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Old 02-02-2014, 11:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i'll admit I never really liked Batista but he was more tolerable then most on the roster and I could see the appeal. However now he comes back from doing virtually nothing oh im sorry he had a few small parts in big movies and a few big parts in small movies, I stand corrected...Guardians of the Galaxy not withstanding. The problem is that he sucks now plain and simple and he's just being handed the WM title match out of fucking nowhere. I guess you could make the same argument with The Rock but the difference being that The Rock is a much bigger star then Batista and that he proved that he still had it both in the ring and out. Also The Rock clearly has huge Hollywood commitments so he did what he came to do and now he's happy as larry doing what he loves and no-one's complaining. I'm not so sure it'll be the same case with Batista.
Well to be fair the guy did just return after 4 years, i'll wait until his contract is up before making a true judgment. He's only been in one match and has ring rust of course you have to factor those things in. The point of this thread was not to discuss Batista's Rumble/Mania bookings, it was too focus on the fact why age is always brought up? Why is age such a thing on these forums? Not Batista's booking. I wanted to sway away from that because that can be discussed in the official thread. This is about AGE.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I find it helarious all the Dave hate lol. He prolly shouldn't have won the rumble... But the backlash he's getting is unreal. Imma wait till he has a full one on one match before I judge.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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When Batista returned on Raw, he was wearing skinny jeans and there was literally no fat on him I don't know how you depicted that he's fat. All I saw was muscles and jeans. Of course he's going to be out of shape and less stamina when he's been away for FOUR years, that's FOUR years of no consistent cardio and exercise that was to be expected.

How do you explain Finlay? Finlay never had to be carried at all, he carried Bobby Lashley and Mr. Kennedy to good matches in 2006 and he was in his 50s then. Finlay was tearing it up at that age. I don't think age takes AS MUCH toll as people make it out to be. Finlay probably hits the gym and stays in shape. All that happened with Big Dave was the simple fact that he needed to get in shape.
I'll agree, Dave needs to get in shape. No hate for the guy here. I like Batista and said as much. I just don't think in the shape he's in currently you're going to get more than a 5 minute squash out of him. Look at just his face vs photos of five or six years ago, he has put on a lot of weight.

I can't speak about Finlay, I never watched his matches, he got on my nerves. I don't think his run in the WWE was that long either, and I had what I guess you would call contempt for the other brands.

I'm sure some of the older guys can do okay, but I'll offer they are the exception rather than the rule. Speaking of the toll age takes on your body, I can personally attest to the fact that the effect is dramatic, especially post 40.
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Batista is actually currently worse than a good part of the roster. Upon his latest return, I have remarked nothing positive about him. Out of shape, gassed after a short amount of time, botching the few simple moves he executed... Not even spectacular at all on the mic. There is little appeal to him. The crowds are more interested in actually interesting and captivating talent like Daniel Bryan.
Daniel Bryan is just one name though. Who else Barrett? Brodus? Ew. Xavier Woods? Fandango? Justin Gabriel? Tyson Kidd? Sure Bryan, Shield, Cody, and maybe Ziggler but you act like there are plethora amounts of young guys more compelling when its basically Bryan, Shield, and Cody really. Who else? The roster is rather big ya know. Of course Batista was gassed so what? So was The Rock, and many others with ring rust and being absent from WWE for so long. Why do people ignore this fact. There's a thing called ring rust and being out of shape.
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Dude stop being a Batista apologist and accept that he sucks.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Dude stop being a Batista apologist and accept that he sucks.
This has nothing to do with skill, this is about age, that was why specifically mentioned "age in general" afterwards. No his previous run worked, and he doesn't suck otherwise he wouldn't have had the good matches he had in the past. HHH, Eddie Guerrero, Ric Flair, Rey Mysterio, and Edge know more about wrestling than youd do so what they say about Batista is mor eon point. The only bad ones were with Orton. Again this thread was intended to discuss about our obsession with age not whether he's good or not. Read the damn thread and quit being lazy.
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Daniel Bryan is just one name though. Who else Barrett? Brodus? Ew. Xavier Woods? Fandango? Justin Gabriel? Tyson Kidd? Sure Bryan, Shield, Cody, and maybe Ziggler but you act like there are plethora amounts of young guys more compelling when its basically Bryan, Shield, and Cody really. Who else? The roster is rather big ya know. Of course Batista was gassed so what? So was The Rock, and many others with ring rust and being absent from WWE for so long. Why do people ignore this fact. There's a thing called ring rust and being out of shape.
There is something called ring rust, but it does not excuse someone returning and winning the Royal Rumble match straight away from being able to properly execute a spinebuster.

And yes, I find Barrett far more interesting than Batista. He is entertaining on the mic, and good enough in the ring. You admitted yourself that Shield, Cody, Ziggler, and Bryan are deserving, and they are. They deserve to be further up the card than Batista.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:37 PM   #28 (permalink)
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There is something called ring rust, but it does not excuse someone returning and winning the Royal Rumble match straight away from being able to properly execute a spinebuster.

And yes, I find Barrett far more interesting than Batista. He is entertaining on the mic, and good enough in the ring. You admitted yourself that Shield, Cody, Ziggler, and Bryan are deserving, and they are. They deserve to be further up the card than Batista.
Ok? So I said Cody, Ziggler, Bryan, and Shield should move up, that doesn't mean Batista should move down, you can't have a multiple time champion just suddenly become a midcarder. When guys like Cody and Bryan pin Batista it makes them into stars, if they pin a midcard Batista then that won't mean much at all. Its not like those stars won't get their chance so why complain its best to be patient and not get the Ryback treatment, ya know the rushed booking? Barrett doesn't have a rich past to look up or engaging fun feuds, Batista has a defining moveset as a powerhouse and looked badass during his first run. Batista is more compelling than Barrett, when the guy turns heel there's all kinds of possibilities and directions he can go. Can't say the same for a guy isn't so identifiable in the ring.

All Barrett has mic skills, but so did Mr. Kennedy and MVP and look at what happened to them. Mic skills isn't the only wrestling attribute, its having a look, a character, stage presence, the no nonsense badass Animal that brought Batista to the foil.

Actually we swayed from the threads original intent and it seems as though no one is focusing on the thread. This thread was to ask about why we focus on age so much? It was talked about in the Christian thread and every Batista topic. We have this obsession with age and i'm trying to figure out why must it be such a thing in threads like these?
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If the young guys were any good the WWE wouldn't need to bring in older guys that are still better than them.
If WWE allowed their current roster to be themselves and not script promos word-for-word like they do today and allow them to be creative, they probably wouldn't need to continuously bring in older guys.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:50 PM   #30 (permalink)
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It's sad how nobody knows how to read by going off the tangent talking about Batista's booking and all that jazz when this thread wasn't about that. Congratulations people you all showed a great display of comprehension . I guess females really are superior.
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