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Does Vince hate black wrestlers?

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#1 ·
Over the years, some 20 odd years in fact of watching wrestling, I've constantly seen talented black wrestlers enter the WWE, get a mild push and then either get dropped or just completely removed from the roster. Shelton Benjamin is the greatest example of this crap, Bobby Lashley a close second.

Benjamin was easily one of the best in ring workers I have ever seen but they just never did anything with him outside of the whole Angle push.

WHy does Vince do this? This is a question for all those die hard wrestling fans who know more about the backstage part of the bizness than I do.
 
#27 ·
Oh look, another WWE is racist against black wrestlers threads. We should know by now that Vince has his guys and will push them regardless . There have been countless legends, some of the greatest wrestlers both in the ring and on the mic that never ever got a chance to hold the belt. Think about it, Piper , Rick Rude , Mr.Perfect , Razer Ramon , Ricky Steamboat , Jake Roberts , Paul Orndorff , and Ted DiBiasse . All guys who never won the WWF title. It isn't a black thing at all, those are some of the most recognizable names in WWF history that never won the belt, now what does that say? I find it ridiculous that people think Vince needs to put the belt on someone who's black just for them being black. Give me a break. Should Booker T have won vs HHH? Absolutely but that hardly means anything considering the mass amounts of great wrestlers who never got to hold the belt that it becomes stupid as an argument
 
#9 ·
This

Was Shelton Benjamin main event material? No.
Are R-Truth main event material? No.
The Boogeyman? No.

Booker T held the ic title, the us title, the wwe title and won the king of the ring. Why? because he was actually talented.
MVP held the us title for 343 days. Why? because he had charisma unlike others.
 
#12 ·
What about Mark Henry? He's had the top belt at least twice, and he beat the likes of Randy Orton clean to retain one of them.
 
#14 ·
If he had problems with them he wouldn't have made them WHCs now would he? He has done the same to countless white people to but you don't see "Does Vince hate white people" threads. Why make racist suggestions when there isn't anything to gain. What matters in the end of the day is your skill but even more than that having a character that is appealing to the audience to get massively over.

Shelton Benjamin was good but it didn't seem like he belonged in Main Event and even if he would have become champ it would been flash in the pain much like our dear Miz.
 
#21 ·
The Rock? He's not black

Umm the rock is black sure he's done ok in wwe.
see above

Well when all Vince gives us is guys like "Kung Fu Naki" and "Yoshi Tatsu", you can't really blame 'Muricans for thinking that way...Give us an asian wrestler that we can actually take serious and maybe that wouldn't be the perception anymore.
Yeah, all the asian wrestlers that come on have terrible, jokey or down right racist gimmicks. makes no sense to me.

also, what are you fools, complaining about white wrestlers, the vast majority of the big stars in this business have been white!

benjamin wasn't good on the mic but neither is cena, or batista, or big show, or bryan yet benjamin was far more physically gifted than all of them.

maybe it's a red neck issue as most american fans are red necks and we know how much they love black people, am i right?
 
#17 · (Edited)
Not sure if he hates Black wrestlers, I just don't think that there's been as many good Black wrestlers to push as there's been White wrestlers in WWE's history, Rock being the exception. If they don't have good mic skills, in ring ability, the heavyweight "look", and aren't marketable, they're not going to be WWE WHC. Same for any other wrestler.
 
#26 ·
People sure love to criticise Vince. I'm not sure which black wrestler was mistreated. Shelton Benjamin was great in the ring but was terrible on the mic and was simply not championship material. The fact that Mark Henry is a former champion tells you everything you need to know about Vince not being a racist.
 
#32 ·
Yea, again, Rock isn't black.
You should tell his dad that, then come back here and tell us how that went for you

Over the years, some 20 odd years in fact of watching wrestling, I've constantly seen talented black wrestlers enter the WWE, get a mild push and then either get dropped or just completely removed from the roster. Shelton Benjamin is the greatest example of this crap, Bobby Lashley a close second.
OK, here's the thing. Lashley = overrated. No stick skills, just a second rate Lesnar (watch his stuff in TNA right now, not exactly ground breaking, just Reigns without the superman punch mostly)

Shelton Benjamin is good in ring, I will grant you that. But so are a lot of wrestlers (Lance Storm anyone?) that never got that WWE push. Also if he couldn't get the solo strap in RoH then he isn't the great you think he is because they know how to pick em. Samoa Joe, CM Punk, Austin Aries, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, all have gone on to be stars. Best Shelton has gotten is the tag straps with Haas in WWE and RoH
 
#30 ·
For the people saying Benjamin didn't deserve the belt because he wasn't main event material just remember that the Great Khali was champion. Vince is completely ignorant to black wrestlers just look at what he did to Ron Simmons when he first got there, Paul Heyman sees past color and goes solely on talent and it's no coincidence that Benjamin was becoming a breakout star on SD before his ill fated switch to RAW. What i can't stand is that in order for a black wrestler to get a push we have to be a "sure thing", yet white wrestlers for the most part are given the chance to sink or swim. I also don't want to put this completely on Vince because there are people in the back who are stuck in their old ways and believe wrestling is a white man's sport.
 
#34 ·
For the people saying Benjamin didn't deserve the belt because he wasn't main event material just remember that the Great Khali was champion.
Khali WAS main event material. A once in a lifetime performer. He fully deserved to be champion at least once.

I'd also wonder why racist Vince hates black people but loves Indians.

I think if Vince found a muscular black man over 7 feet tall he'd probably be champion too.
 
#33 ·
There haven't been any "main-event caliber" black wrestlers in WWE.

it's certainly not because of Vince being racist, which is ludicrous.

Rock (or is he not considered black?) is talented as FUCK and achieved wonders.

Who else is main event worthy? Who else can you see go toe to toe with the likes of Rock, Austin, Cena, Hogan, Punk, Bryan and think "wow this guy is badass, can totally beat him". I've not seen many. I can name you wrestlers who certainly do *NOT* qualify, and they include:

Shelton Benjamin, MVP, Mark Henry, Ahmed Johnson, Big E, Farooq, R Truth...

Booker T was pretty good. And he achieved success.

stupid topic.
 
#35 ·
You could accuse Vince of being many things and be pretty accurate in your accusations, but being a racist isn't one of them.

The fact is is that there's just been no black wrestlers who've been good enough to stay consistently around the main event and didn't get a push anyway (Mark Henry and Booker have enjoyed lengthy careers and world title reigns and Lashley got pushed to the moon with the ECW title, feud with Cena and alliance with Trump at WM23, so you can't say there haven't been any successful black wrestlers). Benjamin is the obvious standout as a black wrestler who never amounted to much, but as good as he was he also had some obvious deficiencies and him not getting to the main event was sort of understandable and not the travesty that it would have been if the likes of Austin, Rock, Angle etc. never made it to the top.

There have been plenty of talented white wrestlers who never got given the proper opportunity or given what they deserved.
 
#40 ·
Lashley was pushed, but to put it mildly he could not cut a promo to save his life and was just too boring.

Benjamin was talented, but lacked the charisma and mic skills.

Henry should get a WWE Championship title reign as a monster heel (not WHC). He deserves it for all the crap Vince has put him through.

Other than those 3, I don't think there has been any black wrestlers that were main-event level when they were in WWE
 
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