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Official Match/DVD/Show Discussion Thread - Tradition Continues & Bobby Eaton

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#1 ·
Reboot initiated. Appropriate PPV tagline, tbhayley. Point for you if you can guess it.

Previous thread: The Big Bang

THE CAL SCALE

NO = -1
DUD-* = 0
*1/4-** = 0.5
**1/4-**3/4 = 1
***-***1/4 = 2
***1/2 = 3
***3/4 = 4
**** = 5
****1/4 = 6
****1/2 = 7
****3/4 = 8
***** = 9
As always, watch MENG, Evil Doink, & The Undertaker goodies on the regular. And you know what, Bobby Eaton ffs. Lets nip this in the bud and get everyone to worship immediately.
 
#8,387 ·
That All Japan list is still missing a good few things. Kawada/Kobashi 3/20/92, Misawa/Kobashi 3/31/96, couple Vader matches in 1999. Not sure it's even poissible to gather all of the worth-a-watch stuff from 90s AJ in one place, but there's another list here-

http://www.otherarena.com/z_jdw/ajpwlist.htm

Based on Dave Meltzer's ratings, but ignore that if you want to.
 
#8,452 ·
Ambrose/Rollins was the best match I've ever seen live in person. Being the Ambrose mark I am, I lost it when he won. Amazing.

Same with Zayn's debut. Fucking nuts.

What a show. Best Raw I've ever been to. :mark: Ambrose!!! :mark:
 
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#8,480 ·
Corgan just bought a bunch of old school pro wrestling stuff from some guy in Chicago. Not sure if there is any connection here or not. Corgan did mention Angelo Poffo and Verne Gagne in the tweet about it. Who knows.

Right on. I will have to check these out.
 
#8,483 · (Edited)
BACKLASH 2007

World Tag Team Championship match
The Hardy Boyz (c) vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch
***¾ – Great friggin' tag match right here. At one point, I jokingly thought to myself, "Is this the Hardys' best non-ladder match or what?" In retrospect, that's probably a question that deserved to be asked in seriousness.

WWE Women's Championship match
Melina (c) vs. Mickie James
*** – This is probably about as good as women's wrestling got in the post-Trish-and-Lita, pre-A.J.-and-NXT world, and that's not a backhanded compliment.

United States Championship match
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Montel Vontavius Porter
***½ – Not gonna lie: As much as I still love Benoit's work, it's kind of disconcerting hearing him get a hometown hero's welcome in Atlanta just a few months before the end. The match, however, is really good, an excellent technical affair that cemented MVP as a guy who could hang with the Benoits of the world, and the real deal as a crafty veteran he couldn't quite overcome yet.

ECW Championship handicap match
Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Umaga, Vince McMahon, & Shane McMahon
DUD – Just kidding. I didn't even watch it, and I feel 100% okay with that decision.

Last Man Standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship
The Undertaker (c) vs. Batista
**** – Awesome stuff here. Same snowflakes as the WrestleMania match, though I probably rank this one a little bit behind it; as appropriate as the non-finish feels, I still feel the need to take marks off for it. Still love the match, though, especially the way it puts both guys over as absolute beasts by having them not resort, until the end, to anything more "extreme" than they did at Mania. They take a match usually defined by chaos and plunder, and work it with nothing but their trademark power offense delivered with extra viciousness. It's marvelous.

Fatal Four-Way match for the WWE Championship
John Cena (c) vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Edge vs. Randy Orton
****¼ – Y'know, I talk a lot about how much I dislike non-elimination multi-man matches like this in theory, but in practice, I almost always think that when WWE makes a real creative investment in one, it pays off, and this is probably the best one I've ever seen. Everybody works hard to put over how much they want the title (with Michaels the MVP in that category), and there are some great spots and a creative finish. I don't ask for much more than that when I go into a match I'm predisposed to not like, and this one greatly surpassed the expectations that I'm starting to think I should reevaluate.

I bought this DVD on Amazon because it was only 99 cents, and I was tired of trying and failing to find a decent-quality cap of Taker/Batista online. I think it's safe to say I got many times my money's worth. Great, great show.
 
#8,515 ·
Glad to see I'm not the only one that has that Rey/Lesnar match at MOTYC status. Take a step back and think about how difficult of a task it is to make Rey look like a threat against Lesnar. And those two guys manufactured a match that erased any doubts regarding that match-up. In fact, the match was so good that I cheered for Hardcore feaking Holly when he came out of the crowd to save Mysterio.

Smackdown on paper looks weak, but it wasn't a bad show. This Barrett/Sheamus/Neville/Ziggler program is what I want in a midcard feud: good matches, good promos, reason behind everything going on (except for maybe the Kiss My Arse stipulation), a crowd that responds to the feud, and everybody benefiting from working with each other. All that's missing is the IC Title.

And then the tag team program is going just as well thanks to this double turn. The New Day are perfect in their current role and it's even showcasing itself in their matches. Kofi's forced excitement works so well when we are supposed to hate him, and Xavier Woods has bucketloads of charisma. Go watch the Ryback/Cesaro/Kidd vs. New Day match.

Also intrigued by some other smaller parts of the show such as the Wyatt Family reunion, a possible Rusev/Lana scheme to trick Cena, and the Lucha Dragons. The main event though was loads of fun and it shows why Rollins can make such a good champion when given the chance. The man commanded that contract signing segment and had some nice one-liners. And then the way the brawl occurred actually made sense and didn't insult our intelligence. Best of all, Rollins stood tall because of his own doing. This is the kind of main event that Smackdown needs.
 
#8,517 ·
Thought Smackdown was great.

Once Bryan returns an IC title scene consisting of Bryan/Neville/Ziggler/Barrett/Sheamus could be great. All those guys seem to have chemistry with each other.

New Day are actually awesome, 6 man on Smackdown was great, would go as high as ***1/2 for it.

Really looking forward to the Payback main event.
 
#8,537 ·


No Way Out 2008

The #1 Ramble was No Mercy 2008. The #101 Ramble is the beginning of the rest of 2008! I'm shocked I've made it this far haha.

Fake It by Seether is the PPV theme, and probably the only Seether song I've ever liked.


CM Punk Vs Chavo Guerrero - ECW Championship Match

Urgh, not a good way to start off the show. Chavo. Fuck off.

Ain't even gonna attempt to watch this.

Rating: NO
CAL SCALE - -1


MIKE ADAMLE INTERVIEW~! I hope he botches something :mark:.

HOW DID IT HAPPER? He botched!!! :mark:

Floyd Mayweather shows up. :mark: I forgot this was the PPV with THAT angle :mark:.


The Undertaker Vs Batista Vs Finlay Vs Big Daddy V Vs The Great Khali Vs MVP - World Heavyweight Championship #1 Contenders Elimination Chamber Match

:mark: a match involving Undertaker, FINLAY and Batista :mark:. Shame Khali and MVP bring it down. I like DBV though :).

:mark: Undertaker and Batista kick this match off, as they add another chapter to their year long rivalry :mark:.

2 big bastards beating the fuck out of each other. RASSLIN' don't get much better than thiUs!

:mark: Undertaker is destroying Big Dave. Punching his face in, kicking his knees to shit, and occasionally standing on his throat. GOAT.

It's time for another superstar to enter the match and it's THE GREAT KHA... no wait it's Big Daddy V. Someone apparently can't operate a fecking LIGHT properly :lmao. YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!

Big Daddy V is yet another big bastard looking to beat the fuck out of the two big bastards already in the ring :mark:. Why couldn't this just be a 4 way? Take out Khali and MVP and this would be fucking epic.

I used to have legitimate NIGHTMARES about Big Daddy V, back when he was Viscera. I would be running away from him at the warehouse I worked in at the time, and he was chasing me down and would eventually corner me to suffocate me to death with his FAT lol. I think it's because I'm a little claustrophobic lol.

UNDERTAKER JUST SENT THROUGH THE DOOR AND TO THE FLOOR~! Wonder if that was supposed to happen lol.

BDV is fucking DOMINATING both Undertaker and Batista. That's impressive :mark:.

Speaking of impressive... SPINEBUSTER TO BIG DADDY V~!

DDT ON THE STEEL FLOOR BY UNDERTAKER~! Big Daddy V is DEAD, and Batista steals the pin, eliminating the widest man in the match!!! Bah.

Just as he's gone, we get stuck with The Great Khali of all fucking people. We went from a super fun FATTY to a giant useless twat. I swear he botches a fucking CHOP less than 30 seconds into the match.

YOU CAN'T WRESTLE chants :lmao.

KHALI BOMB~!

UNDERTAKER KICKS OUT!!!

Khali tries to pull a MOUNTAIN by squashing Batista's head with his bare hands, but Khali ain't no Strongman and he fails miserably.

OMG IT'S THAT SUBMISSION MANOEUVRE~!

Which submussion manoeuvre?

THAT SUBMISSION MANOEUVRE~!

Khali taps out! Yes! Yes! YES! YES!

FINLAY TIME :mark:.

He comes charging out of the pod and... runs right into a high knee from Undertaker :lmao.

A second running high knee sends Undertaker crashing and burning into the corner though! CELTIC CROSS~! But the DEAD MAN kicks out and continues on his quest to become the number 1 contender for the WHC at WM!!!

Can we just keep MVP locked in the pod? Not like anyone thought he would win lol. We currently have UNDERTAKER Vs FINLAY Vs BATISTA. We don't need nobody else!

Finlay is mauling the Dead Man! And it's fucking awesome, because both guys are awesome. AWESOME. Did I mention awesome? No? Because like, it is. And they are. AWESOME.

Undertaker gets smashed through one of the pods :mark:. Man, Undertaker has taken one hell of a fucking beating in this match so far! And he's still on his feet fighting back!

Ha, MVP seems to be trying to take my advice by staying in his pod :lmao. But Undertaker breaks in and rapes his face. With his fist. :)

THERE'S THAT KICK!!! What kick? THAT KICK! Well, this match is full of moves with no names!

I believe it's called the drive by though. And I'm not sure, but I does believe it had that name for some time BEFORE this event. LOL.

BLOOD~! No PG shit here! Undertaker is bleeding from the head, and keeps demanding that MVP punch him in the face! MVP realises that his punches aren't worth shit, and tries to escape by climbing on top of a pod. Big mistake. CHOKESLAM FROM THE POD~! Finlay steals the pin and MVP is GONE :mark:.

Back to an epic triple threat :mark:. Also, Undertaker is technically responsible for eliminating EVERYONE so far. His DDT to BDV allowed Batista to pin him. He tapped out Khali. And then the chokeslam allowed Finlay to eliminate MVP.

:lmao Hornswoggle's head shows up from a small gap in one of the corners, hands Finlay the Sheleighly and... Finlay ends up with a chokeslam on the steel :lmao. Undertaker with ANOTHER elimination!!!

Down to the final 2, and its back to where we started; Undertaker Vs Batista :mark:. God I love simple shit like this, when they work off a previous feud. They battled through 2007, Edge ended up getting involved and stealing the title from them both, and now to gain a shot at Edge for the belt they have to go through each other again :mark:.

Crowd are super into this whole thing :mark:.

BATISTA BOMB~!

Batista is heading to WM!!!

1...

2...

KICK OUT!!! KICK OUT! BAH GAWD THE UNDERTAKER KICKED OUT~!

*sigh* Obvious corner Last Ride set up. Thankfully that isn't the finish :p.

The ACTUAL finish is fucking :mark:



The Undertaker fucking OWNED this match. Either personally eliminating people or performing the move that would get someone eliminated. He's going to WM and it's more than deserved!!!

Awesome chamber match. Not even MVP or Khali could stop it being awesome!!!

Rating: ****1/4
CAL SCALE - 6


Teddy Long bans the EDGEHEADS from ringside tonight. Whatever.

Some weird Baywatch parody with Kelly Kelly and a fat guy. In the end Mae Young makes out with him instead. This was to advertise WM. I don't get it.

And then a video showing Maria and Ashley at a Playboy party. Ashley is trying to convince Maria to pose for Playboy. Times sure have changed lol.


Ric Flair Vs Mr Kennedy - Career Threatening Match

If Flair loses, he must retire! A month before WM. Because that's totally what would happen :p.

Kennedy does Flair's strut. Not the first time he's impersonated a professional wrestler 8*D.

Flair has a bad wheel coming into this match, so Kennedy focuses on that, which is smart. FIGURE FOUR LEG LOCK AROUND THE RING POST~! Always love that version of the move :mark:. Even when Kennedy does it.

Kennedy is... well he's just there when it comes to offence. Basic leg work mainly. But Flair is awesome :mark:. At one point, in a normal Figure Four, he's screaming in pain and biting his fucking HANDS to take his mind off his leg pain. Flair showing that even a month away from "retirement", he's still a billion times better than Kennedy!

Figure Four on Kennedy, and Flair keeps his career for a little while longer.

This isn't awful... it's just... a TV opener match at best, not something that should be on PPV.

Rating: **
CAL SCALE - 0.5


Edge Vs Rey Mysterio - World Heavyweight Championship Match

A rematch from the RR. And this time Rey is injured. Yey...

Floyd Mayweather is at ringside. Was he a cunt back then too? Always a cocky bastard yeah, but he beats his wife now too, right? Urgh. No wonder the fans were behind THE BIG SHOW at WM.

Rey is trying to keep his injured arm away from Edge, while someone building some offense. What's worse is that it's his RIGHT arm that's fucked.

It isn't long before Mysterio gets caught and goes arm first into the steel steps. Ah well, you tried, Rey :p.

Nothing much happens, and then they repeat the finish from the RR. Yawn. Might have been fun had Rey not been injured.

Rating: 1/2*
CAL SCALE - 0


Thankfully though, the AFTERMATH of this match is fucking :mark:. THE BIG SHOW RETURNS! AND HE'S SLIMMED DOWN!!! He acts like a good guy and then... tries to kill Rey :lmao.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER GETS IN THE RING. HE PUNCHES THE SHIT OUT OF BIG SHOW!!! BIG SHOW IS BLEEDING AND CHASES AFTER FLOYD, WHO IS LITERALLY RUNNING FOR HIS FUCKING LIFE :lmao.

This was a tremendous, awesome segment, and set up one hell of a super fun match at WM :mark:.




Randy Orton Vs John Cena - WWE Championship Match

:mark:.

Yes, I didn't put that in by mistake. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A CENA VS ORTON MATCH!!! :mark:

So, some backstory on this match. Cena and Orton were feuding from SummerSlam onwards in 2007. Cena got injured. In his absence, Orton won the title. Cena returned (very) early at the RR and won. And he ain't gonna wait for WM... he wants Orton NOW! Sorry, he wants Orton at NWO!!! :p

Cena is back and wants his title. While Orton NEEDS to beat Cena. He is the champion, but he didn't win it by beating Cena. He has to beat Cena to prove to HIMSELF that he is the better man.

Early on, Cena keeps going for quick pins, seemingly to mess with Orton psychologically. He knows that Orton is determined to BEAT HIM here tonight, and every time Cena gets a 2 count, he's telling Orton that he's only 1 away from LOSING to him instead.

Nice to see Orton and Cena wrestle and the fans being vocal about the match but in a POSITIVE way lol.

Orton takes a while to really get going, but when he does, he's vicious as fuck :mark:.

However, no matter how VICIOUS Orton seems to be, Cena just won't stay down. They end up battling on the floor, and nearly get counted out!

:lmao at Orton's face after the both charge into the ring to break the 9 count. He looks like he's thinking "WHAT THE FUCK, JOHN? YOU NEARLY GOT COUNTED OUT. I WANT TO BEAT YOU PROPERLY YOU FUCK" :p.

Again, Orton regains control, but Cena is like the fucking TERMINATOR. STFU, and Orton barely makes it to the ropes. It's here when he realises that perhaps he CAN'T beat Cena, and demands the referee counts him out! Cena comes out to see what the fuck is happening and... walks into an RKO OUT OF NOWHERE!!!

Orton looks pleased with himself, almost like it was his plan all along. Ok, so he wasn't able to keep Cena down for a pin or make him submit, but maybe he can still BEAT Cena via countout!

The ref gets to 9... and Cena makes it back in!!!

And then it happens. One of the greatest DQ endings of ALL TIME. Orton smiles at Cena, then SLAPS THE REFEREE!!! He is DQ'd, and technically loses the match, but fuck it, he's STILL THE CHAMPION!!!

Love the fuck out of this match still. It isn't a wrestling holds clinic, but it has a wonderful story that keeps evolving as the match goes on, and the finish is fucking perfect. :mark:

Rating: ****
CAL SCALE - 5


Triple H Vs Shawn Michaels Vs Chris Jericho Vs JBL Vs Umaga Vs Jeff Hardy - WWE Championship #1 Contenders Elimination Chamber Match

HBK and Jericho start this match off. The first chamber match tonight started off with 2 men who had just feuded for the better part of the previous year. This time it's starting with 2 people who would go on to feud for the better part of the current year!!!

Sweet counter to the elbow drop by Jericho, who gets his knees up, forcing HBK to smash his elbows into Jericho's knees! In reality though, Jericho's knees would also be fucked :p.

YOUMANGA is the first man to be released from his pod!

DOUBLE SAMOAN DROP~!

HBK is bleeding and... I have NO IDEA when it happened :lmao.

WALLS OF JERICHO AND CROSSFACE APPLIED TO UMAGA AT THE SAME TIME~!

JBL comes in and throws some nice punches.

HHH is out next. Man, this match so far has NOTHING on the first one. I'm finding bugger all to write about lol.

Umaga gets thrown head first into the steel post! Clothesline from Hell to HHH! Code Breaker to JBL, and he is the first to be eliminated! Most exciting part of the match so far :p.

JBL is PISSED that he lost, and returns to the ring with a steel chair and murders everyone!!!

Yey now everyone is bleeding and hurt and very slowly trying to stand up. THAT'LL MAKE THINGS INTERESTING.

Hardy is the final man to be released from his POD~! Maybe he can add some excitement to this one.

He spends about 30 seconds of the first minute he's in the match in the air! He's flying around all over the place, until Umaga kicks his fucking head off :mark:.

BLACK HOLE SLAM FROM THE MONSTER ABY... UMAGA!

UMAGA SMASHED JERICHO THROUGH A POD WITH HIS ARSE~!

SUPERKICK TO UMAGA! CODE BREAKER! PEDIGREE! SWANTON BOMB FROM THE TOP OF A POD! UMAGA IS ELIMINATED~!

SUPERKICK TO JERICHO! JERICHO IS ELIMINATED~!

TWIST OF FATE TO HBK! PEDIGREE! HBK IS ELIMINATED~!

Lol, most fun part of this match has been 3 eliminations in a row within like a minute :lmao.

Hardy misses a Swanton and gets Pedigreed, and THE GAME is going to WM... NO!!! HARDY KICKED OUT! HARDY KICKED OUT!!! I HONESTLY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE FINISH!!!

Twist of Fate gets reversed and Hardy gets smashed back first onto the steel chair, then gets Pedigreed on it!

AND NOW HHH GOES TO WM!

Meh. Not too bothered about this match. I remember it being better. But honestly it was kinda dull outside of the eliminations that mostly happened all at once.

Rating: ***
CAL SCALE - 2



Overall CAL SCALE - 12.5
 
#8,569 ·
Curt Hennig vs. Stan Hansen (Las Vegas 5/31/86)

Excellent match here. Hansen starts the match cutting a promo on Jerry Blackwell, who
is also in the ring, then proceeds to beat the shit out of him until Hennig
comes storming in and takes it right to Stan. Curt esp here just gives a fantastic performance IMO.

I really need to watch more of Hennig pre WWF, TBH.
 
#8,657 · (Edited)
New Day/Kidd Cesaro should be good, absolutely loved their ER match. Obviously Cesaro and Kidd are awesome and I'm loving New Day just now. Intrigued by the 2/3 falls stip, think New Day get the win here

Not the biggest fan of Ziggler or Sheamus but it's a midcard feud with a backstory which is something we don't see anywhere near enough of, expect Sheamus to get the win here

Barrett/Neville could be great, love both guys and they have chemistry, fancy Barrett to get the win here

Couldn't care less about the divas match, can see the Bellas winning since it's mostly heels I can see winning

Wyatt/The Ryback, think I'm the only person who thinks this could be good, feud's sucked but I feel they couldproduce something good

Cena/Rusev needs to end, love them both but their matches are actually getting worse IMO, my hope for this is it's a mindless spotfest because I enjoy those kind of matches and it's the only was I'll have any fun with it, Lana throws in the towel cementing her face turn

Cannot wait for the 4 way, anything with Ambrose in the main event gets a thumbs up from me, looking forward to the inevitable tease for a Shield reunion and hopefully triple powerbomb on Orton, Rollins is winning but I think Reigns takes the fall not Ambrose leading to Reigns turning on Ambrose for not having his back
 
#8,698 · (Edited)
Uh, remember probably the best match in WWE history? It was a submission/I Quit match between Austin and Bret Hart at WM 13. Same EXACT rules as an I Quit match, hell it was an I Quit match just with no microphone. What happens? Austin passes out in a pool of blood, never submits, loses the match, but becomes a hero in the process. Probably the most iconic finish to a wresrling match ever, yet WWE just totally ignored it with that finish. What a load of shit.

Every match in the history of wrestling where only a submission or saying " I Quit" is the only way to win, has ended if someone was rendered unconscious. The only one off the top of my head that I can think of that DIDNT was the Styles/Daniels 30 Min Ironman from AAO 2005 (excellent bout btw) and that one didn't end because the time limit expired before the ref could check AJ. Why oh why does WWE insist on insulting everyone's intelligence? Why? It's like they can't help themselves. If you are gonna go so far as to have Rusev render Cena unconscious, just let him win the damn match Jesus Christ.
 
#8,703 ·
So now that I have time, here's a full live report from Payback last night:

- Anyone remember the hype video for the PPV? That was fuckin AWESOME.

- Preshow matches were pretty skippable, but I can't stress to you enough how vocal the crowd was before anything even happened. There were at least 3 New Day Sucks chants prior to 7:30. It got old. haha. Big standout for me on the preshow was Cody Rhodes. Man he looked great in his match with Truth. I remember him front suplexing him on top of the turnbuckle and that looked painful as hell, then he later did a double springboard disaster kick that was beautiful. Plus the slapping with glove. Man, great work from him in a short period of time. Even after the match he looked so depressed sitting outside the ring. #FreeCodyRhodes

- The opener wasn't as good as I was hoping, but it looked hella physical. Like I said earlier, Sheamus is a big fuckin dude. Baltimore was 150% behind Ziggler and I feel like I was the only one rooting for the fella. Some guy yelled that he needed to brush his teeth. :lol Whole place went quiet in awe when Ziggler busted himself open. Thought it was really cool that he stayed on his knee to take the Brogue Kick though. Match probably floated at the *** mark but I've seen more positivity to it. Sheamus didn't seem like he did much on offense other than a headlock.

- The Tag Team Title match was incredible amounts of fun. It was fascinating to watch Cesaro & Kidd work as a team. One of them always seemed to be moving. Kidd was flying everywhere and Cesaro was throwin dudes around left and right. I'm not sure if the camera caught it but while Kidd had the sharpshooter locked in, Cesaro literally threw Big E over the announce table. It was crazy. Xavier was fun to watch on the outside too. Cesaro dropping Big E was hilarious. He just kept going like nothing happened. :p Felt like an easy *** 1/2 in person.

- Ryback vs. Wyatt was my choice for surprise of the night. Crowd was probably 60/40 in favor of Wyatt. All the adult men were with Wyatt obviously. :p You have to witness Wyatt's entrance in person though. They shut all the lights out around the place and still seems fully lit with all the cell phones. It's a sight to behold. Great presence from him and really strong work during their match. Him luring Ryback all the way to the outside when he hit that big clothesline was fuckin sweet. Ryback got a huge pop after that frog splash. Incredibly impressive. Loved the finish and really enjoyed the match. Felt like a ***+ encounter.

- There's a lot to say about Cena/Rusev, so bare with me. Everyone chanted We Want Lana no matter WHAT was happening. Someone was always saying it. :p Being a part of a John Cena entrance is something special too. Such a crazy atmosphere. I took part in the 'John Cena Suuuuucks' chant and the little boy beside me wasn't a fan of that. :lol Rusev grabbing the mic and saying "half this crowd already hates you!" was hilarious and got a huge pop. Thought the match started off slow with Rusev in control and the CONSTANT 'do you wanna quit?' but man it became so enthralling the longer it went. Rusev's performance throughout the whole thing was godly. Constantly scolding Lana, yelling in Russian, kicking Cena's ass, or those hilarious facials he had throughout the match. The AA that Rusev took on the steel steps looked and sounded incredibly painful. I did notice Cena botch some things throughout the whole match and that sucked. He took Rusev's splashes in the corner really awkwardly and botched the fall away slam terribly. Once they went on the outside is when I thought it got really great. The typical barricade spot was predictable here but I think they wanted it to be. The stuff with the fireworks and the laptop were hilarious. They botched the alabama slam but made up for it quickly. Loved the spot with the guardrail. That looked nasty. Rusev turning back the clock to 2007 was a joy for me, even though I knew what was gonna happen from the minute it started. I thought both men did incredible selling jobs throughout the whole 28 minutes. It's a shame the ending was so predictable, but like I said, it was neat that no one really knows what they were saying between each other. Match had an absolutely epic feel in the arena and I really appreciated the work put forth by both guys. Had a ****+ feel for sure, but I'm afraid to watch it again. haha

- I was INCREDIBLY burnt out after the last match, so the next two hardly had my attention. Divas match was solid I guess. Tamina kicked the fuck out of Brie and I don't think she ever came in the match. Naomi had a lot of supporters in the audience. She's doing great right now. Surprised Nikki kicked out of the rear view.

- Neville vs. Barrett was just kinda there. It was short and ended just when it got going. Neville's entrance is cool as fuck. Postmatch stuff was neat. Sent us home happy.

- Oh man, the energy in that place for the main event was CRAZY. People were going nuts just watching the hype video! :lol Orton is in incredible shape. Ambrose is over. Reigns is mega over and/or mega hated. It's fun. Rollins envokes a reaction out of everyone. His theme is fucking awesome. Matches exactly who he is. The match started great, then tapered down quickly. Being in the arena really makes you notice how much laying down is actually done in these 4-ways. Orton was on the ground for at least half of the match. :p The fucking roof blew off the place when they had the mini Shiedl reunion. I literally yelled 'WHAT!?' out loud because it was like they didn't even have to think about it. The Ambrose vs. Reigns portion was wonderful. The last half of the match in general just felt like a car crash of epic proportions. RKO after RKO, a run in here and an announce table there, etc. I didn't really buy into any of the nearfalls because I could see someone coming in to break it up, but it was still great fun. Color me shocked that ORton ate the pin again and that it was THAT easy to pull off. One pedigree did the trick and most people seemed surprised. I've seen a lot of *** 3/4 thrown around and that seems perfect.

- Overall, a seriously good night of wrestling. Crowd was hype all night and everything worked for me. I had a great time and really hope they come back for a PPV next year. (Y)
 
#8,788 ·
Holy shit @ this on paper.

RAW - July 8, 2013
Rollins & Reigns vs. Tons of Funk - ** 3/4 (rock solid tag match that's odd to watch as the Shield gets virtually no reaction)

Also watched the WWE Title Chamber from EC 2012 as it was the only one I'd never seen. Punk vs. Miz vs. Jericho vs. Truth vs. Kofi vs. Ziggler. Thought the first half was good stuff but the Jericho injury angle totally KILLED the flow of the match. Didn't buy into Miz having a chance to win either. *** for it. Really needed some bigger names in there, although they didn't have many at the time. That whole ppv kinda sucked balls, huh?
That tag is like the biggest gem of 2013.

And yeah @ the bold. Only worthwhile thingy is the SD chamber which has its share of neat things pepper throughout.

Don't have a link, but just this second finished watching it on the Network and it DEFINITELY lived up to the hype. The best women's match I've ever seen was Mschif vs Awesome Kong for Shimmer, but this Lynch/Banks match is every bit as good as that one. Amazing limb work, both women sold their asses off every step of the way, the moves and counters were insane, they got a very well deserved standing ovation for that match. This is right up there with Lesnar/Rollins/Cena and Lesnar/Reigns for my current MotY.

Edit: here is a link, the border is annoying though https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ogeAg2WLY


Other parts are in the suggested videos. Essential watch.
 
#8,887 ·
Bit random, but i never realized Liger/Pillman had a match the 1991 G1 Finals. :eek: I only just got my hands on the whole tournament, so if anyone wants the match uploaded, i will. (Its an excellent handheld).

Havn't seen the Superbrawl match in forever, but i did watch the other Handheld match they had in Dec 1991 at Meadowlands, which was also really great.
 
#8,906 ·
Huh. Actually don't believe I've seen this match. I thought it may have been the one w/the senton off the ladder finish, but that is their Barbed Wire match and (then) 100% feud-ender from what started in 2006.

do you want to post your comments where you said the Finlay matches were OK and not "shitty"???? You gave one ***1/4 prick. THREE AND A QUARTER. That ain't shitty in THIS nerd party.


Brock isn't seriously working Kofi is he? I'll take all of this back if you just admit that was a lie.
***1/4 = shitty. Read it here. I need to update the Cal Scale in the OP.

And I really think that's the signed match for now. I don't know what's worse: that it is happening and it is wasted on Kofi or that Kofi is gonna get the greatest slaughter ever & it isn't even being put on TV for me to watch.

As a ginger, the term "caught red handed" sounds like I got caught masturbating :lmao.
:CENA
 
#8,937 ·
SaviorBeeRad™;49153018 said:
When exactly is the era of the Smackdown Six? 2002-2003 right? Feel like downloading some old Smackdowns
If it's any help, i have this custom comp. Might give you some ideas:

Disc 1
Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero (SD! 7/25/02)
Edge vs. Chris Jericho (Cage Match) (SD! 7/25/02)
Rey Mysterio vs. Tajiri (SD! 8/1/02)
Chris Benoit & Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock & Edge (SD! 8/1/02)
Kurt Angle vs. John Cena (SD! 8/8/02)
Edge, Rey Mysterio & John Cena vs. Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit & Eddie Guerrero (SD! 8/8/02)
Edge vs. Chris Jericho (Global Warming 8/10/02)
Edge & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Los Guerreros (SD! 8/15/02)
Interview w/ The Rock (SD! 8/15/02)
Chris Benoit vs. The Rock (SD! 8/15/02)


Disc 2
Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Matt Hardy (SD! 8/22/02)
Kurt Angle + Rey Mysterio (SD! 8/22/02)
Kurt Angle vs. Billy Kidman (SD! 8/22/02)
Edge & The Rock vs. Chris Benoit & Eddie Guerrero (SD! 8/22/02)
Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio (Summerslam 8/25/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge (Summerslam 8/25/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge (SD! 8/29/02)
Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker (SD! 8/29/02)
Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero & Chris Benoit vs. Undertaker, Edge & Rikishi (SD! 9/5/02)
Los Guerreros vs. Edge & John Cena (SD! 9/12/02)
Kurt Angle Promo (SD! 9/12/02)
Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. (SD! 9/12/02)


Disc 3
Los Guerreros (SD! 9/19/02)
Los Guerreros vs. Edge & Rikishi (SD! 9/19/02)
Billy Gunn & Chuck Palumbo vs. Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit (SD! 9/19/02)
Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero (Unforgiven 9/22/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge (Unforgiven 9/22/02)
Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (Unforgiven 9/22/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge (No DQ) (SD! 9/26/02)
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (SD! 9/26/02) (619)
Kurt Angle + Edge (SD! 10/3/02)
Edge vs. Kurt Angle (SD! 10/3/02)
Kurt Angle + Chris Benoit Backstage (SD! 10/3/02)

Disc 4
Rey Mysterio vs. Chris Benoit (SD! 10/3/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rikishi (SD! 10/10/02)
Backstage Vignettes and Promos (SD! 10/10/02)
Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Billy Kidman & John Cena (SD! 10/10/02)
Los Guerreros (SD! 10/10/02)
Edge & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Brock Lesnar & Tajiri (SD! 10/10/02)
Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Los Guerreros (SD! 10/17/02)
Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio & Edge (No Mercy 10/20/02)
Chris Benoit + Kurt Angle (SD! 10/24/02)
Los Guerreros vs. Rey Mysterio & Edge (SD! 10/24/02)
Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (SD! 10/24/02)

Disc 5
Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Los Guerreros (Rebellion 10/26/02)
Edge vs. Brock Lesnar & Paul Heyman (Rebellion 10/26/02)
Edge vs. Chris Benoit (SD! 10/31/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle (SD! 10/31/02)
Rey Mysterio vs. Brock Lesnar (SD! 10/31/02)
Rey Mysterio & Edge vs. Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit (2/3 Falls) (SD! 11/7/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar (SD! 11/7/02)

Disc 6
Edge vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr. (SD! 11/14/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (SD! 11/14/02)
Kurt Angle Promo (SD! 11/14/02)
Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (SD! 11/14/02)
Los Guerreros vs. Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio & Edge (Survivor Series 11/17/02)
Rey Mysterio vs. Jamie Noble (SD! 11/21/02)
Los Guerreros + Stephanie (SD! 11/21/02)
Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (SD! 11/21/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle (SD! 11/21/02)
Edge vs. The Big Show (SD! 11/21/02)
Edge & Rey Mysterio vs. Matt Hardy & John Cena (SD! 11/28/02)
Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Los Guerreros (SD! 11/28/02)

Disc 7
Rey Mysterio vs. A-Train (SD! 12/5/02)
Chavo Guerrero vs. Billy Kidman (SD! 12/5/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit vs. Edge (Elimination Match) (SD! 12/5/02)
Chris Benoit & Billy Kidman vs. Los Guerreros (SD! 12/12/02)
Edge & Kurt Angle vs. Big Show & A-Train (SD! 12/12/02)
Edge vs. A-Train (Armageddon 12/15/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit (Armageddon 12/15/02)
Kurt Angle vs. The Big Show (Armageddon 12/15/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Billy Kidman (SD! 12/19/02)
Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (SD! 12/19/02)

Disc 8
Los Guerreros vs. Edge & Kidman (SD! 12/26/02)
Los Guerreros + John Cena & B2 (SD! 12/26/02)
Chris Benoit vs. The Big Show (SD! 12/26/02)
Eddie Guerrero vs. Billy Kidman (SD! 1/2/03)
Chris Benoit & Edge vs. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin (SD! 1/2/03)
Chavo Guerrero vs. John Cena (SD! 1/9/03)
Edge vs. Charlie Haas (SD! 1/9/03)
Chris Benoit vs. Shelton Benjamin (SD! 1/9/03)
Los Guerreros vs. John Cena & B2 (SD! 1/16/03)
Edge & Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle, Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin (SD! 1/16/03)
Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (Rumble 1/19/03)

But 2003 has some great stuff with Eddie, Tajiri, Lesnar, Angle, WGTT etc.
 
#9,002 · (Edited)
So I got word this morning that I'll be traveling up to Akron, OH to work all next week (Monday June 8th - Friday or Saturday June 12/13th). About a 5 hour drive and I've never been to Ohio, so I'm kind of excited. Gonna be rackin up the OT too, but anyway. For shits and gigs I decided to check out the touring schedules for a bunch of wrestling companies, and look at this shit! It's like destiny is telling me to go to one of these. :p

Friday, June 12th - NXT in Cleveland, OH
Saturday, June 13th - WWE Live in Dayon, OH
Saturday, June 13th - WWE Live in Columbus, OH
Sunday, June 14th - Money in the Bank PPV in Columbus, OH

Akron is only 45 minutes from Cleveland! Man that would be awesome to check out that NXT show.
 
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