Show was reluctant to put Reigns over. His no-selling to Roman's offence makes me think he doesn't respect him.

I'm one of those guys who think that Big Show has never been booked properly for a guy his size. Never Andre the Giant was made to look weak. And that's because Andre, not only did he have a lot of talent but he also wouldn't take shit from nobody and you couldn't make him do stuff he didn't agree to. So, Big Show who is nowhere near Andre in terms of talent,who's been badly booked from wcw to wwe, who can only job at this point (since putting someone over requires you to have some credibility) and who can't work that good is being booked in a feud against Reigns who can't work... hmmm nothing like great thinking to make us jump into the Reigns train!!

This is why Reigns as a babyface wwe champion can't work. There is not enough decent top heels to carry him around for more than a few months. Now keep in mind that Reigns as a heel champion is not better since he can't cut a promo and can't carry matches. He needs at least 2 more years to prove he's got as much talent as some people seem to think he has.

The road to WM 31 is going to suck if they don't come up with an alternative to this upcoming fiasco.

Sadly, i don't think Vince gives a shit and is still going to go forward with that Reigns push to the end because... well... he's into sports entertainment, not wrestling!
 
#24 ·
There are lots of wrestlers on the roster that could carry Reigns to a decent match, doesn't have to be anything amazing at this point, especially not on fucking Smackdown, but good lord Big Show is not the man to do that. It baffles me, I find some of Show's stuff entertaining and don't intensely dislike the guy like some, but why saddle Reigns with him? Put one guy who can't work with another one and what the fuck do you expect? Right after he's won the Rumble as well ffs.
 
#26 ·
Yeah I thought the match sucked. Hopefully that's the end of Reigns v Show.

If they want Reigns to look strong (not the Punk joke guys), they should have him in the ring with guys like Sheamus, Cesaro and Barrett.

Those 3 could carry him to a solid match. It doesn't need to be flashy, just a basic meat and potatoes match that makes everyone look good.

Reigns is in a similar position to Batista in 04-early 05. He's not in the top bracket of talents but needs the right dancing partner to help him get there.

Experience is the key and he won't get that from guys like Show and Kane, as they won't help in putting on a good match. Not saying they are bad, but in chemistry terms, they won't be carrying Reigns to any 5 star matches.
 
#28 ·
Yea it was an a terrible match and only reinforces the fact that Reigns needs someone to carry him.

How long did it go ? 8-10 minutes with a ton of rest spots and the guy was visibly knackered by the end of it.

It's no surprise though as he doesn't have the experience of working long matches. He can't just go about significantly improving his cardio without working long matches very often.

He doesn't have time to do this and if he's in another multi-man match at Fast Lane then Jesus, that is a terrible idea unless they plan on having this Reigns/Lesnar match go 10 minutes.

He really needs to be working 15-20 minute singles matches every night at house shows from now until Mania. He obviously isn't going to hit the cardio hard in the gym and change his diet because he won't want to lose any size so the only way he can improve it is by doing the matches every night.

Stone Cold pointed out that he thinks Lesnar is going to struggle to carry Reigns as he will be the one in control in there and that isn't really in Lesnar's skill set. He is always working with a top name who calls the spots and lays the match out for him.

If it's left to Vince and backstage agents to lay this match out it'll probably be a disaster.

So much could go wrong with this. It just should not be happening this year. It is way too early.
 
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