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Old 02-08-2014, 02:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't care if people think it's "de-valued", it's a world title, that branding is valuable in and of itself. I'm not interested in seeing people win the IC or US title. At all.
They should just stick to one major title and two mid card titles imo. If they wouldn't fuck up the mid card so bad booking wise they'd have some golden stuff. I think they should have people on the creative team strictly responsible for mid card guys. It really is a slop fest down there.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't care if people think it's "de-valued", it's still a world title, that branding is valuable in and of itself. I'm not interested in seeing people win the IC or US title. At all.
That's because they've done a terrible job making the IC title feel important since they've had two major world titles. Now that they only have one, the U.S. title should go away and the IC title should be made important again.

I've always found the two world titles absolutely ridiculous. Just like the roster split. There's no need. It's one company, there should be one world champion. The guys who aren't ready to make it to that next level yet should be feuding for the IC title.
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They should just stick to one major title and two mid card titles imo. If they wouldn't fuck up the mid card so bad booking wise they'd have some golden stuff. I think they should have people on the creative team strictly responsible for mid card guys. It really is a slop fest down there.
Yeah, they should just stick to one world title and then John Cena, Roman Reigns and Randy Orton can be the only people in the next 15 years who get to hold it. That just sounds fucking thrilling. I can't wait.

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That's because they've done a terrible job making the IC title feel important since they've had two major world titles. Now that they only have one, the U.S. title should go away and the IC title should be made important again.

I've always found the two world titles absolutely ridiculous. Just like the roster split. There's no need. It's one company, there should be one world champion. The guys who aren't ready to make it to that next level yet should be feuding for the IC title.
The IC title was never important, winning that belt is not an accomplishment. And their idea of who's ready and who's not ready has nothing to do with talent, it has to do with politics and their body. Almost 100% of the time, the guys who should be in the midcard are in the main events and the guys who should be in the main events are in the midcard.
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Yeah, they should just stick to one world title and then John Cena, Roman Reigns and Randy Orton can be the only people in the next 15 years who get to hold it. That just sounds fucking thrilling. I can't wait.
hahaha Don't forget Batista! But really, it kinda feels like they're in reset mode right now. I think HHH is trying to get certain people established in a certain way right now before he really hits the gas.
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Yeah, they should just stick to one world title and then John Cena, Roman Reigns and Randy Orton can be the only people in the next 15 years who get to hold it. That just sounds fucking thrilling. I can't wait.



The IC title was never important, winning that belt is not an accomplishment.
How long have you been watching? Before the roster split and the two world titles, the IC title was absolutely important.
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How long have you been watching? Before the roster split and the two world titles, the IC title was absolutely important.
Or how about arguably the two biggest stars in the company at the time The Rock and Stone Cold feuding over it in the late 90's.
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Or how about arguably the two biggest stars in the company at the time The Rock and Stone Cold feuding over it in the late 90's.
At which point they weren't the 2 biggest stars in the company...

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How long have you been watching? Before the roster split and the two world titles, the IC title was absolutely important.
Since 1990, and no, I never valued the IC title one bit. You're either a world champion or you're a geek, there's no in between. The IC title is the silver medal, that's not good enough.
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Why would anyone think this is a good idea? The roster split was the dumbest move ever. SmackDown is finally enjoyable again because wrestlers from both shows appear. And it's still treated as the B show. Do you really want to go back to the time when SmackDown had no major stars?

No roster split. No two major titles. I'm so glad that is finally over with.

It's time to get rid of the world title belt. They do only need Orton to come out with one belt and that should be the WWE title.
No major stars?
THey had batista, undertaker, rey mysterio, benoit and a bunch of others....guess they weren't stars
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How long have you been watching? Before the roster split and the two world titles, the IC title was absolutely important.
WHAT? The IC belt hasn't been important since 98. 15 years ago.
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My Idea for the Title Scene. (NO!! It probably won't happen. But it makes sense to me)
- Step 1, De-unify the Brands. Split the superstars to each brand EVENLY!
Reason: There are way too many superstars being left out on the sidelines. They aren't being used at all, except for maybe the occasional house show. Splitting into two separate brands would allow them to explore new paths with superstars who aren't new to the business, but really haven't gotten a chance. It makes sense to me that if you have tons of superstars, that the second show should include them and not just be building up the same storylines that we see on a 3 hour Raw (that's plenty of time enough if you ask me)

- Step 2, De-Unify the Main Titles
Reason: See Step 1, Goes along with that.

- Step 3, Permanently Make Smackdown Live.
Reason: After you have split the brands up evenly, there will be reason to watch both shows. View rates will go up even more when you decide to make it live. When its pre-recorded, spoilers and early uploads ruin its viewership. Will cost a little more to produce, but will be worth it in the end. 2002-2004, Smackdown was amazing and competed with Raw...Even when it wasn't live.

- Step 4, De-unify tag titles.
Reason: The Start of the decaying of the tag division started when they unified them in the first place. Goes along with step one of teams not just setting around all the time and gives them more case to build upon. That being said, they need to keep their teams and not just split one up every few months. They need to credit the ones they already have. Use some of the unused superstars and even for new ones (Credify them in some shape or form) REBUILD THE TAG DIVISION

-Step 5, and this is the most important. BUILD STORYLINES AROUND THE TITLES!
Reason: What made title matches so exciting were the Storylines surrounding them. IC, US Title, Tag Titles, and such aren't entertaining because they have no cause. They randomly have matches to name the Number one contender and it just gets thrown together. Build tension, make two people hate each other and rip each other apart for a shot at the title or for a title itself. After the two brands unified, storylines sorta dropped off. So if you need to de-unify the brands in order to make room for more storylines...DO IT!

Just the way i see it. Don't see it as THE THING TO DO...just my opinion
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