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So Bryan Wins the Title. Then?

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#1 ·
So let's say hyopthetically Daniel Bryan won RR and went on to win at Mania. The most appealing thing about him is that he's small, full of heart, and is an underdog. We root for him to overcome all that. So when he does, and is now champ, and no longer an underdog, what else is there? Can he have a long, successful title reign? What would keep him appealing? And would WWE want their champ to still base his whole title reign on still being an underdog trying to hold on to his title? Not saying I know how it'd go, Just something I was thinking about. Any ideas?
 
#17 ·
Here's a novel idea:

Perform wrestling matches with other wrestlers on a wrestling show owned by "World Wrestling Entertainment".
I guess I'm overthinking things though.
Yeah but does he wrestle a garbage man or a cop or a construction worker or an Indian or a Navy vet or something? What non wrestler gimmick tries to beat him. We can't just let him wrestle a wrestler with a wrestler' s gimmick. :vince
 
#10 ·
Exactly. So you he'd go from a guy we all want to see succeed, to a guy we can't stand the sight of, and not Bc he's a super heel, but Bc we're tired of the same old sh*t. The strong, confident champion ala Brock works. The undersized, underdog champion is tougher to believe, and to STAY behind Bc there's seemingly only one way his run can go.
 
#5 ·
In a perfect world? He would have matches with CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Bray Wyatt, Damien Sandow, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, and some of the great NXT talent that is bound to come up in 2015.

What fans would appeal to is the great fucking matches they would be gifted by arguably the best talent on the roster.
 
#47 ·
Have him hold the title until he dies.

Marks won't want anyone else to win it so they HiJack his funeral and demand they bury the title with Bryan and retire it. They boo at the funeral and force Vince's hand.

The title gets buried with Bryan and the Fans Yes chant as the casket drops.
 
#52 ·
Dude that's awesome. And that's how it feels. I think we can all agree he's good. And he belongs in a prominent spot in the company. But the idea that he's the best worker/speaker/etc by miles kills me. Somewhere apparently it got cool to just rebel against them and find a way to be upset over anything the the WWE does so we'll hate everyone they choose to push, and push anyone they don't. And if he ends up at some point getting the push, it'll be those same people in 6 months who are over it, and booing til the next guys comes up. Don't like it, don't watch. But they will, every week, just like always
 
#43 · (Edited)
First off, you don't know what you're talking about. Those are just things you assume. Bryan plays a good underdog but don't forget he was getting cheered over IWC god CM Punk outright at Over the Limit 2012 as heel and was getting cheered to such a degree that they had to create that Hell No tag team as a diversion to allow the Punk title reign to continue so fans wouldn't do what they did in 2013 for Bryan heading into Summerslam.

Bryan is the best performer In the WWE. That's why he's cheered as hard as he is. if he won the title, what do you do? Put him against Seth, Sheamus, Wyatt for the payback, and Cesaro. Easily can go 6 months of feuds with those opponents alone. It doesn't take a genius to do what they used to do for Austin and everybody else.

Oh yeah..if they took Bryan off of Raw, that would end Reigns. Simple as that. That's telling the fans he's not good enough to be around the fan loved star that is Bryan and that we are afraid to have them at the same place at the same time.
 
#51 ·
Ha We have smarks in the water! First things first, Bryan is GOOD in the ring. Not the best. Guys like Seth, Dolph, and heck, even Bray consistently surprise us w new stuff in the ring far more than DB. It's come to the point where I can script his matches w ease... He's getting beaten down 90% of the time, then he'll find a way to dig real deep and mount a comeback, that's when we get kicks to a kneeling guys chest, a run up the turnbuckle into a weak backflip, a dive through the middle rope, and then he runs real fast from corner to corner and hits flying knees. So stop. The idea that he's miles ahead of everyone in the ring is a farce. Secondly, I know this is blasphemy amongst the marks as yourself, but I'm not even totally sure if it's him being over as much as it is the YES chant being over. If that doesn't catch fire, who knows how the crowd interacts w him? I know that prob hurts your heart, but it's true. Look, he's solid in all areas and he deserves to be near the top of the card. Nobody's debating that. And don't get me wrong, I like the idea of the underdog raising up and toppling the bigger guy but how many times can we run that story before it gets corny? A champion is supposed to be someone who people believe is going to win. You can't go into literally every feud expecting lose. How is that a champion? I'll be honest I liked him a lot and really appreciated what he did a lot more until I got to reading in here and every post is reminding me how great he is, that he's a WWE God, and the company would crumble without him. It's almost like the Cena effect where I liked him till I was over saturated w him, and now I don't even wanna hear about him anymore. And btw he's not Austin, a 250 Lb ass kicker we never expected to lose. He can't be booked like Austin. And no matter how loud the building gets when he comes through the curtain, I saw almost literally EVERYBODY in an Austin 3:16 shirt in the 90's. I only see a few YES shirts scattered throughout the crowd, while Cena gear continues to be everywhere
 
#54 ·
Nahh not a better worker. The other guy said "best in ring performer". If you asked me right now of Id rather watch a Bray wyatt match or D Bryan match, I'm saying it's not a 100% no doubter. I find myself entertained more often lately by wyatt Bc not knowing what I might see is cool to me. Him grabbing a mic mid rumble and cutting a promo is different. His teaming w Harper, then smiling and opening his arms as harper and Rowan seemingly turn on him. The total package in there is more entertaining to me than the match I described where Bryan takes a beating and has a minute to win it. Make sense? Or still no?
 
#57 ·
it is illuminating to see the dearth of knowledge exhibited by some posters here. Bryan's moveset is much larger than what he is constrained to do by WWE. Ask Seth Rollins what he thinks about Bryan. He called him Picasso in the ring. I imagine that makes Roman a finger painter. Ask Cesaro. he respects Bryan immensely. The appellation BEST IN THE WORLD was conferred to him by fans in ROH and the boys in the back. Now that title is entirely subjective but Almost everyone, except some dregs here,agrees he is one of the absolute best in the world. Hell, even with his limited WWE moveset, he evokes much louder reactions than the other performers because he goes at an all out,exciting pace. There isnt time for the lengthy rest holds that so many other employ. Feel free to disagree about Bryan, just realize you are in a distinct,almost nonexistent minority.
 
#93 ·
it is illuminating to see the dearth of knowledge exhibited by some posters here. Bryan's moveset is much larger than what he is constrained to do by WWE. Ask Seth Rollins what he thinks about Bryan. He called him Picasso in the ring. I imagine that makes Roman a finger painter. Ask Cesaro. he respects Bryan immensely. The appellation BEST IN THE WORLD was conferred to him by fans in ROH and the boys in the back. Now that title is entirely subjective but Almost everyone, except some dregs here,agrees he is one of the absolute best in the world. Hell, even with his limited WWE moveset, he evokes much louder reactions than the other performers because he goes at an all out,exciting pace. There isnt time for the lengthy rest holds that so many other employ. Feel free to disagree about Bryan, just realize you are in a distinct,almost nonexistent minority.
How long are Bryan marks going to cling to his ROH days lol. We are talking about right now.
So are we judging current Bryan on what he doesn't do anymore?

Might as well start judging Randy on his Legend Killer days, Bray on his Husky Harris days and Ziggler on his spirit squad days. At least they were in WWE.

Still the same guy who blows away your favorite wrestlers in crowd response from the fans because of his moves.

Your posts need to be in a different font. Is there anyway to make them seem as if they were written in crayon?, that would be very apropos.
As if crowd response = better in ring. Making Neckbeard 40 Year Old Virgin Basement Dwellers pop isn't something to be proud of

 
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#8 ·
We haven't even seen Bryan as a champion, we saw it for 2 or 3 weeks.

He was still looking like the underdog to Kane and when your so over as a babyface no matter who you face your gonna be cheered.

Any heelish traits shown towards Bryan could be seen as him going against the odds, the whole "underdog" tag would get repetitive but the way I see is there are so many amazing feuds ahead if he ever became champion again.

Too bad I don't think he will. fpalm
 
#45 · (Edited)
I dont get some of these Bryan haters they say Bryan had his moment but fail to mention that guys like Hogan Cena Macho Man Bret Hart Stone Cold The Rock etc headlined more than one wrestlemania but lets forget that so you can suit your own agenda.

These are the same people that say let Roman have his moment now and want him to headline next year again with The Rock SMFH cut the crap already. Tell me then whats so wrong for Bryan marks wanting to see Bryan vs Brock if you guys basically want Reigns vs The Rock next year?
 
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#66 ·
Why didn't Cena deserve it? Has he not built a brand worth hundreds of millions of dollars for the company? That's like saying Bc Hogan or Austin werent the best workers, they didn't deserve to be the face of the company despite earning a fortune. I'm no Cena mark at all, but by that standard, then right now Tyson Kidd should be amongst the top stars Bc he's as good a worker as anyone in the company. Like him or not, Cena's been a great rep for WWE in a lot of differnt ways, and I'm sure when he's done, and we youtube some of his best stuff in the mic and in big matches, he may never be the best of all time, but we'll all appreciate him more
 
#91 ·
Guess it's not impossible, but the idea that Bryan can go into a feud w a Brock, Reigns, or anyone of the sort, as a favorite, booked strong, and beating them for weeks in a row heading to a PPV, while they are demoralized, unsure if that can beat him is a bit farfetched right?
 
#85 ·
Give him a long title reign and have him feud with some up and comers. Because he can put on incredible matches with anybody it would only elevate the people he feuded with.

Have him feud with Rollins, Cesaro, Ziggler, doesn't matter if they are face or heel. Bryan as champ is best for business.

But WWE doesn't do what's best for business because Vince so fuck it.
 
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Remember when The Rock became champion in 2000 and got an extended title reign where he helped get Benoit and Angle over as well as work alongside and against HHH, Undertaker, Kane, and Jericho? Or how about when Bret Hart would be champion and he would have good matches with anyone and everyone and put guys like 123 Kid and Hakushi over even when they lost? That's how I would imagine a Daniel Bryan title reign. And that's why we need it. Daniel Bryan is a guy that has shown before with the likes of Miz, The Shield, and The Wyatt Family that he can get himself and his opposition over. That's the best kind of champion.
 
#104 ·
In my scenario, Bryan is the face of the company. (Can I dream?)

Hypothetically, if Bryan won the rumble and went on WM to defeat Brock, then he would feud with Rollins next for 2-3 months. The Authority can taunt Bryan about Rollins cashing in. Do a normal match. Do a ladder match. Do a cage match. Have Bryan win and defend all matches. Then, Bryan can take on Rusev at SS. Title vs streak. Bryan makes Rusev tap and ends his streak. Everyone is cheering but Bryan is almost dead. He doesnt get up. Rollins comes running out with the briefcase. DING DING DING. Bryan is getting up. Bryan is on his knees. CURBSTOMP! 1-2-3! Rollins wins the title at SS and The Authority stands tall.

Okay, Rusev's streak is over. Wah wah he's buried. No, he's not because now he can go after Bryan and Rollins and the title. Rusev destroys Bryan in the rematch. Make it a submission match. Then, Rusev goes after Rollins and the title. Rollins turns face because The Authority doesnt have faith in him. They feel Rusev is the stronger man. This feud sets up the rest of 2015. And thats 1 year of fantastic main event material. WWE FUCKIN MORONS.
 
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#105 ·
But you don't find anything Cena-ish about Bryan going over everyone for so long? Already went over HHH, Kane, Show numerous times. Now let's put him over the biggest, baddest, strongest booked legit monster in years Brock, then rollins, then rollins again, then Rollins AGAIN. Then the Superhuman, never been beaten, 300 lb Rusev? That's dangerous territory. It's bound to get stale and its a real reach for him to constantly beat mister after monster. And what would be the point of having Rusevs year long streak to down, just to have him win right after?
 
#116 ·
The reason people want Bryan over Reigns is BRYAN NEVER HAD A PROPER FUCKING TITLE REIGN LAST YEAR. I'm tired of certain people saying "He had his moment". Yeah, but when you finally win the title you're supposed to have an actual title reign and not one that lasts a month or less.
 
#119 ·
Granted, he obviously didnt have a long illustrious run w the belt. Which was nobodies fault Bc he was injured. But...I personally think the chase, the months he put in constantly overcoming the evil authority, and the build up, did as much for him as any title run could have. He got over on a huge level due to average people like us pulling for him to win. That was the story, and it was awesome. I think him winning the title at Mania was the climax. And it was a great climax. But tell me how much higher you think he could have gotten w a long run, than THAT moment? Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see it, and I think had he had a run, it may have come off a bit disappointing to a lot of us Bc it was set up to fall short of that moment. Is that fair? Or totally out of the question?
 
#4 · (Edited)
Lose the title at MITB or Summerslam to Rollins/Ziggler/Bray/Ambrose.
Wrestlemania XIV-Triple H's first reign saw the rise of wrestlers capturing titles for the first time (save Mania XV and Undertaker's reign). We need a period where we get first time champs crowned. No more Cena/Sheamus/Orton.
 
#25 ·
Then let's hear it man. That's the point of the thread. Nobodies saying he doesn't have something about him people love. But that doesn't change the fact that he'll still always be 5'9" and 180lbs and generally things will always resort in the end to him being the smaller guy trying to overcome someone bigger and stronger. Can you ever see him being a favorite to win in any program? That to me just seems like a recipe for another Cena-esque run where he's comstantly overcoming insurmountable odds to win. And don't get me wrong Bc I like him a lot. Along w Seth and Bray, I think he's amongst my favorites. But I could see the story getting stale over time, the same as ANY wrestling storyline gets if used too many times
 
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