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Re: Why do people crap on CM Punk's title reign?

Because it was shit and mediocre. And it hurt the business numbers wise and prestige of the title.
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Re: Why do people crap on CM Punk's title reign?

He should have been a mega star? Cena is not even a mega star and you expect Punk who didn't even have one half of Cena push to be a mega star . The truth is he was a shark in an aquarium full of fishes to be fed to. Punk did help some guys like when Bryan made Punk tape out and when Ziggler pinned Punk 3 times in Raw and also lost against Ryback in less than 30 seconds isn't that enough or should he job every time to help talents when it should be about him since it's his prime. The reign was supposed to help Punk status but since the roster is so thin there is no way those guys deserve to beat Punk in his first big push, they are no threat it's 100% WWE fault + they already killed his momentum when HHH and ADR pinned him for no fucking reason. You really think almost anyone will make that title look far better than Punk . Oh his ratings was bad yet Bryan is doing just as bad or even worst since he can't even bring buys. Nobody will bring buys that high with The Rock (excluding Cena) because not everybody care about the guy you like they tend to like Punk more that's why he's popular now and gets cheered no matter what. The people and Rock wanted Punk because of his talent and what he brings to the table not because WWE forced Punk in peoples throat when it's completely the opposite. Losing to every top guy doesn't make you a mega star get fucking real for once in your life.
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Re: Why do people crap on CM Punk's title reign?

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And yet he was the lowest drawing WWE champ since Diesel until Rock and Taker legitimized him. So good.

BTW you know Punk didn't conjure up anything, right? Rock wanted him to keep the belt so he could take it off a long term champ. If WWE had been calling the shots Punk would have traded the belt back and forth with Bryan in the summer of 2012. That was what creative wanted to do.

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He should have been a mega star? Cena is not even a mega star and you expect Punk who didn't even have one half of Cena push to be a mega star . The truth is he was a shark in an aquarium full of fishes to be fed to. Punk did help some guys like when Bryan made Punk tape out and when Ziggler pinned Punk 3 times in Raw and also lost against Ryback in less than 30 seconds isn't that enough or should he job every time to help talents when it should be about him since it's his prime. The reign was supposed to help Punk status but since the roster is so thin there is no way those guys deserve to beat Punk in his first big push, they are no threat it's 100% WWE fault + they already killed his momentum when HHH and ADR pinned him for no fucking reason. You really think almost anyone will make that title look far better than Punk . Oh his ratings was bad yet Bryan is doing just as bad or even worst since he can't even bring buys. Nobody will bring buys that high with The Rock because not everybody care about the guy you like they tend to like Punk more that's why he's popular now and gets cheered no matter what. The people and Rock wanted Punk because of his talent and what he brings to the table not because WWE forced Punk in peoples throat when it's completely the opposite. Losing to every top guy doesn't make you a mega star get fucking real for once in your life.
Cena is a mega star. He's the Hogan of this generation, sadly. And no Bryan is on par with Punk ratings wise currently. He's ahead of where Punk was in 2011 and last year, which is amazing since it's taken Punk 3 years worth of a push to get here and Bryan managed it in 3 months. There is no arguing this Brick. Facts are facts, no matter how much you want to deny them. Speaking of facts, shouldn't you be on some other message board about now bitching about how dinosaur bones are a colossal trick by Satan?


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How original and you completely prove my point. Well at least you aren't trying to re-invent what happened. You're a step ahead of Brick at the very least.

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Cena is a mega star. He's the Hogan of this generation, sadly. And no Bryan is on par with Punk ratings wise currently. He's ahead of where Punk was in 2011 and last year, which is amazing since it's taken Punk 3 years worth of a push to get here and Bryan managed it in 3 months. There is no arguing this Brick. Facts are facts, no matter how much you want to deny them. Speaking of facts, shouldn't you be on some other message board about now bitching about how dinosaur bones are a colossal trick by Satan?
Seriously all you do is nitpick what happened and ignore the fact the roster was thin compared to this year. Cena is no mega star even if he is it took him years of hard push to get there. How is Bryan ahead of Punk in terms of what? . Punk carried the show with Cena only being there. Imagine if HHH and the McMahons and the guys they are pushing now are not here to carry Bryan what do you think will happen since viewership is barley even higher than last year and the truth is last year still got higher viewers anyway so get your facts right. Not even one Bryan PPV buy is close to be as high as Punk ones when he MainEvented, get a clue. You really made no sense in your last sentence since you really never do.

You're the same guy who thought Bryan is the next Austin and that he will start a new era good luck with showing me your invisible facts. You don't even know what makes a wrestler a mega star. I would like to see which mega star that became one by losing against every top star . You probably think Bryan is already a mega star, I really don't know what to expect from you anymore. I bet Sandow (who I like) will become a mega star if he got Punks push.
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Seriously all you do is nitpick what happened and ignore the fact the roster was thin compared to this year. Cena is no mega star even if he is it took him years of hard push to get there. How is Bryan ahead of Punk in terms of what? . Punk carried the show with Cena only being there. Imagine if HHH and the McMahons and the guys they are pushing now are not here to carry Bryan what do you think will happen since viewership is barley even higher than last year and the truth is last year still got higher viewers anyway so get your facts right. Not even one Bryan PPV buy is close to be as high as Punk ones when he MainEvented, get a clue. You really made no sense in your last sentence since you really never do.
Please, name all the new people on the roster that weren't here last year? The Wyatt Fam and....I'll wait.

BTW Orton/Bryan at NOTC got more buys than HHH vs Punk did in 2011. Punk was feuding with HHH and still BOMBED. Facts. They're like kryptonite to a Punktard.

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You're the same guy who thought Bryan is the next Austin and that he will start a new era good luck with showing me your invisible facts. You don't even know what makes a wrestler a mega star. I would like to see which mega star that became one by losing against every top star . You probably think Bryan is already a mega star, I really don't know what to expect from you anymore. I bet Sandow (who I like) will become a mega star if he got Punks push.
No, I never said that. EVER. I didn't ever think Bryan would "surpass" Cena much less be the next SCSA....at the absolute best he could be a very close 2nd as injury slows Cena down. That's it. I thought Bryan would surpass Punk and that's it.Once again, reality bends you over and makes you it's bitch.

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Re: Why do people crap on CM Punk's title reign?

The first half of his reign as a face was pretty awful because he was boring, corny and unfunny trying to be funny with all the "funkmaster" type quotes. He lost his edgy side.
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Please, name all the new people on the roster that weren't here last year? The Wyatt Fam and....I'll wait.

BTW Orton/Bryan at NOTC got more buys than HHH vs Punk did in 2011. Punk was feuding with HHH and still BOMBED. Facts. They're like kryptonite to a Punktard.



No, I never said that. EVER. I didn't ever think Bryan would "surpass" Cena....at the absolute best he could be a very close 2nd as injury slows Cena down. That's it. I thought Bryan would surpass Punk and that's it.Once again, reality bends you over and makes you it's bitch.
The Wyatt Family, The Shield (since they debuted later in 2012), Big show (You can't really deny that he's getting a push of his life at this point), HHH, The McMahons, The Usos , Orton (back to the top not that it matters much), Bryan (A top guy now), The Rhodes, Sandow (since he matters way more than last year) and also more characters are evolving now than last year + the already made top guys like Punk and Cena. Isn't that enough lol.

Wow so you gonna compare one buy with Punk ones which are higher than any of his and higher than anything he will ever reach in his life. I give you the permission to have that one PPV buy which isn't even an impressive number since Bryan in that short time defeated almost everybody clean and the buys are still below 200k . I can't imagine how horrible the SS buys will even be if Brock/Punk didn't happen.

You may not said he will be the next Austin but you said he will bring back the glory days and get much higher ratings than Punk which it didn't even happen. Reality is more of a weapon since the reality is Punk is the bigger star than Bryan is and I think will ever be at this point.
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Re: Why do people crap on CM Punk's title reign?

To answer the OP, probably because people have different ideas of what a good title reign is.


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