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I re-watched Mortis/Wrath vs Glacier/Ernest Miller last night

Just finished watching Jericho/X-Pac from Unforgiven 2000 & that match was fantastic in my opinion.

Will watch that Jericho match next.

Before watching Mortis/Wrath vs FoF, I rewatched Jericho/Eddie. Still one of my favorite matches to watch, Eddie was just phenomenal here. This is probably Jericho's second best match after the Benoit Ladder match. Once Eddie came back from injury, I feel he was the best wrestler in the world in 1997. That's saying a lot considering all the greatness that happened that year.

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Only thing I remember about Fatal Four Way was the crowd chanting Daniel Bryan at the end .

Jericho/X-Pac sounds fun. One can make a good argument that X-Pac was a top three worker in the AE. Has anyone seen his GWF stuff? I remember liking a match he had with Jerry Lynn and another one with Sabu I believe.

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Only thing I remember about Fatal Four Way was the crowd chanting Daniel Bryan at the end .

Jericho/X-Pac sounds fun. One can make a good argument that X-Pac was a top three worker in the AE. Has anyone seen his GWF stuff? I remember liking a match he had with Jerry Lynn and another one with Sabu I believe.

As long as we both agree that Mick Foley was the MVP of the AE from a ring work stand point. Obviously Austin and Rock and Taker were bigger names, but Missus Foley's Baby boy was by far the most consistent worker and delivered the best matches.

If the AE started around December 1997 and ended when WCW was bought, Austin, Rock, Taker, and Hunter all had their best matches during that era with Mick.

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Jericho/X-Pac from UF is great, gave it ***3/4 when I rambled on the event.

Speak of, I'm taking a break from the awful, awful Raw 03 PPV Rambles and I'm watching... No Mercy 2003 . SAVE_US_SMACKDOWN!

EDIT: Actually Rock had his best matches with HHH during that time .
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Jericho/X-Pac from UF is great, gave it ***3/4 when I rambled on the event.

Speak of, I'm taking a break from the awful, awful Raw 03 PPV Rambles and I'm watching... No Mercy 2003 . SAVE_US_SMACKDOWN!

EDIT: Actually Rock had his best matches with HHH during that time .

Hmmmm. Rock/Hunter Backlash 2000 and Judgement Day 2000 vs Rock/Mankind Royal Rumble 1999 and St. Valentines Day Massacre......you might have a point. If the Hunter matches are better, it's not by much.

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Will watch that Jericho match next.

Before watching Mortis/Wrath vs FoF, I rewatched Jericho/Eddie. Still one of my favorite matches to watch, Eddie was just phenomenal here. This is probably Jericho's second best match after the Benoit Ladder match. Once Eddie came back from injury, I feel he was the best wrestler in the world in 1997. That's saying a lot considering all the greatness that happened that year.
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Was very bored on a Saturday afternoon, so I decided to watch one of my old wrestling DVD's which I haven't done in so long, specifically to re-watch one of my favorite Cena matches - John Cena vs Umaga Last Man Standing match from Royal Rumble 2007. And this match was as good as I remember it being. Umaga's wild in ring style and monster character makes his work on Cena's ribs very enjoyable to watch, Cena's selling builds up the sympathy on Cena which makes the crowd go from a bit of mixed reaction to Cena at the start to getting behind him as underdog in a battle with a unstoppable monster, kinda reminds me of Cena/Brock from Extreme Rules 2012 and how the crowd slowly started to get behind Cena from getting his ass kicked for most of the match. There was some unique spots in this match that I liked, not your typical ones you'd expect, particularly the use of the steel steps I really liked. Cena's brief little comebacks were good, further putting over Umaga's dominance when they didn't amount to anything. And it wasn't until Umaga made his own mistakes by first when he went through the announce table, and secondly when he got distracted by Estrada, that Cena was able to turn the match around. And I love the finish of this match, Umaga was built as a unstoppable monster, how are you going to convincingly keep a monster down for a 10 count? Cena choking the fuck out of Umaga was great, JR's line of: ''even a monster's got to breath'' was brilliant and Umaga's great selling made it very convincing. Definitely a unique way to end the match, and I have no problems with the finish. Legit ****1/2 to ****3/4 match for me. Love it.
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Rock and Hunter also had that hideous Fully Loaded 1998 match. I want everyone to watch it just so they can realize just how low wrestling can get.

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Nah, both those HHH/Rock matches are way ahead of the Mankind/Rock matches IN THE HUMBLE OPINION OF CAL.
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I'd rather watch the Mick matches to be perfectly honest. I don't know if that makes them better, but it's certainly my preference. I like Rock as the bad guy more.

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