Much in the same way that Vince doesn't recognise talent in smaller wrestlers, I usually see the same level of discrimination towards bigger guys on here. Namely guys like Rusev, Mark Henry, Big Show, Roman, etc. Big Zeke used to cop it a lot on here in the past.
Generally, it seems that only flashy or technical wrestlers get props on here whilst monster or brawler type wrestlers get overwhelming amounts of negativity. But I'd argue that bigger guys have it just as hard as smaller guys in the ring, and that a good monster (Mark Henry) can be just as entertaining in the ring as a good technical wrestler (Daniel Bryan).
I think the IWC has a hard-on for talent. Talent is highly correlated with smaller guys because they aren't as stiff, can move around more easily, and are more flexible to perform more moves. Clearly, Brock, Viagra for Vince, is highly regarded because he is very talented. Same for the Undertaker.
It has nothing to do with size, it has to do with talent. The IWC likes talented and entertaining performers, not boring ass gorilla's like Roman Reigns.. People on here praise guys like Rusev and Mark Henry all the time.
I call bull. If there was 5 Brock Lesnars, that would be ideal. Perfect wrestler. But there isn't. Vince likes big guys, talented or not. We like talented guys, period. Brock is rare, one of a kind.
We want guys that can own a character, work a set style (doesn't have to be technical), and guys that can last in a 20 minute match without needing to lay in a corner for 5 minutes at a time.
It's not about size to the "IWC"... as someone said, it's the talent itself. We simply have a hard on for WRESTLERS.
Hey, Ryback actually enjoys wrestling and its fans, and is so dedicated to his job he spends a lot of his free time watching wrestling matches so he can learn more.
However, he seems to only watch Goldberg's matches. unk2
HAHA you just said Big Show, Rusev, and Mark Henry were big guys just like Roman?! HAHA how is it that trick photography and Roman's garter belt and sex appeal can actually fool little girls into thinking he's some huge monster?!
Roman is barely bigger than Bryan. I saw him stand next to Rock a few night ago and he looked like a midget. Next to Brock or those other guys you mentioned? Cuhmon! Are you blind? I don't want to talk shit to blind people, so if you don't have eyes and are just going by height and weight releases from the WWE, then I can't blame you. Otherwise, you're delusional. Without his tummytucking garter belt, you can tell he's pretty average sized
Nah. Just look at this forum and guys like Harper, Rowan, Cesaro, Brock, Rusev, and Henry (at least in the past) routinely get praised. It's about talent. If you have it, you will get praised, whether you're 5'9" or 6'9". And that's the way it should be.
Bigger guys do get a rough deal. The automatic assumption for most people until proven otherwise is that bigger guys can't work, while smaller guys can. Harper and Cesaro have a following from their indy days. A guy like Rowan doesn't, and people talk about how he's a 'poor worker' when in reality he's on a similar level to someone like Barrett based on their work in WWE. Hell, I think Rusev is one of the best in the company right now but he doesn't ever get any praise.
Bigger guys do get a rough deal. The automatic assumption for most people until proven otherwise is that bigger guys can't work, while smaller guys can. Harper and Cesaro have a following from their indy days. A guy like Rowan doesn't, and people talk about how he's a 'poor worker' when in reality he's on a similar level to someone like Barrett based on their work in WWE. Hell, I think Rusev is one of the best in the company right now but he doesn't ever get any praise.
Like others have said, "IWC" likes wrestlers with talent. I like promos and charisma, but I watch pro wrestling for storytelling and entertainment through ring work. Reigns just doesn't do anything for me as of yet, he still has time to improve. However, just because a wrestler is big, doesn't mean we will boo and hate them. Mark Henry, Rusev, Luke Harper, and Bray Wyatt are all well liked here and they are big yet talented. Also can't forget Brock Lesnar, who is probably physically the best pro wrestler build ever. If he had great promo skills, he'd be untouchable in all areas of wrestling.
Totally. Everybody downplays the talent some of the big guys have because there are a bunch of midgets running around that worked so hard in high school gymnasiums doing a bunch of flippy-doos for neckbearded 20-year-olds. People like Sheamus, who is arguably the best brawler in the company, are completely overlooked on their ring work. Jack Swagger can probably wrestle circles around half of the 5'2 indy folk down in developmental, but he's nearly 7 feet tall so he's just a geek.
I wouldn't say he's an idiot, he just made a very generalized statement. But I do agree, well, IWC is outdated and useless term but I see what they're saying.... Owens, Harper, etc are good workers. I was a fan o Vader back in the day even. Also, honestly, Cesaro, Rollins, Ambrose, etc are not small guys.
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