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**The Lady Killer** · 01-28-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SpookshowTony

Immediately started laughing. How are you going to do it?

Need to do research on highly irritable posters in that section, and then just go for the jugular.

edit ABYSS

**Shepard** · 01-28-2013, 06:17 PM

tboneangle or something @ BANKSY? hes funny but he at least respects people not liking kurt so ill give him that

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Originally Posted by WOOLCOCK

Last time I saw an Angle topic people were using his olympic gold medal as proof of his credentials. People can't seem to understand no-one is critiquing Angle as a legit 'wrestler', but more showing proof he came into the business untrained and unfamiliar to how to build, structure and time a match, how to throw worked punches/kicks that looked good but which were safe, how to work matches depending on time and card position etc. Bothers me that people try to make out him starting out in the business is no different than an MMA fighter adjusting to wrestling. Sure they could work a technical wrestling gimmick, but they'd still have to be told how to sell enough to look vulnerable without sacrificing their tough image as well as how to time and space out their holds and submissions to draw a reaction.

'Worker' and 'wrestler' are two different terms and its this which proves a stumbling block for most.

I also hate how when it comes to Angle 95% of the time if you make a well reasoned post it still gets laughed at. Disagree with my opinion all you want, but when I explicitly post critiques I have, either counter them or accept the things that bother me don't bother you. Ehhh, seeing Ownage make the best post in the 'Bryan is the most overrated' thread about the things he did better than Angle and have some moron call it a load of shit when it was reasonable and subjective was asinine.

Kentonbomb was the worst with that. Legit told me a few times that I didn't understand pro wrestling because I don't like Kurt and that I should respect that he goes out and makes every match a seem like a wrestlemania one. Tried to compare Angle/Hardy to Taker/Michaels in terms of being finisher fests.

Some guy tried to tell me Kurt got a good match out of Matt Morgan too. I laughed.

SpookshowTony · 01-28-2013, 06:19 PM

Kill Lady Killer! Kill!

(@Woolcock)
5 star with Abyss? Yikes. He's a good beast, but he fits more of getting destroyed bump wise and dishing out carnage.

Edit: Should probably stay out of TNA talk.

**The Lady Killer** · 01-28-2013, 06:21 PM

Does ABYSS~! still wrestle? If so, does he still use the Mankind rip-off gimmick complete w/thumbtack spots?

**WOOLCOCK** · 01-28-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shepard

tboneangle or something @ BANKSY? hes funny but he at least respects people not liking kurt so ill give him that

Kentonbomb was the worst with that. Legit told me a few times that I didn't understand pro wrestling because I don't like Kurt and that I should respect that he goes out and makes every match a seem like a wrestlemania one. Tried to compare Angle/Hardy to Taker/Michaels in terms of being finisher fests.

Some guy tried to tell me Kurt got a good match out of Matt Morgan too. I laughed.

yeah in that guy's defence I do recall him being much cooler and respectful in discussing Angle. People need to realise I'm not so much tired of Angle discussion because it isn't interesting, but more because the actual Angle fans who will listen and respond reasonably is so light in comparison to the dense tyrants who will attack you and laugh you off and render the discussion awful and stunted.

abv was the worst for that (TNA A-Lister but no longer around), remember when I lurked in 2010 and saw reviews for Hardy/Angle No Surrender he was going on about how Hardy breaking Angle's ribs added to the legitimacy of the matc they were working. Yes he was seriously being apologetic of Hardy being clumsy with a dangerous spot as actually adding to the match. Yeeeessh.

Also remember Rock316AE having a meltdown sometime late 2011 or early 2012 when Angle talk got brought up in the DVD thread. Don't think he posts anymore there now aside from when DVD releases get merged into the thread.

edit: TLK Abyss now wrestles as Joe Park. An attorney training to be a wrestler. He's Abyss's brother and debuted searching for Abyss and his whereabouts after he vanished during a fight with Bully Ray. Somehow played one of the best babyfaces and characters in wrestling and had a great match with Bully built around subtle touches demonstrating he was untrained (such as holding a steel chair the incorrect way). He slips back into Abyss mode when he spills blood before 'snapping out' of it. I hope they don't make it a schizo character and have him return to Abyss, because Joe Park is a talented and a very good worker. Abyss is dogshit who takes ridiculous bumps and whores his matches out with spots and weapons that they lose all meaning.

**Shepard** · 01-28-2013, 06:22 PM

Nah Abyss is now a super badass Lawyer who's actually one of the best things about TNA today. Totally serious with that too. Has the BEST facial expressions and great matches

SpookshowTony · 01-28-2013, 06:22 PM

Isn't he that Parker guy? Forgive me, I haven't seen TNA since last Jan/Feb.

Edit: Damn my slow typing skills.

**The Lady Killer** · 01-28-2013, 06:23 PM

WTF

How does that happen? Might need to check this out ASAP.

Better not be trolling me, Shep

**BANKSY** · 01-28-2013, 06:24 PM

Yeah I think thats his name. The tattoo looks like something you see in the Daily Star or Sun , normally its a massive Roy Hodgson face and not a Kurt Angle one.

**Shepard** · 01-28-2013, 06:26 PM

I'm not, Joseph Park is a brilliant man. Most over babyface they have arguably too. Had a super match with Bully Ray at slammiversary last year and with Devon at genesis