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Old 04-02-2014, 01:45 AM   #41 (permalink)
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How was the Summerslam match clean when coming into the match his character wasn't 100%?
Because a finish without interference or cheating is a clean finish, whether the opponent is 100% or not.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:49 AM   #42 (permalink)
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You have to understand that when it comes to Cena, facts don't really matter. Smarks gonna believe what they want to believe.
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Rock low-blowed Austin at WMXIX.

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Ya, use your brain.

Austin was so over you couldn't have him lose clean left right & center, he was the show, he was the reason WWE didn't die.

There has never been a point in Cena's career where he has ever been even close to Austin's popularity.

When you have someone like an Austin or a Rock or a Hogan who is that over, they are the show, they don't lose clean. (especially Hogan & Austin).

Cena is not and never has been in that class.
The pt he's trying to make, I think, is that Cena isn't burying ppl or holding them down. Which is true, I don't think he's prevented anyone from succeeding, if anything he's only helped to create stars. He's never even been the undisputed champion (though Raw champion is a big deal).
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Hard workers have something to show for their hard work. He shows up, but he doesn't work hard. He's a reliable worker, not a hard worker.
No, John Cena's a hard worker. Judge him by the same standards as anyone else. I don't like his character anymore than you do, but he tears that shit up when he wrestles, AND he's absurdly strong. Lol even the AA gets trivialized by ppl as this simple move. Throwing somebody UP ABOVE YOU is not easy. The way he half-asses it with Big Show, where he kindof tilts and drops him, that's what a normal AA would be if any other wrestler tried it. I'll bet Henry/Big Show/Cena/Sheamus/Cesaro are the only guys ho can do the AA the way Cena does it.
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Cena also has almost double the WWE title reigns than these guys. I think it's a fair exchange lol

Others have pointed out the error of comparing Austin and Hogan to Cena.
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How was the Summerslam match clean when coming into the match his character wasn't 100%?

And how was losing to Orton clean when handcuffs were used & Cena mentioned that THE NEXT NIGHT?

Cena should have lost more than them, his run is longer than both of there's combined, and he isn't even close (And I mean not even in the same stratosphere) to them when it pertains to popularity & being over.

This is what is expected of him, not anything to brag about.
TLC match was no DQ. Doesn't matter if it was used, Orton had no outside intereference therefore it was clean.

As for SummerSlam, after the match both Cena & the Authority put over Bryan's win as a clean one.
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Cena knew what he was getting himself into by agreeing to the match. People have won matches despite injury.
Doesn't make it clean, Bryan was not put over as the better man. The excuse for Cena losing is that he was injured. And that was WELL ADVERTISED with articles on WWE.com, and the announce team talking about the injury weeks before leading up to the finish of the match. They even teased stopping the match, that should say it all.

It was not clean because Bryan was not put over as being the better man, the excuse for Cena & cena fans is that he was injured.

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Anything goes and nobody interference. That's clean in my book. Oh and this is the same Cena who used duct tape to defeat Batista once, LOL.

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Did it put over Orton as being the better man? When Cena came out the next night & referenced the handcuffs. If it was clean, if it was John Cena putting Randy Orton over clean it would have been "you outsmarted me" (with the handcuffs) not bringing it up in a sense that he cheated. And to add to that, they also zoomed in on signs that said Cena is the true champ cause Orton cheated? But they didn't do all that to protect Cena's character right?

You can't really put someone over in a Ladder match anyways.

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Because a finish without interference or cheating is a clean finish, whether the opponent is 100% or not.
Clean finish sure, it doesn't put one wrestler over the other as being the better man though.

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The pt he's trying to make, I think, is that Cena isn't burying ppl or holding them down. Which is true, I don't think he's prevented anyone from succeeding, if anything he's only helped to create stars. He's never even been the undisputed champion (though Raw champion is a big deal).
His presence alone holds the rest of the roster down, there has been stories about Cena holding down talent (the Nexus for example). Yes he does hold talent down, hell he took credit for making CM Punk, Daniel Bryan & Dolph Ziggler when he did nothing to help them succeed. Look at where Punk & Ziggler are now.

You don't stay on top as long as he has without having some pull backstage.

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TLC match was no DQ. Doesn't matter if it was used, Orton had no outside intereference therefore it was clean.

As for SummerSlam, after the match both Cena & the Authority put over Bryan's win as a clean one.
You can't really put someone over clean in a no DQ match either way. Cause anything can happen. It doesn't make it clean or anything IMo because its a Ladder match, you aren't pinning the other guy you are grabbing a belt. Its not a clean win. Cena didn't put Orton over.

And like I said earlier, with the teasing of ending the match (due to Cena's injury) and the constant talk about it from the announce table. It was not Cena putting Bryan over clean because Cena wasn't 100%.
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