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Old 12-26-2013, 11:45 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I like having both around, but if you get rid of one to bring in a specialized title (TV, Hardcore, Cruiserweight) I'd be for it.

Otherwise, I'm fine with three singles titles. One major, one upper midcard, and one lower midcard. It makes sense that way and always worked well for WCW back in the day when they had World, US, and TV.
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Yes.

Technically speaking "Intercontinental", without being specific of the continents, could also mean "World" couldnt it? That always bothered me. I'm in favor of a whole new title though. A branding that hasn't been done before.
The Intercontinental Title refers to the merging of the North American and South American Titles by Pat Patterson back in the 70's. It's a forgotten history, I wouldn't expect anyone to know that, but those are the two continents the title joined together.
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Just don't name it anything ridiculous like Unified U.S. Intercontinental. Like Big E said, the U.S. Title should just be absorbed. Since they brought back the classic white strap, I say just keep it that way and hang it above the ring with the U.S. Title.

The winner grabs both titles but becomes only the Intercontinental Champion while the U.S. Title is retired and put in a display case at Titan.

Both titles have had a lost a lot of prestige over the years but I think with both Big E and Dean Ambrose holding them, that they've gained a little bit of that prestige back.

To retain that prestige, there should only be one guy holding a definitive upper-midcard title. This way, it makes it much more prestigious because the number one contender will likely be the loser of the Unification match.

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Thanks for the history on that. I was just now thinking "if it doesn't mean the same as World, which continents does it represent."

I like how WWE is going in the title Unification direction that I've suggested earlier in the year.



It makes so much more sense, is less cluttered of a title scene, and adds prestige to the titles because they're now a rarer commodity.

WWE, I know you're reading me (MMM). And seeing as that's the case, how about a shout-out one of these days. Could be subtle. (Oh wait, they recently compared Eric Rowan to Michael Myers...and haven't they been calling Bray Wyatt the 'Maniacal' leader of the Wyatts?)

..and all of this after I suggested Daniel Bryan join the Wyatts before it was even a storyline. Coincidence? I think not.

Next up, a fan holding a WF/MMM sign. Vince Russo.. eat your heart out.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Prestige my ass. They could easily have credible champs defending belts in fine storylines. They have more than four hours of t.v. time to kill just on Smackdown and RAW on a weekly basis. How can a t.v. program that lasts 22 or 44 minutes be compelling but they do not know how to book 4 goddamned men's single titles when they have 18 hours to work with every month?

It is even harder to book unification belts than 4 belts. You do not even know what you want. You probably thought 3 hour RAW was going to help the mid card when it has totally buried it. The company isnt even walking with the historical belts but now you want sprinting with unification?
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I'm against the title unification just because of how large the roster is. If they unify them, I feel like they should reintroduce the cruiserweight championship or something.

On the other hand, Dean Ambrose made the US title more irrelevant than the Diva's championship, so a unification might be best.
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Prestige my ass. They could easily have credible champs defending belts in fine storylines. They have more than four hours of t.v. time to kill just on Smackdown and RAW on a weekly basis. How can a t.v. program that lasts 22 or 44 minutes be compelling but they do not know how to book 4 goddamned men's single titles when they have 18 hours to work with every month?

It is even harder to book unification belts than 4 belts. You do not even know what you want. You probably thought 3 hour RAW was going to help the mid card when it has totally buried it. The company isnt even walking with the historical belts but now you want sprinting with unification?
The problem is that the belts they have were brand specific. Once the brand split ended, it was hard for them to say this belt means more than this belt. I know a lot of people just say that the titles that originated from WWF (WWE & IC) mean more than the ones from WCW (WHC & US) but it isn't always that simple and the guys they've thrown these belts on helps not at all.

Essentially, I think the belts are supposed to be equal in kayfabe despite which belt the fans favor. That's why they were put up against each other in unification to begin with. It shows that they were meant to be equal.

No brand split = pointless to have equivalent belts.

Oh and for the record, I knew 3 hour RAW was a terrible idea and knew it would just mean more ads and filler and lower card matches that no one cares about.
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Get rid of the IC and stick with the US title. Mainly because its never defended outside of the US.
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at the opening line:

"We know, we know. Youíve barely gotten used to calling Randy Orton the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, and already WWE.com is stirring the pot with more merger talk. But we canít help but wonder: Should the United States and Intercontinental Titles be unified?"
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This is half the reason it shouldn't be unified.

People voting yes are obviously too optimistic about the WWE. Optimistic in thinking that the unified mid-card title will definitely get more attention from backstage personnel (ie bookers and creative).

Which it likely won't.
Keyword: likely.
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lol at the clowns saying yes, even more opportunities being robbed from young, fresh stars.
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Obviously you don't understand the concept .. less is more! ... it makes a title much more worth having when it's harder to hold the title.

That said, should they unify the IC belt ... in my opinion ... only if they keep the IC belt as it is, but allow the IC belt to have relevance again like it once did when it was a stepping stone to talent who would then enter the main title picture (which not all would retain).

Unifying the recent titles was the best thing WWE have done in a long time, really ... but that's all that should be done I think, in fact a cruiser weight belt wouldn't actually go amiss for those guys to battle over as a side title.

But mainly we should have the IC and main title, tag teams (obviously) and diva's title for the diva's ... that's it really.

The USC is ok I suppose but not overly needed, and as I mentioned about cruiser weight, it's not needed, but if they unified the IC belt and the USC title, as long as we still had the IC belt and not some other title rendition ... then it's fine.
No, I do understand the concept. Lots of you seem to have difficulty understanding that after Unification, only a few top guys will hold the world title/be in the world title scene, that gets guys like Cody Rhodes, Damien Sandow, Cesaro, Langston, etc almost certain to never be in a World Title feud or hold a World Title. Bigger division between Midcard and Main Event.
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