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"The Hound" because Greg was a pussy and a coward. After losing to Loras, Knight of Flowers (lol), he just decides to kill his horse, blaming him for the loss, and tries to attack the man who beat him from behind. Little bitch!

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Well, to be fair, Loras DID cheat. And that's FAR from the worst thing Gregor's ever done. Have you read the books or are you just a show watcher? What he did during Robert's Rebellion was downright HEINOUS. I love his character, but I prefer The Hound too, there's more of a character there. I wouldn't call Gregor a pussy or a coward, though. Utterly without morals, obscenely violent and heartless, but not a coward. Which is understandable considering The Mountain of the books is about 8 feet tall. Wish they could've found a great actor who was near that height, but there's only a few people in the world that size.

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Well, to be fair, Loras DID cheat. And that's FAR from the worst thing Gregor's ever done. Have you read the books or are you just a show watcher? What he did during Robert's Rebellion was downright HEINOUS. I love his character, but I prefer The Hound too, there's more of a character there. I wouldn't call Gregor a pussy or a coward, though. Utterly without morals, obscenely violent and heartless, but not a coward. Which is understandable considering The Mountain of the books is about 8 feet tall. Wish they could've found a great actor who was near that height, but there's only a few people in the world that size.

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The wildfire explosion or the golden crown?
To be honest, I'm a completely newcomer to Game of Thrones. I just recently started and already finished watching the show. I never read the books, I'm not really a fan of books, especially really long ones, I think I just don't have the patience to commit myself to read a book, but considering how much fun I had watching the series and how much people praise the books, even more so than the show, I'm seriously considering buying them, or at least just the first one for now, in order to see if I can finally get into it.

So yeah, pardon me for some ignorance that I may display regarding certain topics of the saga. I'm sure the books go into much much more detail than the show regarding everything. That's one of the main reasons why I'm really considering buying them too.

EDIT: Shit, forgot the question. It's the wildfire explosion, it was just spectacular, epic, just like that whole episode, culminating with that superb song in the end called "The Rains of Castamere". I actually liked the character of Viserys, really appreciated how ambitious and determined he was, how he was ready to do literally everything to achieve his goals. I was really expecting much more from him, therefore I was really disappointed when I watched his demise.

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To be honest, I'm a completely newcomer to Game of Thrones. I just recently started and already finished watching the show. I never read the books, I'm not really a fan of books, especially really long ones, I think I just don't have the patience to commit myself to read a book, but considering how much fun I had watching the series and how much people praise the books, even more so than the show, I'm seriously considering buying them, or at least just the first one for now, in order to see if I can finally get into it.

So yeah, pardon me for some ignorance that I may display regarding certain topics of the saga. I'm sure the books go into much much more detail than the show regarding everything. That's one of the main reasons why I'm really considering buying them too.
No worries, I'm the same way, believe me. I don't enjoy reading, but I loved the series so much I promptly rushed out to get the books. I have all 5 books and am at the tail end of book 4, approaching book 5.

They are indeed MUCH more detailed. You cannot imagine the amount of characters, detail and volume of these books, they're monsters, but they're worth it.

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Well, if you like The Rains of Castamere, you'll hear it in episode 9, titled "The Rains of Castamere".

A Song Of Ice And Fire history lesson for you on The Rains Of Castamere. This is NOT a spoiler as everything I'm about to talk about takes place before the story opens.

House Reyne (ironic name, the Reynes of Castamere. See how clever George is? ~_~) was the second most powerful House in the Westerlands behind House Lannister. Their sigil was the same lion as House Lannister, only with reversed colors (hence the line "only a cat of a different coat"). The head of House Lannister, Tywin's father, Tytos was a weak man. So weak he almost brought House Lannister to ruin. Side note, he was nearly killed by, ironically enough, a lion, but the Clegane's, who were kennel masters for the Lannisters, saved him by bringing in dogs to chase the lion away, and were given land and titles by Tytos, which is why they have 3 dogs as their sigil. But anyways, back to the point, the Lord of Castamere, the head of House Reyne, figured that Tytos was too weak to stand against a rebellion, and he thought that he could rebel so that House Reyne could replace House Lannister as the principal House of the Westerlands and Wardens Of The West (hence the lines "and who are you, the proud Lord said, that I must bow so low?" and "in a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws, and mine are long and sharp my Lord, as long as sharp as yours" ). Tywin then took control of the Lannister armies and put House Reyne to the torch, burned Castamere to the ground and murdered all members of House Reyne, making their House extinct. Hence the lines "But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear. Yes, now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear."

The message of the song is don't cross the Lannisters, and particularly Tywin, because they're dangerous. It has become a favourite of Westerland soldiers to tribute their liege House.

Oh, and Viserys was awesome. Wish he got the throne instead of Joffrey. I know they're both shitheads, but Viserys was cool to me for some reason. Not long for the world of ASOIAF, though, too stupid, too impulsive to survive and unlike Joffrey, has no powerful people backing him up. But if he'd gotten the Throne then Dany's story would mean nothing. Oh well.

Samwell Tarly. I love Hodor from a pure comedic standpoint but when all you ever say is Hodor, it's one dimensional, which really is the point, but still, he only says one word.

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No worries, I'm the same way, believe me. I don't enjoy reading, but I loved the series so much I promptly rushed out to get the books. I have all 5 books and am at the tail end of book 4, approaching book 5.

They are indeed MUCH more detailed. You cannot imagine the amount of characters, detail and volume of these books, they're monsters, but they're worth it.
Yeah, I'm betting that I will not resist much longer and I'll buy them all in the not so distant future. The fact that I'm actually feeling the need to buy these books in the first place is already sufficient enough, because something like this never happens with me. I've never felt compelled to buy a book but now... just cannot resist much longer. lol. The only thing holding me back is just the fact that I'm not a fan of books with the will to spend so much time reading, but yeah, exceptions exist for a reason, and this is shaping up to be one of them.


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Thank you very much for the history lesson, really appreciated it. Since I absolutely loved the song when I first heard it, I immediately started searching for its meaning, so yeah, I was already aware of the history behind the song, but only in a basic generic level, without all of those details you included, so thanks for actually taking the time to write all of that. I assume it wasn't really a burden to you! And you just gave me another incentive to go buy dem books.


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Tywin or Cersei?
It's actually tough for me, because Cersei was a huge surprise, in a positive way, but I'm picking Tywin. When I first started watching the show, with absolutely zero knowledge regarding everything related to the series, I just thought Cersei would be one of those boring, submissive and completely devoid of any character individual, like all of the queens are most of the time. Boy, was I wrong! She's awesome, her ruthless, cruel and calculating persona was really a huge highlight for me, considering my expectations for the character at the time. But yeah, Tywin wins. The man just oozes confidence, authority, charisma and I just cannot forget his scenes with Arya, I absolutely loved those for some reason. One of the best parts of the show for me.

Theon Greyjoy or Robb Stark?

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Westeros or Essos? (the continent that Daenerys is on, I don't remember it being continuously mentioned by name in the show, maybe once or twice, so some might forget. Most Westerosi just know it as "across the Narrow Sea".)

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Yeah, I'm betting that I will not resist much longer and I'll buy them all in the not so distant future. The fact that I'm actually feeling the need to buy these books in the first place is already sufficient enough, because something like this never happens with me. I've never felt compelled to buy a book but now... just cannot resist much longer. lol. The only thing holding me back is just the fact that I'm not a fan of books with the will to spend so much time reading, but yeah, exceptions exist for a reason, and this is shaping up to be one of them.
I know what you mean. Like I said, I hate reading, it just so happens that my obsession with A Song Of Ice And Fire outweighs my disdain for reading. I want to consume as much knowledge as I possibly can. Even with the amount I have, there's still a great deal I've forgotten or haven't researched. GRRM has managed to create a world that seemingly has no end to it.

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Thank you very much for the history lesson, really appreciated it. Since I absolutely loved the song when I first heard it, I immediately started searching for its meaning, so yeah, I was already aware of the history behind the song, but only in a basic generic level, without all of those details you included, so thanks for actually taking the time to write all of that. I assume it wasn't really a burden to you! And you just gave me another incentive to go buy dem books.
No worries, I'm happy to help. There was also another House involved in the rebellion, House Tarbeck, but House Reyne is the main house who the song emphasizes.

I wouldn't say it's a burden but it took a while to figure out exactly how I wanted to word everything. The main reason for my explanation of the song is because the most pivotal moment of the series is coming in episode 9 of this season, and The Rains Of Castamere is tied into that, so I'm giving you the full history of the song so you can tie in the meaning with what happens. That understanding will make the scene more powerful, not that it's going to need it.

By the way, don't read ANY Youtube comments on Game of Thrones related videos or spoilers until episode 9 is over, not knowing what's going to happen for just 8 more episodes is going to be worth it, I promise you.

Oh, and I completely agree that Tywin's scenes with Arya are amazing. Unfortunately, they don't exist in the book canon, Arya is actually cup bearing for Roose Bolton at Harrenhal in the books. One of the changes they've made, but a well recieved change.
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This one is much tougher than I expected it to be. I think Westeros almost wins by default, since it's the continent in which most of the action takes place, therefore it's the one we see more, the one we're exposed the most, so it'd be easier to say Westeros based on that. With this said, I'm actually realizing how much I love Essos, it has some beautiful and exotic places. Qarth alone almost makes me pick Essos. Still, at this point, I still have to say Westeros. Maybe not really fair, but for now, it is what it is. I might change my mind in the future.

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I've already ordered them. If I'm lucky, I can get them tonight.

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By the way, don't read ANY Youtube comments on Game of Thrones related videos or spoilers until episode 9 is over, not knowing what's going to happen for just 8 more episodes is going to be worth it, I promise you.
So I have to thank you again, because going by what you said, you just provided me with the necessary background info to understand and experience that episode even more. I think this is the second time I heard about this famous Episode 9, and that other person who talked about it got it spoiled for himself, so yeah, I'm going to continue to be really careful with this, because spoilers can be found everywhere. Even this thread can become a potential risk. And episode 9 will only air on June 2. 2 damn months. If I manage to reach that date spoiler free, I'll be a happy panda.

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So I have to thank you again, because going by what you said, you just provided me with the necessary background info to understand and experience that episode even more. I think this is the second time I heard about this famous Episode 9, and that other person who talked about it got it spoiled for himself, so yeah, I'm going to continue to be really careful with this, because spoilers can be found everywhere. Even this thread can become a potential risk. And episode 9 will only air on June 2. 2 damn months. If I manage to reach that date spoiler free, I'll be a happy panda.
Yeah, hopefully you get there spoiler free. The scene I'm sure will be great anyway, though, but going in spoiler free will just make it that much better.

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Ser Jorah Mormont of Bear Island. Jory did almost nothing. Plus Iain Glen is absolutely riveting as Jorah. I can't believe they cut out the scene where Jorah explains his backstory with his wife, that was excellent in Clash. He would've KILLED it.

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