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Ambrose/Wyatt is example of why WWE shouldn't listen to IWC

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#1 · (Edited)
Because nothing is ever enough.

Give fresh talent a chance without the Cena crutch. Checked.
Focus on a feud without a belt. Checked.
Allowing fresher talent to close a PPV. Checked.
Allowed feud to develop on the Smackdown to give pro-brand split idiots their say and also to allow the wrestlers more room for errors. Checked

Still get shit on because one of the two had to lose.

EDIT: I'm not talking about the specific feud so stop bringing up nobody asked for the feud. Talking about the things this feud represented and still got shit on. Thank you.
 
#4 ·
Start feud without blowing off the old one... check.
Give a weak reason that makes no sense... check.
Have two guys that haven't been built properly feud.. check.
Have one lose when neither can afford a loss... check.
Endless gimmick matches that kill any logic in a feud... check.

ANd that is without going back before it and checking off Cena killing Wyatt's momentum or Ambrose never given a leg up at any point. So what were you trying to argue again? I mean. don't listen to the IWC because the WWE booking shit the bed again? Okkkaaayyy.. I guess if you want the WWE to continue sucking then by all means, let them continue booking like Ambrose/Wyatt.
 
#11 ·
So you would prefer Ambrose lose cleanly to Rollins?
Pipebomb Punk/Cena had a weak reason too that makes no sense to viewers that didn't care about backstage stuff.
Nexus/Shield weren't built at all and feuded with random people too.
Why can't either afford a loss? If that is the case then nobody new can ever lose.
Maybe because both wrestlers aren't really that good so they needed gimmick matches?

Cena killing momentum again? Lol. I guess Cena is still killing Miz's momentum. I am arguing that WWE has given what IWC has wanted all these years in a secondary feud and yet it still get shitted on. Shows me that nothing they do will ever be enough so WWE might as well cater to those who actually enjoy watching wrestling.
 
#3 ·
The problem isn't the feud, the problem is that it was too early to do the feud; their attempts to protect both guys (who both needed the win) have only resulted in craptacular booking and making both guys look horrible.
 
#17 ·
I agree that it was probably too early to execute the feud, but Ambrose needed something to distract him from Rollins for the time being. Look at it this way: Ambrose wasn't gonna rest until Rollins' either failed a cash-in in a way that caused him to lose the briefcase, or until the briefcase expired. But given they want to keep the case on Rollins for longer and probably even want him to cash-in with it successfully at some point, Ambrose needed his attention drawn to something else so that he and Rollins could continue onto their own separate programs without just arbitrary dropping the bad blood they had with one another. Enter Bray Wyatt.
 
#98 ·
The WWE knew exactly what they were doing with the Ambrose/Wyatt feud. Killing the interest for both to get them out of the way of "DA LOOK", duh.

Serious answer, whether the feud (or the premise of the feud, yes I can read and comprehend FriedTofu, may want to try it yourself sometime) was what "The IWC" wanted, does not change the fact that the feud has been poorly written/booked from the beginning to where it currently stands, and I would place very little (to none) of the blame on Ambrose or Wyatt personally, they are doing their best with the crap script they have to work with.
 
#6 ·
I still want to know how the OP thinks the feud has been anywhere near good to begin with let alone the weird assumption of what the "IWC" has wanted.

Though by now, the moment you see "you IWC types" or "the IWC" you can pretty much count on the post not having much substance to it.
 
#66 ·
Do you think stars like Rock, Ausin, HHH, Taker; would have been established by having a zero storyline feud end by an exploding TV or by hitting each other with a fucking christmas tree?

Get a grip OP, this isn't about the IWC, its common sense.
If you want to build new stars, do it the right fucking way or don't bother at all.
 
#69 ·
The christmas tree stuff was because it was a christmas themed Raw. As for zero storyline feud how deep was Shield vs anyone last year really? Exploding TV was a gimicky finish to a gimmick match. Wasn't the best but they needed something extra after a whole PPV of tables, ladders and chairs. Maybe they were booked to a spot but the finish was to differentiate them from the other matches on the night.

And I believe Cena, Y2J and Jeff Hardy were established one way or another with the same random BS.
 
#83 ·
Well of course this feud is shit and should never have been booked at this point in the first place when both guys needed wins to re-establish their credibility. I've been saying this from the start.


But lets not act like nobody wanted this. I remember clearly MOST of the posters talking about how Ambrose should move on to Bray and feud with him coz "DA PROMOS MAN" and coz both are crazy. Now that WWE's done what they're good at doing and made both guys look worse there are people saying they never wanted this feud in the first place. Never change WF :hayden3


So basically, WWE ruined the finish to what could have been a great feud between Ambrose and Rollins, only to follow it up with this crap. Holograms, dad in prison, exploding TV, Christmas streetfight :lmao :maury
 
#95 ·
The responses to this godawful thread make me proud. This forum gets a bad rap a lot of the time but for every "why does IWC want nothing but headlocks with no backstory" there are dozens of intelligent responses ripping that question to shits.

It's always nice to see other people fed up with the same stuff you are! It'd be interesting to know when "the IWC" dropped the "the" - every time I've read an embarrassing cringeworthy post about "IWC" it's been just "IWC". God if I never heard that stupid term again it'd...well it'd be quite nice.
 
#44 ·
I don't recall anyone asking for Ambrose/Wyatt. Both men needed a win in the feud column. Ambrose coming of losing to Rollins and Wyatt coming off losing to Cena.

They're both great talkers and great wrestlers, but they had no story. They were just thrown on TV in a feud with no purpose or direction. Just a bunch of matches. Wyatt's explanations on why he attached Dean made no sense.

WWE put very little effort and expected something awesome. If you would have given these two guys free range, told them to come up with a storyline themselves, they'd probably deliver.

Creative is the problem, the same problem the company has had for more than a decade now.
 
#62 ·
What baffles me is how stupid they were in their booking of the Ambrose/Rollins FOTY.

It made a sense, originally, when Seth went over Dean. That way, he was still that undefeated asshole parading everywhere and trash-talking everyone. It was setting him up for something greater, rather than jobbing him outright, it was building momentum to make the first face win against him much more memorable.

And then, they... They started giving cleans wins to Cena and Reigns over him, on random shows. For no FREAKING REASON whatsoever. If they were going to job his heel momentum anyway, why didn't they do so with Ambrose ? He needed it so much more than those two, especially since the feud was awesome and very personal.

Ambrose/Bray is a trainwreck, booking is horrendous, both are looking awful. Meanwhile, the guy who could've elevated Ambrose is being PINNED CLEAN IN A TAG-TEAM MATCH WHILE BIG SHOW (who's clearly a glorified jobber nowadays) COULD'VE TAKEN IT. This is insane.

Seriously, fuck off already Vince.
 
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