Cena knew what he was getting himself into by agreeing to the match. People have won matches despite injury.
Doesn't make it clean, Bryan was not put over as the better man. The excuse for Cena losing is that he was injured. And that was WELL ADVERTISED with articles on WWE.com, and the announce team talking about the injury weeks before leading up to the finish of the match. They even teased stopping the match, that should say it all.
It was not clean because Bryan was not put over as being the better man, the excuse for Cena & cena fans is that he was injured.
Anything goes and nobody interference. That's clean in my book. Oh and this is the same Cena who used duct tape to defeat Batista once, LOL.
Did it put over Orton as being the better man? When Cena came out the next night & referenced the handcuffs. If it was clean, if it was John Cena putting Randy Orton over clean it would have been "you outsmarted me" (with the handcuffs) not bringing it up in a sense that he cheated. And to add to that, they also zoomed in on signs that said Cena is the true champ cause Orton cheated? But they didn't do all that to protect Cena's character right?
You can't really put someone over in a Ladder match anyways.
Because a finish without interference or cheating is a clean finish, whether the opponent is 100% or not.
Clean finish sure, it doesn't put one wrestler over the other as being the better man though.
The pt he's trying to make, I think, is that Cena isn't burying ppl or holding them down. Which is true, I don't think he's prevented anyone from succeeding, if anything he's only helped to create stars. He's never even been the undisputed champion (though Raw champion is a big deal).
His presence alone holds the rest of the roster down, there has been stories about Cena holding down talent (the Nexus for example). Yes he does hold talent down, hell he took credit for making CM Punk, Daniel Bryan & Dolph Ziggler when he did nothing to help them succeed. Look at where Punk & Ziggler are now.
You don't stay on top as long as he has without having some pull backstage.
Originally Posted by RenegadexParagon
TLC match was no DQ. Doesn't matter if it was used, Orton had no outside intereference therefore it was clean.
As for SummerSlam, after the match both Cena & the Authority put over Bryan's win as a clean one.
You can't really put someone over clean in a no DQ match either way. Cause anything can happen. It doesn't make it clean or anything IMo because its a Ladder match, you aren't pinning the other guy you are grabbing a belt. Its not a clean win. Cena didn't put Orton over.
And like I said earlier, with the teasing of ending the match (due to Cena's injury) and the constant talk about it from the announce table. It was not Cena putting Bryan over clean because Cena wasn't 100%.