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Old 11-15-2013, 08:26 PM   #61 (permalink)
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What also really hurt his reign is when he turned heel on The Rock we all knew he was going to hold the belt until the Rumble. Like I said before WWE really booked his reign terribly and the fact he was never in the main event really showed how much faith WWE had in him. Luckily Punk is talented enough that he can make the most out of shitty booking.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:32 PM   #62 (permalink)
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- It was nothing more than the world's longest transitional reign
- It didn't put anyone over
- The storylines were uninspired, and the matches were nothing special
- It exhibited just how one-dimensional and charmless CM Punk is (not to mention boring), and that he obviously did not possess the innate presence or charisma to carry the company
- It was dominated by a mediocre midcard champion, who made the strap feel like a midcard belt.
. If he doesn't have the presence and charisma he will not be the most over guy in the company and get his name chanted over your hero Taker countless times or any part timer that WWE have put in front of him. To me there is no doubt if he was booked as strong as any top star or part timer he will be apple to reach higher levels in his career. But either ways he was carrying the company by himself (Cena just MainEventing over him) in 2012 as he was the best thing about that whole year. Come on his reign is definitely one of the top ones in terms of ring work. He didn't make it feel like a midcard title WWE did.

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Old 11-15-2013, 08:34 PM   #63 (permalink)
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at it being a great inring title reign.

Punk - Bryan and Punk - Jericho were some of the more snooze inducing title matches I'd seen in recent years. I was still laughing my ass off when they said Punk/Jericho was going to steal the show at WM. It was a complete afterthought afterwards. And if you think those matches were great, you need to check yourself in a psychiatrist institution.

And don't even get me started on Punk - Rock. Those matches were worse than seeing an aborted fetus.

His only good matches were really with Cena and ADR. And the quality of those matches had more to with the other guys talent.
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. If he doesn't have the presence and charisma he will not be the most over guy in the company and get his name chanted over your hero Taker countless times or any part timer that WWE have put in front of him. To me there is no doubt if he was booked as strong as any top star or part timer he will be apple to reach higher levels in his career. But either ways he was carrying the company by himself (Cena just MainEventing over him) in 2012 as he was the best thing about that whole year. Come on his reign is definitely one of the top ones in terms of ring work. He didn't make it feel like a midcard title WWE did.
Oh please, those part timers still got the majority of the cheers. Punk marks are some of the most deluded revisionists ever, I swear.
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Default Re: Why do people crap on CM Punk's title reign?

Because there are some people who don't like Punk, and naturally they'd hate the fact he held the title for so long... longer than anyone in some of their lifetimes (longer than anyone in mine I know).

Kayfabe wise, it's a huge achievement. The problem with the title reign was he was either sharing the spotlight, or for the middle part of it, taking a backseat to John Cena. However he still has a whole list of great-awesome matches from the reign, had many great promos, the feud with Jericho started out great and wasn't THAT bad (although it did take a nosedive in quality when Jericho started hammering on Punk about his family and wanting to drink and all that crap). His feud with Cena was fine, his feud with Bryan was a bit dull (especially when AJ got put into the mix), and the Ryback feud... well, it was fun for what it was. And the program with Rock was a great one that may not have led to the great match we were all hoping for, but it was still good enough and the title change was made all the more memorable because of how long Punk held the title for.

The feuds themselves were the weakest part of his reign, but at the end of the day the match and promo quality more than made up for. His couple of matches with Henry were arguably the best of Henry's career, the NOC match with Cena and the WM match with Jericho were awesome bouts, and the Bryan OTL match was the best match in years outside of the Taker/HBK matches.
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So which reign do you guys think was better, Punk's or Diesel's? Two of the top WWE title reigns.
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at it being a great inring title reign.

Punk - Bryan and Punk - Jericho were some of the more snooze inducing title matches I'd seen in recent years. I was still laughing my ass off when they said Punk/Jericho was going to steal the show at WM. It was a complete afterthought afterwards. And if you think those matches were great, you need to check yourself in a psychiatrist institution.

And don't even get me started on Punk - Rock. Those matches were worse than seeing an aborted fetus.

His only good matches were really with Cena and ADR. And the quality of those matches had more to with the other guys talent.
Wow what a bad start. If you don't think Punk matches with Bryan, Jericho, Henry, Ziggler, Cena, ADR, ADR/Miz, Rock (which both RR/EC were good) and his other Raw matches are good/great then it's just your delusions playing with your brain. Punk was consistent in his in ring work that's what matter.


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Oh please, those part timers still got the majority of the cheers. Punk marks are some of the most deluded revisionists ever, I swear.
Do I have to show you the videos?! You see I'm not surprised since people like you always tend to exaggerate since those guys are from the past. So no matter what you will still ignore the reaction no matter how loud it is.
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Oh please, those part timers still got the majority of the cheers. Punk marks are some of the most deluded revisionists ever, I swear.
2 posts in and i think i can put you in the Punk hater category

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Old 11-15-2013, 09:02 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Wow what a bad start. If you don't think Punk matches with Bryan, Jericho, Henry, Ziggler, Cena, ADR, ADR/Miz, Rock (which both RR/EC were good) and his other Raw matches are good/great then it's just your delusions playing with your brain. Punk was consistent in his in ring work that's what matter.




Do I have to show you the videos?! You see I'm not surprised since people like you always tend to exaggerate since those guys are from the past. So no matter what you will still ignore the reaction no matter how loud it is.
Did you get the "still got the majority of the cheers" part? Just because Punk's never got laid fanbase were louder doesn't mean they were many. They were only 25% during the Rock matches and 40% during The Undertaker match. In fact, the loudest pops of those matches were still when Rock and Taker got the pins.
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Wow what a bad start. If you don't think Punk matches with Bryan, Jericho, Henry, Ziggler, Cena, ADR, ADR/Miz, Rock (which both RR/EC were good) and his other Raw matches are good/great then it's just your delusions playing with your brain. Punk was consistent in his in ring work that's what matter.
Like I said Punk marks being their delusional selves again.

Other than Cena and ADR, those matches mediocre at best who's quality was over inflated. Never seen a series of matches where there were so many sloppy executions and botches that was considered "great". Kane's matches in his prime were more entertaining.

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